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Post by vela on May 22, 2005 12:21:48 GMT -5
Wise advice for all! Thanks, h2.
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Post by Berter on May 22, 2005 12:30:53 GMT -5
Please, don't take this as a criticism. I'm writing you this post only because you're not an unreasonable, hopeless case like Berter. You have to ask yourself what exactly you are accomplishing and what you are doing. I already said that Ancient Egypt issues as well as the anthropological problems related to NWAs have been extensively debated in the past hence my desinteressement to back up my assertions to Erudite. Does that make me unreasonable!?. But since you guys are resonable, think about this : If the black race had -biological- capabilities to build civilisations then we would have to find traces of it in the the very interior of the nergores' homeland, not in its bordering regions, like in Egypt which was and still is a caucasian land.Edited Berter has been banned again. We will accept racists on this forum as this is free speach forum, but trolling will not be accepted. This post is simple flaming its not cogent to the topic at hand and is intended to no purpuse except to insult the black posters of this forum.
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Post by Ponto Hardbottle on May 22, 2005 12:33:41 GMT -5
And what was the conclusion of all those pages on E3b?
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Post by amksa on May 22, 2005 12:38:22 GMT -5
Edited to remove generealized ethnic insults and genereal trolling.
Amska this type of post will not be accepted it adds nothing to this debate.
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Post by amksa on May 22, 2005 12:39:14 GMT -5
And what was the conclusion of all those pages on E3b? people are racists, and don't love each others.
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Post by vela on May 22, 2005 12:39:17 GMT -5
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Post by Dodona Underground on May 22, 2005 12:42:26 GMT -5
no matter what the content of your posts, because people read you, not the words. If the content isn't important, then what's the point? I'm writing you this post only because you're not an unreasonable, hopeless case like Berter. I was surfing FTDNA and remembered that 22 page debate about E3b. All those hours and words spent on trying to change the mind of one person could be better spent on something else, or are you just going to debate with every person you come across in the world? That's a hopeless and endless task. I don't know, human. To me Bass and Berter seem more alike than different. Do you really think that if either of them were faced with a collosal, irrefutable refutation of everything they promote that either of them would back down and slink away? Can you cite an example of a Bass recantation? Please, don't take this as a criticism. Sure it is. But why not? Bass is a big boy. He shouldn't be exempt from opposition. To be honest, I think he likes it. In real life in the USA, white people walk on egg shells around black people because they're afraid of being sued. So Bass is probably just starved for some stimulating exchanges from people who don't think like he does. If a northern European dug around in anthro journals and such and found some bits that seemed to bolster a case that the pharoahs were nords, would you be so solicitous?
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Post by Berter on May 22, 2005 12:49:19 GMT -5
hey, Berber, you shouldn't post pics of this Arab wannabe Hicham Elguerrouj : this guy is shameless, he often dedicated his vistory to the arabs loosers of the illusional arab third world who aren't able to win something by their own in sport activities because of their weakeness. Hey Brother!. I used hisham's pic as an avatar because I believe he is predominantely berber, I do care less for his culture and beliefs, only blood counts to me. I hope you like my new avatar.
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Post by amksa on May 22, 2005 12:54:56 GMT -5
Hey Brother!. I used hisham's pic as an avatar because I believe he is predominantely berber, I do care less for his culture and beliefs, only blood counts to me. I hope you like my new avatar. Even his name, clumsily arabized, is Berber. yeah, you're right this guy is Berber, 100 %, he don't look enough dravidian/veddoïd to pass for a real Arab ! Hicham is Riffan, i guess.
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Post by nockwasright on May 22, 2005 12:57:27 GMT -5
people are racists, and don't love each others. hehe, this was brilliant. Completely off topic: are you an artist, Amska?
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Post by vela on May 22, 2005 12:57:55 GMT -5
... I don't know, human. To me Bass and Berter seem more alike than different. Do you really think that if either of them were faced with a collosal, irrefutable refutation of everything they promote that either of them would back down and slink away? Can you cite an example of a Bass recantation? Now, that's a sound argument! Why can we have a middle ground for everything? I would rather hope that he craves for a stimulating exchange from intellectual adversaries, and not that he feels like he deserves special treatment from non-American interlocutors. I have an idea what human2 will say!
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Post by topdog on May 22, 2005 13:41:10 GMT -5
Please, don't take this as a criticism. I'm writing you this post only because you're not an unreasonable, hopeless case like Berter. You have to ask yourself what exactly you are accomplishing and what you are doing. Will you really get anywhere with people who've made up their minds? Arguing with them only reinforces their position because you get them on the defensive. The yielding, unassuming, flexible nature of water eventually wears a mountain down, not the other way around. Arguing with people for pages on end, trying to prove they are wrong, only creates a negative atmosphere and only perpetuates the perception of the aggressive Afrocentrist, no matter what the content of your posts, because people read you, not the words. I was surfing FTDNA and remembered that 22 page debate about E3b. All those hours and words spent on trying to change the mind of one person could be better spent on something else, or are you just going to debate with every person you come across in the world? That's a hopeless and endless task. I think you've become so caught up that you have tunnel vision. A certain subject is all you want to discuss and a certain goal is all you are after, but that goal of showing someone, or proving them wrong, leads to a fruitless path. To let things go after a certain point and let people make up their own minds is lot more benefitial in the long run. I've actually provided a platform for you at my forum to discuss your points and because I actually want to learn, but you've shown no interest and would rather argue with people who've already made up their minds and prove them wrong. Sure my forum isn't that busy, but to have a place not associated with an Afrocentrist site in some people's minds, and to have someone other than an African American sign up on your ideas, is lot more productive at the end than arguing with people who've already made up their minds. Most Asians just think that Egypt was Caucasian. If you can educate me on some fatcs about Egypt (which I confess I know little), it will go a long way than arguing with Alexanderian, because the next time I see some remark at say, China History Forum, I can correct them. The point is, you have to reevaluate your priorities and let go. All of your posts are basically arguments with Alexanderian. Even if you convince him, which I doubt, what have you accomplished? I agree with you actually, this thing is giving me brain cramps. I do have a wealth of information to post on your forum, so I'll make the smooth transition there. Good post. It's time to give it a rest.
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Post by Dodona Underground on May 22, 2005 14:32:30 GMT -5
Charlie can be gotten through because I have gotten through to him before I'm not doubting you, but could you at least direct me to the thread where this happened? I'd like to see this with my own two eyes. It's time to give it a rest. Let's see if the people who believed "I'm gone" also believe this. ;D
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Post by Berter on May 22, 2005 15:22:34 GMT -5
Actually, you and GreatCaesar missed my point. Charlie can be gotten through because I have gotten through to him before, whereas I'm not even wasting my time on Berter because he can't be gotten through. All he can say is "nigger slave". I'm not being more "solicitious" or rating Charlie as higher, but the difference is sharp, like deciding on who you want to talk to, a man or a chimp. Vela!?.
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Post by Wadaad on May 22, 2005 16:38:05 GMT -5
Charlie, a smart man once asked me this question...what's more important, putting internet rejects in check while compremising your education, or taking care of your business and setting yourself (and your family) up for a good future? As a God fearing Christian maybe you will identify with this passage from the Quran: "As for the disbelievers, it is the same to them whether thou warn them or do not warn them; they will not believe" (2:6) I think all of us have exhausted our viewpoints on a couple of matters we disagree on dodona. Your opinions are there to be read, by anyone who wishes to, and a scholar with an objective mind will be his own personal judge as to what he considers fact, what is opinion and what is ad-hominem . I am making a pledge to not talk about things I have already in the past, I believe we should all make this pledge and have some variety in our interests, lets go for a change.
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