SOUTHERN ITALIANS DO HAVE ARAB BLOOD

[Morenita2g]

I was reading the website and I am so confused to why the author considers arabs white lol. That to me is a joke. Saddam hussien,Bin laden and Khadafi are not WHITE MEN!!! Civilization was starting in Africa and the Mid East so how does that make Arabs white?

And another thing a lot of Southern Italians do have Arabic in there bloodline.My boyfriend is from the south of Italy and his city Bari is an arabic name.It is one of the 99 names of allah and it means"of allah". Also he will admit that italians have arabic in them.Look at the features,the eyebrows,the hair texture,the noses.A lot of the food from sicily comes from the Arabs. Also the names .For instance AL(LIKE AL PACHINO,AL CAPONE).Al is arabic for the. There are also places in sicily (marsala) that come from the word mashallah which is arabic praising god.So the author of this site really needs to stop being so EUROCENTRIC AND FACE THE REAL FACTS!!!

[herrx]

LOL.
Bari sounds like an ordinary italian name... What's your source about it's arabic origin?
I have a friend whose parents are from Bari and he and his brother look even nordish.
The first civilization was Sumeria, in Asia, and they were caucasians, like the Egyptians, in North Africa.

[Praetor]

Now what sort of thread is this? Al comes from Alfredo for crying out loud

[Morenita2g]

Not every single southern italian has arabic in there bloodline.Some(few) are blond haired,blue eyed but a lot have arabic in them.More that what this website says.Here is the proof about BARI,AL and Marsala and its Arabic backround.

Name: Bari
Origin: Arabic
Meaning: Of Allah
Gender: M
Names - Search More Names
Here is the site i found it on.
www.find-baby-names.com/Bari.html

Most of the names beginning with AL,AR,CALA,GUAD,and MEDINA ARE CORRUPTED FORMS OF ARABIC NAMES GIVEN TO RIVERS,mountains and other natural resources.AL is also based off of the first word in the Arabic alphabet ALIF!!!

Next Marsala sicily.
... Marsala can be found on the west coast of Sicily where the Saltworks and calm reserves are. Its. name, of arabic origin ... Marsala rich of evidence in the ...
www.delfinobeach.com/territorio_eng.html - 9k

Need i say more. No.Take a look at the Tuttorro brothers!!!

[Graeme]

There are no such thing as an Arab; it is a language group, not racial. Bin Laden is of Yemeni origin i.e South Arabian not North Arabian in origin, and from an area in close intercourse with East Africa viz Somalia and Ethiopia. South Arabians are of mixed race. Khaddafi is a Berber, a North African - nothing to do with where the Arabic language originated - North Arabia. Saddam Hussein, who knows, I guess Turkish, Kurdish and Armenian cross. The three "Arabs" are more different from each other than any Europids are from each other.

By the way the "Arabs" that conquered Sicily, Southern Italy and Malta were Tunisian Berbers, converts to Islam and not original native speakers of Arabic. Go to Malta today where a corrupted Tunisian Arabic mixed with Italian is spoken. You will not find anyone there looking like your three examples of "Arabs". Your boyfriend is probably repeating what other Americans have said to him and he accepts it. There are Middle Easterners who do look like Europids especially in the parts formerly controlled by Europeans eg Lebanon and Syria. The fact that most Middle Easterners do not look like Europeans and can be easily picked out of a crowd of Europeans does not make them Negroes or mixed race eg Mulattoes or Zamboes.

I have seen your photograph and you look mixed race, in fact a Zambo. You won't find anyone who looks like you in Sicily, Southern Italy, Greece, Turkey or Spain.

[Melnorme]

Photos of people from Malta :

www.shiftedphase.com/~dino/edward/gallery.php

They are white, although most of them would not look out of place in the Middle East.

[Artemidoros]

According to your source the names

Boadicea Bodiccea Bodicea

are Anglo-Saxon. Anglo-Saxons in Britain in Roman times? Just one example. This is not a serious site:
www.find-baby-names.com/Anglo-Saxon.html

Read this one instead:

The Columbia Encyclopedia, Sixth Edition. 2001.

Bari


(bä´r) (KEY) , city (1991 pop. 342,309), capital of Bari prov. and of Apulia, S Italy, on the Adriatic Sea. It is a major seaport and an industrial and commercial center. It is connected by road, rail, and ship to other Adriatic ports and is now connected by road to Naples. Manufactures include chemicals, machinery, textiles, printed materials, and petroleum. Probably of Illyrian origin, Bari became a Greek and then a Roman colony. It later was controlled by the Goths, the Lombards, and the Byzantines. The Normans conquered Bari in 1071. The city became the chief city of Apulia, and many Crusaders sailed from there. Enfeoffed to the kingdom of Naples, Bari, during the Middle Ages, was a duchy ruled by powerful lords, including the Hohenstaufens and the Sforzas of Milan. It was badly damaged in World War II. Noteworthy buildings include the Romanesque basilica (1087–1197), a major place of pilgrimage, with relics of St. Nicholas of Bari (see Nicholas, Saint); the Romanesque cathedral (12th cent.); and the Hohenstaufen castle (1233). The city has a university founded in 1924.

www.bartleby.com/65/ba/Bari.html

Of course if you want you can believe your boyfriend and not care about what anybody says. I would be grateful though if you could inform us what Al Capone's Christian name was. Surely he was not called The Capone.

[herrx]

Both "Alfredo" and "Alfonso"(capone's real first name) are germanic names.

[ProdigalSon]

Southern Italians may not have 'Arab blood' per se, but they do have some of the highest levels of Neolithic Middle Eastern ancestry in Europe.

Now I am ready to be crucified

[Razmig]

So this must make the world Arab for using Algebra, and Greek for using Geometry? This is one of the most idiotic posts in the world...there IS NO WHITE RACE!

[Artemidoros]

ProdigalSon said:

Southern Italians may not have 'Arab blood' per se, but they do have some of the highest levels of Neolithic Middle Eastern ancestry in Europe.

Now I am ready to be crucified

Yes, that is the penalty for using the tautology Neolithic Middle Eastern

[Scoob]

News flash: someone can have "Arab blood" and be blond and blue-eyed. Someone can have Negro blood and be blond and blue-eyed.

Southern Italy and Sicily was ruled by Muslims until the Normans conquered it.

There is a cultural and genetic continuity throughout the nations surrounding the Mediterranean - regardless of religion. There are also small traces of African blood - often from extremely ancient times. There are also small traces of African blood in other parts of Europe - much of it before the last glaciation. Europeans in general cluster closer to Africans than Asians (or even Melanesians, for that matter). Looks aren't everything.

Deal with it.

[Artemidoros]

Scoob said:

News flash: someone can have "Arab blood" and be blond and blue-eyed. Someone can have Negro blood and be blond and blue-eyed.

Southern Italy and Sicily was ruled by Muslims until the Normans conquered it.

There is a cultural and genetic continuity throughout the nations surrounding the Mediterranean - regardless of religion. There are also small traces of African blood - often from extremely ancient times. There are also small traces of African blood in other parts of Europe - much of it before the last glaciation. Europeans in general cluster closer to Africans than Asians (or even Melanesians, for that matter). Looks aren't everything.

Deal with it.

If by African you mean sub-Saharan then you are wrong. The most ancient division between races is that of Africans with everyone else. Neither can minute traces of sub-Saharan ancestry in Europeans make them cluster with Africans.

[galvez]

Scoob said:

News flash: someone can have "Arab blood" and be blond and blue-eyed. Someone can have Negro blood and be blond and blue-eyed.

This is correct. Some of my relatives are Nordic or purely UP (like my sister and uncle), even though we may have a tiny amount of Chinese in our lineage. Heck, my eyes are green but that doesn't mean I don't have a very small amount of admixture.

People need to get it out of their heads that phenotype indicates purity. It is a very crude way to measure purity.

[Agrippa]

Morenita2g said:

I was reading the website and I am so confused to why the author considers arabs white lol. That to me is a joke. Saddam hussien,Bin laden and Khadafi are not WHITE MEN!!! Civilization was starting in Africa and the Mid East so how does that make Arabs white?

Arabs were mainly Orientalid and Mediterranid which are Europid (Caucasoid) subraces.

All the people you mentioned are no European Europids, and probably they have slight Negrid admixture, but they are all predominantely Europid.

Egyptians were also predominantely of the Mediterranid and partly of the Berberid type which are again Europid (Caucasoid) subraces.


For the Italians. Well, for sure they have some North African and probably Semitic genflow, but just in the South and not too strong.

The invaders were of course mainly descendents of Berbers and Arabs = non European Europids (Berberid, Orientalid, Mediterranids of North Africa, some Armenids) but almost no subsaharan Negrid influence.

So the Southern Italians are probably not European like Germans, but they are white, they are Europids and even predominantely European Europids.

Al Pacino is just a normal Westmediterranid type f.e.

He has nothing non-Europid.