Post by Dean on Feb 24, 2004 21:51:11 GMT -5
The real fun will begin when AncestryByDNA develops the ABD 3.0 test. This test, which is advertised as being able to detect intracontinental genetic differences--i.e. Japanese vs. Chinese--is currently under development.
ancestrybydna.com/faqs.asp
Question #7.
I called DNAPrint genomics, Inc., the company that makes the tests, today to inquire about when the 3.0 test will be available, and a rep told me six months to a year minimum.
This test, if it's worth anything, should be able to detect differences between or similarities of Spaniards, Italians, Greeks and Middle Easterners. It should be able to detect clusters of peoples, even if peoples are genetically relatively distant.
As far as place names, they may not relate to genes. Northeastern Illinois has abundant Amerindian place names: Chicago, Kankakee, Waukegan--even state names like Wisconsin and Michigan--but few people with overwhelminly Amerindian genes from this area live here. In Greece, there were Turkish/Ottoman place names, and Greeks I know continue calling some towns by their Turkish names. But Greeks slaughtered Turkish civilians for all intents and purposes to a man in some areas during the onset of their war of independence in the 1820s. My ancestors certainly participated in this slaughter. My mother's maiden surname is Alimisis, which means Ali-hater or possibly Allah-hater. My father told me that his ancestors ran around with revolutionaries like Theodoros Kolokotronis and John Dagres--my father sang me a song that praises Dagres. He said that one of his forefathers was blinded in one eye by a whip-wielding Turk, and that he got his revenge with other Greeks by telling some Turks that they could find women in a particular town, digging a hole in the road that leads to the town, hiding in the hole and covering up themselves, and when the Turks passed, stabbing the horses' bellies and killing the Turks.
Was race important to the rebels in Italy, Greece and Spain, or was religion more important? Did people care about whether one was an Arab or an Italian or Spaniard, or did it matter more if one was a Christian or Moslem? Did being Greek necessarily mean one was a Christian? If it did, how is it that indigenous Anatolians, who so outnumbered Turks, became Islamized when Greeks in continental Greece were not?
Last but not least, genetic evidence clearly indicates that Middle Eastern genes in south Mediterraneans are overwhelmingly from the northern Fertile Crescent and not from Arabia, as can be seen via proportions of Y DNA branches of haplogroup J.
P.S. I broke down and bought the ABD 2.5, which is the upgrade from 2.0. 175 autosomal markers are analyzed with this test, as opposed to 71 markers with the 2.0 test. I got my swabbing kit in the mail today--two cheek-swabbing brushes, two envelopes and a consent form.
ancestrybydna.com/faqs.asp
Question #7.
I called DNAPrint genomics, Inc., the company that makes the tests, today to inquire about when the 3.0 test will be available, and a rep told me six months to a year minimum.
This test, if it's worth anything, should be able to detect differences between or similarities of Spaniards, Italians, Greeks and Middle Easterners. It should be able to detect clusters of peoples, even if peoples are genetically relatively distant.
As far as place names, they may not relate to genes. Northeastern Illinois has abundant Amerindian place names: Chicago, Kankakee, Waukegan--even state names like Wisconsin and Michigan--but few people with overwhelminly Amerindian genes from this area live here. In Greece, there were Turkish/Ottoman place names, and Greeks I know continue calling some towns by their Turkish names. But Greeks slaughtered Turkish civilians for all intents and purposes to a man in some areas during the onset of their war of independence in the 1820s. My ancestors certainly participated in this slaughter. My mother's maiden surname is Alimisis, which means Ali-hater or possibly Allah-hater. My father told me that his ancestors ran around with revolutionaries like Theodoros Kolokotronis and John Dagres--my father sang me a song that praises Dagres. He said that one of his forefathers was blinded in one eye by a whip-wielding Turk, and that he got his revenge with other Greeks by telling some Turks that they could find women in a particular town, digging a hole in the road that leads to the town, hiding in the hole and covering up themselves, and when the Turks passed, stabbing the horses' bellies and killing the Turks.
Was race important to the rebels in Italy, Greece and Spain, or was religion more important? Did people care about whether one was an Arab or an Italian or Spaniard, or did it matter more if one was a Christian or Moslem? Did being Greek necessarily mean one was a Christian? If it did, how is it that indigenous Anatolians, who so outnumbered Turks, became Islamized when Greeks in continental Greece were not?
Last but not least, genetic evidence clearly indicates that Middle Eastern genes in south Mediterraneans are overwhelmingly from the northern Fertile Crescent and not from Arabia, as can be seen via proportions of Y DNA branches of haplogroup J.
P.S. I broke down and bought the ABD 2.5, which is the upgrade from 2.0. 175 autosomal markers are analyzed with this test, as opposed to 71 markers with the 2.0 test. I got my swabbing kit in the mail today--two cheek-swabbing brushes, two envelopes and a consent form.