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Post by asdf on Nov 24, 2005 15:05:17 GMT -5
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Crimson, Springa, Educate Me, me, Eufrenio we're all swarthoids with Latin/Southern European backgrounds, with not a much of an interest in the US.
None of us got irascible--saying "balloney" is not getting angry--and I don't believe any of us is unbalanced. Thanks yet again though. Go back to reading your conspiracy theories now.
How many Americans would even consider me or Springa white? Why again do you think we all think like typical Americans?
You again don't know what you're talking about. There's no slur to that. You've called us insane though.
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Post by Toasty on Nov 24, 2005 15:38:06 GMT -5
I'm always amused at the double-standard between North and South America. It's funny how posters jumped to yell and heckle and criticize the "white rates" I posted about Argentina and Chile. If, on the other hand, I had posted white rates about the United States, scarcely a single one of the nitpickers would have brought up how many white Americans have Indian ancestry, or mentioned Dr. Mark Shriver's study that says up to a third of all white Americans have some distant negro ancestry. The white doctor himself says that 22% of his genes are sub-Saharan. But Americans have a sort of amnesia. They won't discount the white status of whites in the United States, but they'll leap to discount the white status of phenotypically Caucasoid people in Argentina. What hypocrisy. (But, sadly, it was predictable.) * Seriously. Would a single one of these hecklers denied that Billy Bob Thornton was white or George W. Bush, or Val Kilmer? All these people have Indian ancestry. Jackie Kennedy has distant negro ancestry. --But when a white Argentine was mentioned, they leaped to tear away their Caucasoid status--even though ironically the white Argentine would statistically have far less admixture.As soon as I read you post, I knew it would dissected piece by piece, even though WE all know that the CIA facts are a bit off. Imagine if your post was regarding jews or something, it would have turned into a 13 page topic, guaranteed.
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Post by anodyne on Nov 24, 2005 15:47:28 GMT -5
A good portion of the Brazilian immigrants in the Ironbound section of Newark are from Minas Gerais, which used to be heavily Portugese...
See how I slide in with information that will distract everyone and keep fists from flying... yeah.. i'm good.....
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Post by ndrthl on Nov 24, 2005 15:53:55 GMT -5
The wife of the famous schizophrenic mathematician John Nash (a nobel prize winner), if I remember correctly, a white (or at least predominantly so), Alicia Lopez-Harrison de Lardé, is from Central America (El Salvador or Costa Rica?).
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Post by asdf on Nov 24, 2005 15:56:55 GMT -5
I always presumed Portuguese ancestry was like German or English ancestry here--everyone's got it, to varying degrees, but no one's particularly proud of it (NordicAryan characters aside).
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Post by ndrthl on Nov 24, 2005 15:59:19 GMT -5
A good portion of the Brazilian immigrants in the Ironbound section of Newark are from Minas Gerais, which used to be heavily Portugese... See how I slide in with information that will distract everyone and keep fists from flying... yeah.. i'm good..... The greatest Brazilian poet, Carlos Drummond de Andrade, was born in a small town in Minas Gerais: img470.imageshack.us/my.php?image=poet3ca.jpg
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Post by anodyne on Nov 24, 2005 16:04:25 GMT -5
Alicia Lopez-Harrison de Lardé is from El Salvador.. so says Wikipedia.. not the best place for info but i don't know how that would be easily screwed up. No doubt she's from the elite class.
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Post by tonynatuzzi on Nov 24, 2005 16:04:58 GMT -5
Hey Springa according to IBGE census on Sao Paulo its 71% White not 60% White like you said.
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Post by Miguel Antunes on Nov 24, 2005 16:14:49 GMT -5
Even most of those negroid like Brazilians from the Northeast have Portuguese blood in them..even if it doesn´t show that much...the same can be aplied to the mestizos...they all have Iberian Blood..whether it shows or not... And Drooperdoo made an excellent point... All those WN from the USA should stop and think about the fact that they have 5% of non-white blood before they acuse another person of not being white...like the Portuguese who have 2,5% of SSA admixture...or those swarthy Greeks with 1%....
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Post by tonynatuzzi on Nov 24, 2005 16:26:16 GMT -5
Speaking of the Nordeste I went to there I noticed that Fortaleza unlike Salvador doesen't have alot of pure unmixed African looking Blacks, the ones in Fortaleza were more mixed race looking so I didn't see alot of Wesley Snipes types in Fortaleza but I did see alot in Salvador though but even in Salvador I wouldn't say the majority looked like Nigerians I would say most looked like typical Mulattos that you see during Carnival but the pure looking types there were still way more significant than they are compared to Fortaleza where they resembled Caboclos/Pardos more probably because the Amerindian genes are stronger in Fortaleza than they are in Salvador.
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Post by asdf on Nov 24, 2005 16:32:55 GMT -5
True, but this isn't Stormfront--this forum was created partially as a response to Nordicism.
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Post by ndrthl on Nov 24, 2005 16:39:42 GMT -5
Even most of those negroid like Brazilians from the Northeast have Portuguese blood in them..even if it doesn´t show that much...the same can be aplied to the mestizos...they all have Iberian Blood..whether it shows or not... And Drooperdoo made an excellent point... All those WN from the USA should stop and think about the fact that they have 5% of non-white blood before they acuse another person of not being white...like the Portuguese who have 2,5% of SSA admixture...or those swarthy Greeks with 1%.... this famous brazilian writer, Paulo Coelho, is a 100% white european (he has taken the dna test when a research was performed, and his results were made public). his mother is from the amazon region (north of brazil!) and his father is from rio de janeiro. young: img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=paulocoelho2yo.jpgimg167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=paulocoe7kk.jpghere he stands with his parents: img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=paulocoelho8iw.jpg
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Post by Educate Me on Nov 24, 2005 16:41:25 GMT -5
the cia factbook was just wrong, we have around 5% unmixed amerinds in argentina, so 98% white just cant be true. we also have many mestizos, who are the majority in northern provinces, those close to paraguay, although those provinces are scarcely populated.
it is true that caucasians are the majority, but not 98%. more like 70%
and chile is not white in my opinion, 90% of the population are mestizos, more on the caucasian side but only white when compared to peru or bolivia (who have pure amerind majorities) Prosperity has whitened chileans, like, "east asians" who become white in the usa by being succesful, educated and wealthy, but they are still mestizos. In 20 years they went from being classified an andean nation with peru and bolivia to be classified a southern cone nation with argentina and uruguay. for example in 1987, the per capita gdp of peru was 1430 dl, and chile´s was 1317 now chile´s is 6272 and peru´s is 2448
anybody knows the % of mongoloid admixture in eastern europe? I recall reading an article once at the dienekes blog on the presence of the blood type diego in Poland, which was also very high in east germany.
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Post by tonynatuzzi on Nov 24, 2005 16:46:29 GMT -5
Hey Captain Educate Me I have even seen some Stormfront posters in the Latin Section of that site put the White figure in Argentina at as low as 50% atleast based on their definition of White.
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Post by Educate Me on Nov 24, 2005 16:51:06 GMT -5
argentines who would be considered white in stormfront are only around 50%, so it makes sense.
our turturros and light mestizos wouldnt be considered white there.
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