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Post by Ewig Berter on Dec 28, 2005 14:16:56 GMT -5
Even the pure Capsian berbers dont have that curly (in an afro way) hair of Kaddafi. Do you have any studies on hair analysis on Capsians? has anyone every uncovered Capsian remains with hair and studied them? Capsian hair is 100% straight. I know it from my personal observations. Old Eastern Berbers like the Garamantes were mostly capsids, ... They had straight hair : Btw, Bass dont claim Garamantes were Elongated East Africans, ...save your scientific credibility! ;D
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Post by OdinofOssetia on Dec 28, 2005 14:19:08 GMT -5
Not too long ago I have read a National Geographic (I actually do not like it, nor do I even really recommend it either) article on Berbers of Marocco, but I mostly "read" it for its photographs.
You Berter, and "any regular Moroccans" of your ilk should urgently read it, since these people looked absolutely nothing like any sort of real southern Europeans, just a bunch of Hamites.
Cromagnid my ass Berter, stop posting this BS about how "White" and "Caucasoid" Berbers really are!
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Post by Ewig Berter on Dec 28, 2005 14:23:14 GMT -5
Not too long ago I have read a National Geographic (I actually do not like it, nor do I even really recommend it either) article on Berbers of Marocco, but I mostly "read" it for its photographs. You Berter, and "any regular Moroccans" of your ilk should urgently read it, since these people looked absolutely nothing like any sort of real southern Europeans, just a bunch of Hamites. Cromagnid my ass Berter, stop posting this BS about how "White" and "Caucasoid" Berbers really are! I forgot to mention the white strain in Berbers was picked from Slavs/Saqlav/Sakaliba of Spain. You happy now!?.
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Post by Planet Asia on Dec 28, 2005 14:24:23 GMT -5
Do you have any studies on hair analysis on Capsians? has anyone every uncovered Capsian remains with hair and studied them? Capsian hair is 100% straight. I know it from my personal observations. Old Eastern Berbers like the Garamantes were mostly capsids, ... They had straight hair : Btw, Bass dont claim Garamantes were Elongated East Africans, ...save your scientific credibility! ;D Garamantes weren't Capsians, who point of origin was in southern Tunisia. Garamantes didn't live there and they most certain were Saharan Elongated types with admixtue from the North. Have you ever saw a real live Capsian? Have you ever analyzed their hair? Your word is meaningless because you've been known to shoot off some bullcrap about modern North Africans("Cro-Magnoids"?) that just doesn't fly.
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Post by Ewig Berter on Dec 28, 2005 14:48:34 GMT -5
Garamantes weren't Capsians, who point of origin was in southern Tunisia. Capsians were more prominent in the east of Tamazgha, i.e. Western Egypt-Eastern Algeria. The archeological culture that is associated quite certainly with them is that of kafsa--Capsa (Tunisia) but that does not mean they strated their westwards migration from that site and that they didnt live east of it: Atlantis mentioned amazigh presence inside Egypt itself and from the ancient egyptian depictions of the lybians we can even postulate Cromagnoid_Berbers lived in Lybia. Garamantes were mediterranoids and if they picked any foreign racial admixture it was from the South (negroid) not from the North. Yes. Most Pure Berbers today are Capsians with visible, sometimes dominant, Cromagnoid admixture. BullCrap ...
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Post by Planet Asia on Dec 28, 2005 14:54:59 GMT -5
Garamantes weren't Capsians, who point of origin was in southern Tunisia. Capsians were more prominent in the east of Tamazgha, i.e. Western Egypt-Eastern Algeria. The archeological culture that is associated quite certainly with them is that of kafsa--Capsa (Tunisia) but that does not mean they strated their westwards migration from that site and that they didnt live east of it: Atlantis mentioned amazigh presence inside Egypt itself and from the ancient egyptian depictions of the lybians we can even postulate Cromagnoid_Berbers lived in Lybia. Capsian culture may have spread but that doesn't entail a migration of people. They were not "Mediterranoids" they were Negroid. "The Sahara and the Garamantes were a Neolithic civilization combining fishing and stock raising. They were Negroid peoples with a pastoral economy. " www.csupomona.edu/~mibrahim/hst.329/NA.antiquity.htmlProof?
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Post by Ewig Berter on Dec 28, 2005 14:57:44 GMT -5
The man in the left of this image is the leader of Atlass Berbers of Morocco --- He is mostly Capsian: You have all the debate summed there: a mostly capsian amazigh next to a pure negroid and a southern european man. Compare the man with zidane in that picture: Edit: if Zidane's picture isnt visible --- it is the first one in that page: www.stars-celebrites.com/bio/Z/zidane.htm
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Post by OdinofOssetia on Dec 28, 2005 15:00:41 GMT -5
In any case, they were Hamites.
I do not think they were really Negroid, but most certainly not Southern European-like either, no matter how much crap Berter will write, and how much pics he'll post. I think they were similar to the ancient Egyptians, or Misraymis - essentially Northern Hamites, not outright Negroid, but not really White either.
The photos in the National Geographic I saw not too long ago clearly prove that.
I would classify Berbers as North-West Hamites, or lighter (but by no means really White) Hamites.
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Post by Planet Asia on Dec 28, 2005 15:08:59 GMT -5
The man in the left of this image is the leader of Atlass Berbers of Morocco --- He is mostly Capsian: You have all the debate summed there: a mostly capsian amazigh next to a pure negroid and a southern european man. Compare the man with zidane in that picture: Capsian is a tool industry, not a physical type, go and look up the Capsian and see for yourself. It originated in southern Tunisia. If modern Berbers are mostly "Capsians" in the way you're using it, what you're saying is most modern Berbers migrated north up into coastal North Africa. If thats the case please provide proof for such a migration.
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Post by Ewig Berter on Dec 28, 2005 15:09:40 GMT -5
In any case, they were Hamites. Go to a church or a synagogue! They were not and we do not need your confirmation. Part of us are desecandants of CromagnOIDs. End of Story. Think what you want. I see Nature by my eyes and I live by my convictions not yours.
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Post by Mike the Jedi on Dec 28, 2005 15:17:02 GMT -5
Berter, did the Berberids come into North Africa from Iberia, just as the Saharids came into North Africa from the Middle East?
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Post by OdinofOssetia on Dec 28, 2005 15:18:07 GMT -5
Zidane is a really awful speciemen for you to show around Berter.
That guy is clearly part-European, and therefore not really a real Berber.
His pictures prove nothing; I advise you check out that National Geographic article and its photos.
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Post by Mike the Jedi on Dec 28, 2005 15:19:07 GMT -5
Zidane is part European? I don't think so. I'm pretty sure he's pure Riffian.
If he's part Euro that's the first I've heard of it.
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Post by wadad on Dec 28, 2005 15:22:14 GMT -5
Zidane, like Igu is a Kabylian and not a Riffian. another cro-magnon Kabylie Berber...of the Berter-oid type ;D
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Post by OdinofOssetia on Dec 28, 2005 15:24:37 GMT -5
He might be pure Riffian or Kabylian (it does not really matter) "on paper", just as well as I might be pure Polish, but genetically he must have an awful lot of European/Caucasoid ancestry; that is not something very unusual for someone from Maghreb.
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