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Post by Crimson Guard on Aug 31, 2005 20:43:43 GMT -5
They look like Japanese with contacts and dye jobs.
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Post by MC anunnaki on Sept 1, 2005 1:36:11 GMT -5
I think they look more like Eurasians with contacts and dye jobs.
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Post by Mike the Jedi on Sept 1, 2005 1:55:37 GMT -5
Are these the eskimo drawings you're talking about, human2? They're from 1577, so I guess you could call them late medieval.
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Post by aeon on Sept 1, 2005 2:41:41 GMT -5
also the whole east asians wanting to class themselves as white etc, what do you think they would be like if it was Africa that was the developed world and europe that was in turmoil and needed aid and assistance from countries like Africa and Southern India - would they want to associate more with darker skin and would that be more fashionable? If it had been an African superpower that occupied japan after the 2nd world war? LOL When the Arab Caliphate was the world's superpower, and Europe lay in ruins, the Northern European racial type was the most sought-after type in the Arab world. Another good example is the popularity of the Germanic racial type in the Roman Empire. Remember the Semitic African Caracalla's blond wig, etc.
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Post by MC anunnaki on Sept 1, 2005 4:12:23 GMT -5
People want what is rare. If the entire world had been white-skinned, blonde and blue-eyed and a minority had blue skin, green hair and black eyes, then these would probably be as coveted as Nordic phenotype is today.
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Post by Mike the Jedi on Sept 1, 2005 4:17:52 GMT -5
Exactly, blondism is attractive to some people because it is an exotic, recessive, fragile trait that is easily bred out.
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Post by nockwasright on Sept 1, 2005 4:31:14 GMT -5
also the whole east asians wanting to class themselves as white etc, what do you think they would be like if it was Africa that was the developed world and europe that was in turmoil and needed aid and assistance from countries like Africa and Southern India - would they want to associate more with darker skin and would that be more fashionable? If it had been an African superpower that occupied japan after the 2nd world war? LOL When the Arab Caliphate was the world's superpower, and Europe lay in ruins, the Northern European racial type was the most sought-after type in the Arab world. Another good example is the popularity of the Germanic racial type in the Roman Empire. Remember the Semitic African Caracalla's blond wig, etc. In women and only in women. Women are fairer than men in any race - subrace; children also are fairer than aduldts. Stands to reason being fair is a paedomorphic femminine trait. I don't think there was ever a time and a place where fair hair were sought after in men. As for Anime, as Agrippa already pointed out, for me too their main feature is being paedomorphic. They are aimed at a public of teens and preteens, thus their teenager look (even if the characters are adults) helps the identification. This explains the round eyes, the very fair skin and the small noses. Racially to me the males look more on the caucasoid side (norwegian sexually ambiguous teenagers) females more on the Asian.
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Post by Q. Valerius Priscus on Sept 1, 2005 4:40:50 GMT -5
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Post by nockwasright on Sept 1, 2005 5:04:51 GMT -5
Who the hell is this Taylor?
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Post by aeon on Sept 1, 2005 5:31:52 GMT -5
In women and only in women. Women are fairer than men in any race - subrace; children also are fairer than aduldts. Stands to reason being fair is a paedomorphic femminine trait. I don't think there was ever a time and a place where fair hair were sought after in men. Caracalla was a man. He surrounded himself with blond Teutonic bodyguards and emulated them wearing a blond wig. And, well, in the Arab Caliphate blond boys were sought after as much as blonde girls.
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Post by MC anunnaki on Sept 1, 2005 5:35:33 GMT -5
Do you mean Ottomans or Arabs? I know Vikings sailed as far as Istanbul, but further than that?
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Post by aeon on Sept 1, 2005 5:36:31 GMT -5
People want what is rare. If the entire world had been white-skinned, blonde and blue-eyed and a minority had blue skin, green hair and black eyes, then these would probably be as coveted as Nordic phenotype is today. In this event, white Europeans would since long have been rushing to marry black Africans. But this is not the case.
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Post by nockwasright on Sept 1, 2005 5:38:46 GMT -5
In women and only in women. Women are fairer than men in any race - subrace; children also are fairer than aduldts. Stands to reason being fair is a paedomorphic femminine trait. I don't think there was ever a time and a place where fair hair were sought after in men. Caracalla was a man. He surrounded himself with blond Teutonic bodyguards and emulated them wearing a blond wig. And, well, in the Arab Caliphate blond boys were sought after as much as blonde girls. Sorry, I explained myself badly. Of course I know Caracalla was a man, he was a Roman Emperor, women couldn't hold that office . He was also notoriously a nutcase and I don't think his eccentricties can be held as rule for anything. Are you sure blondes boys weren't sought after by gay Arabs (as opposed to women)?
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Post by aeon on Sept 1, 2005 5:41:00 GMT -5
Do you mean Ottomans or Arabs? I know Vikings sailed as far as Istanbul, but further than that? Well, there was no Istanbul in the Viking age, back then it was still called Constantinople. I mean Arabs who had a florishing trade in North European sakaliba, mostly for army and harems.
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Post by aeon on Sept 1, 2005 5:44:59 GMT -5
Sorry, I explained myself badly. Of course I know Caracalla was a man, he was a Roman Emperor, women couldn't hold that office . He was also notoriously a nutcase and I don't think his eccentricties can be held as rule for anything. Are you sure blondes boys weren't sought after by gay Arabs (as opposed to women)? I am not sure Arab women were as free as to have their own male harems. Of course blond boys were sought after by gay Arabs who were possibly more numerous than straight ones.
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