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Post by alex221166 on Jul 15, 2004 19:03:28 GMT -5
Lol, does anyone actually say that?  That was what I was saying - they had a terrible time during their repressed adolescence, and now they are compensating. The problem is that they end up shocking most people (even though no one will admit to it because ti is un-PC). "Some of you"? Not everyone in here is extreme-right. Dodona isn't Stormfront. |
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Post by nobody you know on Jul 15, 2004 19:07:18 GMT -5
Well, according to most statistics 10% of the world's population is gay, so you aren't completely "on your own". . Hey, you're right. I never said I was. I just don't like people making such a big deal of something that I hardly think about myself unless some vile homophobe forces me into the position that I have to defend myself. My friends do not care about my sexuality and when I have girlfriends it is just something natural for us. I have been physically attacked for holding hands with my (at the time) girlfriend. by people we didn't even know. I cannot stand all these apologists for homophobia. I am sorry if I upset anyone but I relaly do have strong feelings on this topic since it is veryt close to home for me. If you want to see a pic of me, by the way, I can send one. I am not butch and do not like the butch look. |
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Post by nobody you know on Jul 15, 2004 19:10:14 GMT -5
Lol, does anyone actually say that? That was what I was saying - they had a terrible time during their repressed adolescence, and now they are compensating. The problem is that they end up shocking most people (even though no one will admit to it because ti is un-PC). "Some of you"? Not everyone in here is extreme-right. Dodona isn't Stormfront. I know, but a lot of people do seem to have had experiences with these groups. Course this place aint stormfront or a nazi place, but this is sometihng a lot of people here seem to know quite a bit about .. In answer t your question, yes they do, unfortunately.  Now that you'e clarafied your position (about camp people)I understsand and no, I am not offended that you are saying that. |
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Post by eufrenio on Jul 15, 2004 19:16:44 GMT -5
Whatever. I've heard more than I can stand from homophobes and their whining. Depraved community? Don't make me laugh. Many of the lesbians and gay people I know are religious and agree with conservitive values. And those that are not are decent people who only want to live their lives. I am definitely more conservitive than my parents in my views, and I do not agree that people should go around shagging everything in sight. But it is not only gay people who do this, many of the homophobes who gave me such a hard time would go out and sleep with whatever pimply public-schoolboy was free that night. The same people who did this would torment anyone who happened to be a "queer". They weren't fussy about being "depraved". Most lesbians and gays I know show restraint in their sexual activities although with all groups there are exceptions. Alright, let´s take a look at homosexual activity: Homosexual men: Homosexual Activities (in %) US16 US13 US US18 Denmark20 US19 London27 Sydney/London26 Canada25 1940s1977 83/84 1983 1984 1983 1985 1991 ever ever ever in yr in yr in mo in mo last 6mo oral/penile 83 99 100/99 99 86 67 anal/penile 68 91 93/98 95 92 95 100 oral/anal 59 83 92/92 63 69 89 55/65 urine sex 10 23 29/ fisting/toys 22 41/47 34 fecal sex-eating 4 8 enemas 11 11 torture sex 22 37 37 public/orgy sex 61 76 88 sex with minors 37 23 24/ "RECTAL SEX Surveys indicate that about 90% of gays have engaged in rectal intercourse, and about two-thirds do it regularly. In a 6-month long study of daily sexual diaries, gays averaged 110 sex partners and 68 rectal encounters a year." "FECAL SEX About 80% of gays (see Table) admit to licking and/or inserting their tongues into the anus of partners and thus ingesting medically significant amounts of feces. Those who eat or wallow in it are probably at even greater risk. In the diary study, 70% of the gays had engaged in this activity--half regularly over 6 months. Result? --the "annual incidence of hepatitis A in...homosexual men was 22 percent, whereas no heterosexual men acquired hepatitis A." In 1992,it was noted that the proportion of London gays engaging in oral/anal sex had not declined since 1984." " Death and disease accompany promiscuous and unsanitary sexual activity. 70% to 78%x, of gays reported having had a sexually transmitted disease. The proportion with intestinal parasites (worms, flukes, amoeba) ranged from 25% to 39% to 59%.As of 1992, 83% of U.S. AIDS in whites had occurred in gays. The Seattle sexual diary study reported that gays had, on a yearly average: 1) fellated 108 men and swallowed semen from 48; 2) exchanged saliva with 96; 3) experienced 68 penile penetrations of the anus; and 4) ingested fecal material from 19. No wonder 10% came down with hepatitis B and 7% contracted hepatitis A during the 6-month study www.familyresearchinst.org/FRI_EduPamphlet3.htmlLesbians: "Only 20% of lesbians had relationships that involved cohabitation for more than 3 years. Also, this study found that only 23% of lesbians reported positive relationships with their mothers as compared with 85% of heterosexual women and 70% of lesbians were "tomboys" as children. Source: M. T. Saghir and E. Robins, " Male and female Homosexuality; A Comprehensive Investigation," ( Baltimore: Williams Wilkins, 1973), p.57, table 4:14.p. 226, table 12.11. " "Lesbians are 19 times more likely than heterosexual women to have syphilis, twice as likely to suffer from genital warts and 4 times as likely to have scabies. Source: P. Cameron, K. Proctor, and W. Coburn, " Sexual Orientation and Sexually transmitted Disease," Nebraska Medical Journal, Vol. 70 No. 8, August 1985, pp. 292-299. " "In one study, 15% of lesbians engaged in torture for sexual fun (sadomasochism) that included "piercing, cutting or whipping to the point of bleeding" with their lovers. Source: Lemp et al, "HIV seroprevalence and risk behavior among lesbians," American Journal of Public Health, 1995; vol. 85: pp1549-1552. " www.lesbianstudies.com/lesbianlifestyle/These are not "exceptions". Gays are more promiscous by any standard. |
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Post by alex221166 on Jul 15, 2004 19:17:09 GMT -5
Well, I was just being polite but actually some of the most promiscuous behaviour I have witnessed came from British women. I also saw how some of the parents dress their 12 year old daughters like prostitutes and take them to the pubs - I shit you not! I saw this in the Algarve a few years ago.
That is really decadent...
Exactly! I saw 12 year old girls with more lipstick than Madonna, made me nautious... Now tell me: what do her parents expect? I am not an advocate of the Muslim "cover them from head-to-toe" policy, but hey, use some brains....
Well, I come from a more traditional country, but it is also very tolerant. Most people will just mind their own business. And yes, you are correct: as long as people live their lives with dignity, they should be above criticism - particularly criticism from hooligans.
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Post by It-Alien on Jul 15, 2004 19:26:17 GMT -5
I've also watched it on Discovery, very interesting documentary!
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Post by alex221166 on Jul 15, 2004 19:26:37 GMT -5
I have been physically attacked for holding hands with my (at the time) girlfriend. by people we didn't even know. I cannot stand all these apologists for homophobia. I am sorry if I upset anyone but I relaly do have strong feelings on this topic since it is veryt close to home for me. If you want to see a pic of me, by the way, I can send one. I am not butch and do not like the butch look. Having been assaulted is simply intolerable. That probably happened in a small town, I can't understand that something like that could have happened in a city. You don't have to apologise, because you didn't say anything worthy of reprimend. If anything, some of "us" should. If you want to send your picture, you may send it to alex221166@yahoo.com even though I really don't think you need to prove anything to anyone. Not all lesbians look like Helen Degeneres (unfortunately, the ones that look like Anne Heche are also a minority  ). |
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Post by alex221166 on Jul 15, 2004 19:29:11 GMT -5
Now that you'e clarafied your position (about camp people)I understsand and no, I am not offended that you are saying that. Good . |
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Post by eufrenio on Jul 16, 2004 8:30:50 GMT -5
It is only homophobes which make it "non-enjoyable". Now that I have got some different friends who are not homophobic I don't have to constantly apologise for my sexuality. I can just forget about it and be myself. And why does everything have something to do with sicence. Science doesn't explain everything you know. Dislike of homosexual behaviour is probably genetic, hard-wired. It´s only natural when you think that it reduces the reproductive fitness of a population. For a society to stand a better chance at survival, homosexual behaviour cannot be "celebrated". Furthermore, my above post proves that homosexuals (men and women) are more promiscous than heterosexuals, and engage regularly in unhealthy sexual practices. It seems to me that homosexuals today strive for far more than tolerance and acceptance, they ask for respect and even applause, which they will never achieve. |
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Post by nobody you know on Jul 16, 2004 15:30:15 GMT -5
Dislike of homosexual behaviour is probably genetic, hard-wired. It´s only natural when you think that it reduces the reproductive fitness of a population. For a society to stand a better chance at survival, homosexual behaviour cannot be "celebrated". Furthermore, my above post proves that homosexuals (men and women) are more promiscous than heterosexuals, and engage regularly in unhealthy sexual practices. It seems to me that homosexuals today strive for far more than tolerance and acceptance, they ask for respect and even applause, which they will never achieve. The "Family Research Institute" is a Christian Fundamentalist organisation. Hardly a reputable scientific institution or a biased source. I know there is promiscuity. But what you are doing is labelling all of us, when I have already said that I beleive this behaviour is totally unacceptable. Yes, small towns, eh?  By the way, earlier this year I was walking down the street, dressed in a plain shirt and trousers, and a man started to try to touch me inappropriately and get me to kiss him. Now this man was obviously not gay and I have never had this sort of behaviour off gay women or heard of it happening to my male friends. Also I have been flashed when I was out walking with my friend, by a man, who was again, obviously straight. My friend had a flasher by her school who was attempting to grab young girls on their way in. Now have you ever heard of a woman doing such a thing? You don't have to respect me, Eufrenio. But don't expect me to change just because you want to impose your ideas on everyone else's consciousness |
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Post by eufrenio on Jul 16, 2004 17:17:18 GMT -5
The "Family Research Institute" is a Christian Fundamentalist organisation. Hardly a reputable scientific institution or a biased source. I know there is promiscuity. But what you are doing is labelling all of us, when I have already said that I beleive this behaviour is totally unacceptable. (...) You don't have to respect me, Eufrenio. But don't expect me to change just because you want to impose your ideas on everyone else's consciousness I know that the web-sites I linked to are biased. But if you read both articles carefully you´ll see that they quote scientific papers. In this PC age, it is increasingly difficult to find mainstream intellectuals actually speaking about facts. I did not label all homosexuals as promiscuous, I just said that they are overwhelmingly more so than heterosexuals. You just admitted it yourself. I don´t want to change your mind or anybody else´s mind. I only want honest public discussion about the facts of homosexuality, which is probably asking too much in these PC, leftist and confused times. What we don´t need is more pro-homosexual brain-washing and social-engineering. |
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Post by DVXspqrNOBIS on Jul 23, 2004 19:16:17 GMT -5
As the AIDS statisic rises and raging homosexuals wanting to get married. I do not think it is right for them to belong in the US. Reason being is that it will hurt the future youth of America. People are brought up so they can have kids(naturally), Gays waste space and they are not needed in a multicultural society as bad as it is. People are disturbed by homosexual antics and the more they fight, the more a nation is polluted with immorality. I am not religious, but I believe there is natural moralities in life. Again,in the US, the opposition only cares about oneself, not the living world around them. Personally, I think they should move to third world countries and teach the diseased Africa to use contraceptives. Immigration would decrease by far. Quite rhetorical, but it would be ideal. ;D
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Post by alex221166 on Jul 24, 2004 6:34:09 GMT -5
As the AIDS statisic rises and raging homosexuals wanting to get married. I do not think it is right for them to belong in the US. Reason being is that it will hurt the future youth of America. People are brought up so they can have kids(naturally), Gays waste space and they are not needed in a multicultural society as bad as it is. People are disturbed by homosexual antics and the more they fight, the more a nation is polluted with immorality. I am not religious, but I believe there is natural moralities in life. Again,in the US, the opposition only cares about oneself, not the living world around them. Personally, I think they should move to third world countries and teach the diseased Africa to use contraceptives. Immigration would decrease by far. Quite rhetorical, but it would be ideal. ;D Contraceptives... Now why didn't your parents thought of that one? |
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Post by One Humanity on Aug 22, 2004 17:34:03 GMT -5
A little deviation from the main point... Last week I had to do with homosexual hotel-employees who defrauded my family and me of the rooms we had booked. The hotel (it's the region of Southern France where one can see the canyons and rocks...) was complete when we arrived, although we had paid for the reservation before. We proposed the hotel to be quite like the others before, but behind the signs, it was a gomorrah ! Waterfalls oozing out of pipes all around, a sealed up disco nearby. The hotel personell I saw consisted of: 1 small "styled" guy with a golden necklace and ringlets. T-Shirt: "Brazil". 1 guy, same stature, with rests of makeup on a single eye and a completely hairless head, caressing the other. 1 arab. 1 fetishist and/or communist ("hasta la vista siempre" t-shirt). And of course they all were French. We got the money back but no room. The over-polite guy telephoned a dozen of hotels for us, but everything was completely full. So we had to search for another hotel from evening to night. Kilometers away a hotel had some, last rooms for us. The next day my pedantic, dragon-like g aunt forced us to revisit the gay people and to extort a free breakfast from them, when we came along their hotel again. The styled guy fell on his knees when my aunt stroke out. We got the breakfast. I really stared into my drink for some moments - what if they spit into it? But I knew I had to drink it, my g aunt is very severe, she schooled me since I was an infant. When we left, the arab grinned at me f*cking wickedly  (my own expression was frozen). I hopefully think it was harmless. |
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Post by alex221166 on Aug 22, 2004 18:36:37 GMT -5
I really stared into my drink for some moments - what if they spit into it? But I knew I had to drink it, my g aunt is very severe, she schooled me since I was an infant. When we left, the arab grinned at me f*cking wickedly (my own expression was frozen). I hopefully think it was harmless. Spit would be the least of my concerns. Here is an advice that will serve you for life: whenever in a restaurant, NEVER but NEVER send the food back if you intend to eat at that same restaurant. NEVER. The chef takes offense and you will be VERY LUCKY if he doesn't mess with what you are about to eat. And let me repeat: spit is the least of your concerns. |
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(my own expression was frozen). I hopefully think it was harmless.