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Post by k5125 on Aug 30, 2005 12:02:43 GMT -5
Do you think the Japanese want to appeal to american audiences? The only problem with this theory is that it would alienate their own native populations who make the larger portion of their market.
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Post by Mike the Jedi on Aug 30, 2005 12:15:49 GMT -5
I wouldn't define anime characters as "white" so much as I would "freakish abominations of nature."
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Post by k5125 on Aug 30, 2005 12:20:13 GMT -5
I wouldn't define anime characters as "white" so much as I would "freakish abominations of nature." hahahah ;D, yeah, I can agree with you, although it depends on the show. Sure Trigun and especially Dragonball...but Ghost in the Shell, stuff like that is pretty realistic looking.
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Post by Curious6 on Aug 30, 2005 14:11:36 GMT -5
Dragonball is wicked. What would Piccolo be classified as?
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Post by CooCooCachoo on Aug 31, 2005 1:22:22 GMT -5
East Asians find fair skin desirable as a sexual trait. Many of them are fair, and they regard themselves as inherantly White.
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Post by Vlad on Aug 31, 2005 8:07:06 GMT -5
East Asians find fair skin desirable as a sexual trait. Many of them are fair, and they regard themselves as inherantly White. Of course. Surely northeast asians (japanese, Korean Chinese), think so. I'm sure they prefer mix themselves with whites than with any other race, and they see blacks like a legacy (well at least in general terms). I know that today, chinese families don't want absolutely coloured people amongst them. I saw many anime in my youth this is an example of what is the favourite subject of japanese estethic taste.................
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Post by MC anunnaki on Aug 31, 2005 9:12:51 GMT -5
Nordic, Keltic Nordic, Atlanto-Med? Does anyone know how the average East Asian view Middle Easterners? Are we coloureds, whites or something different altogether?
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Post by tictactoe on Aug 31, 2005 10:14:12 GMT -5
East Asians find fair skin desirable as a sexual trait. Many of them are fair, and they regard themselves as inherantly White. for many Japanese this is definitely true. Note that Anime basically is a Japanese issue.
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Post by Vlad on Aug 31, 2005 10:40:57 GMT -5
Nordic, Keltic Nordic, Atlanto-Med? Does anyone know how the average East Asian view Middle Easterners? Are we coloureds, whites or something different altogether? Yes, types you cite are japanese favourites caucasian subracial types Like i've alrerady said i've read japanese comic books and anime all my life, therefore i know very well what they like or not. Skin colour is very important : all heroes are fair skinned, while all villains are dark skinned (at least darker than the hero). Japanese anime authors don't respect the political correctness of the western world (to be sincere i love this fact. i hate political correctness; sure, japanese comics could be offensive, but i find they are more sincere than the major part of the western comics. They say what they think without inibitions) About your question, Anunnaki, they associate middle eastern with the more "dark" Arab element (not with your more particular iran-persian world). They don't think too much to the middle-east, anyway. But i note a subtle fear of the arabian world (perhaps recent historical-political facts).
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Post by MC anunnaki on Aug 31, 2005 12:22:54 GMT -5
Perhaps they lack knowledge about the different ethnic groups in the ME? Sort of like Americans who seem to think Middle Easterners are race of themselves. Anyway, if we swarthoids can't be respected, we want to be feared! ;D
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Post by gelaye on Aug 31, 2005 15:45:33 GMT -5
manga/anime characters dont actually look white if you look at them. ok, so they may have light hair and very large eyes (but the eyes seem to be more japanese in a certain way then caucasian eyes - they aren't deep set into the skull and they are quite wide set - like mongoloid), the round faces, tiny nose and mouth are distinctly japanese, not caucasian (there have been some manga however with characters with more prominent noses, doliocelaphicy *however you spell it* and large mouths with more visible lips)
I believe anime characters look neither white or japanese, but if you had to decide between the two i would say japanese.
also the whole east asians wanting to class themselves as white etc, what do you think they would be like if it was Africa that was the developed world and europe that was in turmoil and needed aid and assistance from countries like Africa and Southern India - would they want to associate more with darker skin and would that be more fashionable? If it had been an African superpower that occupied japan after the 2nd world war? LOL
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Post by Melnorme on Aug 31, 2005 17:06:38 GMT -5
It looks like the person who drew Perry didn't quite know how to draw a Caucasoid.
I wonder how medieval Europeans would have drawn East Asians...
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Post by Melnorme on Aug 31, 2005 17:38:02 GMT -5
Medieval Eskimo drawings? Heh, do they call them 'Skraelings'? I shall Google on this...
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Post by zemelmete on Aug 31, 2005 17:43:58 GMT -5
Thanks human2. It was very informative.
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Post by Agrippa on Aug 31, 2005 19:50:14 GMT -5
I agree that the TYPICAL MANGA style is a mixture - in fact the only important feature which is really not Mongolid are the big, wide and open eyes. Otherwise things vary, but long legs could be added too. But to call them Caucasoid would go to far, they are just too artificial and with their paedomorphism and certain features they even have elements of extreme Mongoloid character.
However, it seems they took Mongolid elements and stripped it from everything which is overspecialised to the extreme cold (short legs, small female breasts etc., something males usually dont prefer). Wide eyes are common in Mongolids too anyway, just less common and they come in another form (f.e. almond eye). Whats extreme is the infantile character, the child like features - just highly artificial but not typically Caucasoid. Interestingly in more high quality mangas with realistic art the racial types are more clearly distinguishable and they show the racial character, both Mongoloid and Caucasoid, mostly both in every movie, better.
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