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Post by Dodona Underground on May 25, 2005 1:29:52 GMT -5
GreatCaesar, I can't help but get the feeling that you think you are above it all and so wise.. Those who think they know, do not know. "Those who know don't think they know." ---from the Dao De Jing, the Book of the Way.. ;D Amen, brother! Hallelujah! Can I get a witness?! Now it's your turn. You believe that you can be Professor Henry Higgins to Charlie Bass' Eliza Doolittle. Well, about that, the first thing that you must do is to forget everything you think you know and start all over. Only then can you hope to achieve enlightenment. @ceasarghost: thanks a lot, we need to create a libertarian club here lol My libertarian view of civilization is straightforward. If I am to die, to live naked in the forest, to starve, to be ignorant or to live in a cage, then I want it to be my choice. Civilization brings me closer to being able to choose.
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Post by Minstrel on May 25, 2005 2:00:24 GMT -5
The only 'criteria' people are using is race[ie, anything is better than black]. No one is comparing Chinese to Europe, but Europe and Asia are lumped together when being compared to sub-Saharan Africans, thats the real issue here, I'm not dumb. To some people thats the only criteria thats needed. LOL, its seems the new pastimes amongst board-haters is to make pots shots on blacks and say mean stuff. The whole paradigm now is everybody vs. blacks, but then again, these people have no real influence in real life, they're just enacting their opinions on the net in an otherwise hostile climate to such ideas. But lets be serious erudite, they are not even worth a pass or getting mad at, after all, what are they likely to be? How should I put it..............nerds? Not jockish, successful types thats for sure............. But then again, people think they can be internet tough guys, lol "e-thugs", so they can get away with saying mean stuff about people, and using "divide and conquer" type psychology, and as always, blacks are the most targeted........... sad but true.......
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Post by topdog on May 25, 2005 2:12:13 GMT -5
LOL, its seems the new pastimes amongst board-haters is to make pots shots on blacks and say mean stuff. The whole paradigm now is everybody vs. blacks, but then again, these people have no real influence in real life, they're just enacting their opinions on the net in an otherwise hostile climate to such ideas. But lets be serious erudite, they are not even worth a pass or getting mad at, after all, what are they likely to be? How should I put it..............nerds? Not jockish, successful types thats for sure............. But then again, people think they can be internet tough guys, lol "e-thugs", so they can get away with saying mean stuff about people, and using "divide and conquer" type psychology, and as always, blacks are the most targeted........... The logic is anything in the world is superior to blacks. Why are people saying 'do you really think that anything in sub-Saharan Africa compares to anything in Europe, China, and Indian'? Europe, China and India are all different from each other, butb all can be lumped together in comparison to SSA. Clearly the theme here is blacks don't compare to whites, Indians and Mongoloids. I thought about poisting nonstop to prove this wrong, but why should I? Its time for people to educate themselves, I'm not going to be a racial spokesman so to speak. People can go to libraries and buy books or even scan the internet to learn something. Theres isn't any excuse for that kind of ignorance.
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Post by Minstrel on May 25, 2005 2:12:37 GMT -5
Lol, this site is stormfront lite dude, with the exception of a few level-headed folks lol (mike, faelcind, human) But its still interesting to hear what bigots like berter has to say.....entertaining. I know its just his bigoted opionion so it does'nt bother me much.......
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Post by topdog on May 25, 2005 2:18:15 GMT -5
Lol, this site is stormfront lite dude, with the exception of a level-headed folks lol (mike, faelcind, human) But its still interesting to hear what bigots like berter has to say.....entertaining. I know its just his bigoted opionion so it does'nt bother me much....... I can't believe eufrenio had the audacity to say thats allowed. Sub-Saharans aren't an under-developed subspecies strata, I can't believe he's basically inviting Berter to troll. If he's started that thread he will get no response from me, he'd be arguing to himself. There are no facts to post to give that argument and kind of validity.
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Post by Minstrel on May 25, 2005 3:04:52 GMT -5
alot of mods allow and appease bigots here, all these little hitlers . he'd probably make a post completely based upon conjecture and "logic" because the internet is "full of shit" lol.
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Post by topdog on May 25, 2005 3:09:16 GMT -5
alot of mods allow and appease bigots here, all these little hitlers . he'd probably make a post completely based upon conjecture and "logic" because the internet is "full of shit" lol. True. I mean what logical unbiased *FACTS* could Berter present that will ever prove that point? There aren't any. Sometimes I get the impression that some of these mods actually support these bigots covertly, thats why I keep repeating that people should take a more upfront approach in this forum.
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Post by Melnorme on May 25, 2005 3:18:53 GMT -5
Sometimes I get the impression that some of these mods actually support these bigots covertly You just love slinging mud at the owners of forums you post on, don't you? It's not just annoying, it's stupid. What do you gain by 'playing the rebel' all the time? Yes, we 'support the bigots'. That's why we've banned Berter 3 times.
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Post by topdog on May 25, 2005 3:39:36 GMT -5
You just love slinging mud at the owners of forums you post on, don't you? It's not just annoying, it's stupid. What do you gain by 'playing the rebel' all the time? Yes, we 'support the bigots'. That's why we've banned Berter 3 times. Melnorme my question is this, is that topic eufrenio suggested Berter start even really worth discussing? And if Berter was banned three times why is he allowed to come back and spam the same nonsense? If I were to someone here a dago, wog, sand nigger, spic or any of the like, whats the likelihood that I would be able to keep coming back?
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Post by nockwasright on May 25, 2005 3:53:02 GMT -5
The logic is anything in the world is superior to blacks. Why are people saying 'do you really think that anything in sub-Saharan Africa compares to anything in Europe, China, and Indian'. No, no and no. Who said that? Actually I said that glories of past/present civilisations are non relevant to the theme of race, as civilisations rise and fall in a span of time much shorter than the one required for having substantial genetic change in the populations involved. And the theme of race is absolutely non relevant about what we are as individuals. I bet can build a pyramid as well as you and Alexandrian here. So there is no reason for such heat and emotional attachment to long gone things. Actually under the criteria I proposed the African American culture would be considered one of the most prominent in the world now (and as a matter of fact i think it is), so they are not "anti black" criteria. Then, we compare all kinds of civilisations, there are Eastern European posters who have been banned for flaming about who was best between Hungary and Romania ... comparing and choosing things is inevitable, and a hundred quotes from the Dao De Jing won't change that. human2: you'r correct (and sharp) actually I already know and dislike the Dao. I would love to discuss about it but in a dedicated thread (please open it). Here I just say that everytime you do something you make a choice. You pronounced that phrase, you chosed it. If you don't know, if it is as good as any other conceivable phrase in the world, you would not have chosen it. You would stay silent all the time as conversation would be meaningless. When you use sewers you choose sewers. I'll like to have a talk about this, as I think you are 2human to really believe the Dao
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Post by Circe on May 25, 2005 4:02:55 GMT -5
For example, I find true Arab and Plains Indian culture to be more appealing than Serbian culture. "No matter how great, things little known are seldom appreciated" - Circe You are not factoring Circe's posts here. ;D
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Post by topdog on May 25, 2005 4:08:47 GMT -5
I see you couldn't answer my question Melnorme, whats taking so long?
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Post by eufrenio on May 25, 2005 4:41:45 GMT -5
What the heck, do you really think thats a debateable topic? . Please read the forum rules: anything is debatable as long as it is relevant to HBD and it is done in scholarly form and good manners. I was giving Berter a chance not to be banned, as he ultimately was. Please do! As I said, anything is debatable. Try your luck at Stormfront, Charlie. You´ll find we are more accomodating.
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Post by topdog on May 25, 2005 4:53:42 GMT -5
Please read the forum rules: anything is debatable as long as it is relevant to HBD and it is done in scholarly form and good manners. That particular topic is debated exclusively on by racists and trolls. If it were one of those debateable topics like with E3b maybe, but giving a known racist a chance to debate this is nothing more than giving that person a soapbox to promote those views. Its illy to debate that topic, why should I? That was a rhetorical statement I made.
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Post by nockwasright on May 25, 2005 13:03:38 GMT -5
How can you see if logic is flawed if you have to use logic to contemplate logic? It's like an embryo trying to figure out if his mom is ugly or beautiful from the inside of the womb. Just because I use logic doesn't mean that absolutely believe it's perfect. I have no choice but to use it. Ok, if you don't think it usefult to talk about it ... this will be my last bait .. then I give up . The part above reminded me of Socrates, who, when asked by a disciple "And what if somebody refuses to accept logic?" answered "We do not speak with them". Logic is what we have in common. Without it there is no communication at all. While in this board, while you are talking to me or anyone else, logic is the one and only way. Nobody can prove logic is universally and absolutly good. Nobody can prove anything is universally and absolutly good. But without logic you can not communicate with other humans. So it is all our world, is not something you can opt out.
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