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Post by phrost on Sept 28, 2005 18:38:09 GMT -5
It seems alot of Jews look more closely to Eastern Europeans than with Western Europeans.
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Post by CooCooCachoo on Sept 28, 2005 22:45:35 GMT -5
Would you know Sigmund Freud was Jewish if he didn't tell you?
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Post by Mike the Jedi on Sept 28, 2005 22:55:38 GMT -5
I have a friend who's Jewish grandfather survived WWII Germany by posing as a Christian. The last thing I need to do is watch is another Holocaust movie to understand what happened. I wonder what kind of sick brainwashing the Nazis undertook to convince themselves that Hitler's Germany was a Christian institution.
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Post by CooCooCachoo on Sept 28, 2005 22:59:27 GMT -5
I have a friend who's Jewish grandfather survived WWII Germany by posing as a Christian. The last thing I need to do is watch is another Holocaust movie to understand what happened. Not really. Besides, someone who was 1/2, 1/4 or 1/8 Jewish probably wasn't or didn't identify as a Jew, anyway. A lot of Holocaust survivors did look German, though. There was a study done not too long ago which basically showed that Jewish-looking Jews were the first to be harrassed, shipped off to the Ghettos and concentration camps and eventually exterminated. Whereas Jews who survived the Shoah had high rates of hair and eye blondism. There are always exceptions. The truth is, though, that most Jews would have trouble passing for German. As the product of German and Jewish parents, I would know. What about Steven Soderberg. He has to wear those "Yid glasses" to remind everyone he's Jewish. He'd pass. Guy has no lips. What about Comedian Ken Ober Lauren Bacall
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Post by Mike the Jedi on Sept 28, 2005 23:06:52 GMT -5
^ This guy looks like the Penguin.
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Post by CooCooCachoo on Sept 28, 2005 23:16:15 GMT -5
More Jews who might pass for German... William Shatner Alicia Silverstone Debra Winger Shirley Temple Mitch Gaylord Goldie Hawn Ellen Barkin
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Post by Mike the Jedi on Sept 28, 2005 23:18:43 GMT -5
lol... William Shatner is Jewish? That's news to me.
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Post by Yankel on Sept 28, 2005 23:20:32 GMT -5
I think Soderberg has a Jew-nose. The rest of them could pass as Europeans any day of the week. On the end of the spectrum, we have conspicuous Yids like Adam Goldberg, David Schwimmer, Jon Stewart, and even Woody Allen. And this guy. And here is an old, fuzzy picture of my German and Yiddishe self.
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Post by CooCooCachoo on Sept 28, 2005 23:21:40 GMT -5
Don't forget Israeli born Natalie Portman
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Post by Yankel on Sept 28, 2005 23:24:54 GMT -5
lol... William Shatner is Jewish? That's news to me. I was pretty surprised, too. He just released an album with Ben Folds, who is also Jewish.
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Post by CooCooCachoo on Sept 28, 2005 23:26:53 GMT -5
You could pass. Think of how well you could pass if people were trying to kill you. Lighter brown hairdye, and the right haircut, and you could march with the Waffen SS. What people forget is how often Germans intermarried with Jews. A very high rate. ...I think that's why there was such tension. You had two cultures in contention for property, wealth, and even women.
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Post by Mike the Jedi on Sept 28, 2005 23:27:58 GMT -5
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Post by Yankel on Sept 28, 2005 23:28:48 GMT -5
Natalie Portman is a Polish Jew, though. They're the most mixed Ashkenazim. Then again, Weisenthal was pretty Jewish-looking.
Anyway, I heard her mother is a convert.
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Post by Mike the Jedi on Sept 28, 2005 23:29:01 GMT -5
Don't forget Israeli born Natalie Portman She's Polish Ashkenazi and not indigenous Israeli, right?
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Post by CooCooCachoo on Sept 28, 2005 23:29:49 GMT -5
Ben Folds... Beck ...You don't have to be the perfect Aryan ideal to pass. Just close enough to instill doubt.
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