This thread started off on Italians now it is all Southern Europeans. Rarog you are off the planet. Please stop your offsider with a similar name posting photographs of very ugly Russians who look mongoloid mixed to me. Try using Poles they are genuine Europeans.
Homogeneity and distinctiveness of Polish paternal lineages revealed by Y chromosome microsatellite haplotype analysis
Rafal Ploski et al. (2002)
It is noteworthy that all but one of the comparisons
between the six Polish populations and the Russians
revealed statistically non-significant differences (0.05<
P>0.001). These genetic similarities are most probably a
result of the common Slavic origin. On the other hand,
small genetic distances between all of the Polish–German
population pairs were statistically significant (P<0.0001),
which might reflect the different background of Slavic speaking
and German-speaking populations. The significant
differences revealed between Polish and German
samples are especially striking, since the two populations
have had close contact during the last millennium and
both have inhabited the territory of present-day Poland.
This demonstrates a continuous lack of admixture between
Germans and Poles, most probably for social, religious
and cultural reasons. Genetic difference between
Germans and Poles have been reported previously, based
on a 1-bp deletion at the Y-chromosomal marker M17
(haplotype Eu19; Semino et al. 2000), which has a high
frequency in Poles (56%) but a much lower frequency in
Germans (6%)...
Estonians appear somewhat distant from the Latvians.
On the other hand,
highly significant differences (P<0.0001) were revealed
between the Estonians and all other geographic neighbours,
including the Russians, all Polish groups and also
the Lithuanians, a result that is in agreement with linguistic
evidence.
Polymorphism of STR Loci of the Y Chromosome
in Three Populations of Eastern Slavs
from Belarus, Russia, and Ukraine
Kravchenko et al. (2002)
The material of the study was DNA obtained from
peripheral blood leukocytes of 152 males randomly
selected from rural populations of Russia (Russians
from the Novgorod oblast and the southern coast of
Lake Ilmen, n = 50) and Belarus (Belarussians from the
Pinsk raion of the Brest oblast and the western Poles’e,
n = 38 and the population of the city of Kiev (Ukrainians,
n = 64; blood samples were obtained from a blood
transfusion station). The ethnicity was identified by
interviewing; only those males whose ancestors had not
contracted interethnic marriages and lived in the same
region for two generations were included into the study.
Related persons were also excluded from analysis
based on the results of interviewing.
We did not find statistically significant differences
between the Russian and Belarussian populations (P =0.17) in
the frequencies of allelic variants of all loci.
Mitochondrial DNA variability in Poles and Russians
Malyarchuk et al. (2002)
Mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) sequence variation was examined in Poles (from the Pomerania-Kujawy region; n = 436) and Russians (from three different regions of the European part of Russia; n = 201)...
An analysis of the distribution of the control region haplotypes did not reveal any specific combinations of unique mtDNA haplotypes and their subclusters that clearly distinguish both Poles and Russians from the neighbouring European populations. The only exception is a novel subcluster U4a within subhaplogroup U4, defined by a diagnostic mutation at nucleotide position 310 in HVS II. This subcluster was found in common predominantly between Poles and Russians (at a frequency of 2.3% and 2.0%, respectively) and may therefore have a central-eastern European origin.
[Finns (of all kinds) and Germans have very low %% of this cluster - 0-0.1% - Rarog]
Differentiation and Genetic Position of Slavs
among Eurasian Ethnic Groups as Inferred from Variation
in Mitochondrial DNA
B. A. Malyarchuk (2001)
Population H V HV* J T U K I W X N
West Slavs 43.14 3.53 1.18 11.86 11.07 14.62 3.53 3.14 2.35 1.57 1.57
East Slavs 43.48 2.37 1.19 7.11 11.86 15.42 3.56 1.98 1.98 0.79 0.79
Volga–Ural 36.90 5.36 0 10.71 12.50 10.12 2.98 2.38 0 0 0.60
Baltic 44.33 5.32 0 3.90 5.32 21.99 2.84 2.13 5.67 0.71 0.71
Ukrainians* 41.7 5.6 0 8.3 8.3 16.7 8.3 0 2.8 2.8 N/A
* B. A. Malyarchuk et al (2002), Mitochondrial DNA Polymorphism in Populations of the Caspian Region and Southeastern Europe
East Slavs - Russians, West Slavs - Poles and Czechs, Slovaks, Volga-Ural group - Mordva, Maris, Chuvash, Baltic - Finns, Estonians, Karelians
Genetical distance from Russians to:
West Slavs - 0.958
Volga Finns and Turks - 65.83
Baltic Finns - 50.14