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Post by Planet Asia on Dec 28, 2005 3:55:42 GMT -5
No. But they both belong to the hamitic stock and the Ancient Egyptian's language belongs to the same language family as that of the Berbers. There are Berbers who live in Egypt (near the Siwa Oasis) who have are heavily negrified. No such thing as a Hamite and the Afro-Asiatic language family includes people of all races.
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Post by Mike the Jedi on Dec 28, 2005 12:06:03 GMT -5
Yes. I for one wish "Semite," like "Hamite," would be kept in the Old Testament, because that's where it belongs. These biblical patriarchs are out if place in the domain of secular anthropological and linguistic application. Cushite, as well.
That's not to say I don't believe in these tribes, but that I want to protect them from secular anthropologists who really have no idea how to interpret them correctly.
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Post by OdinofOssetia on Dec 28, 2005 12:20:03 GMT -5
I agree, I think Qaddafi is too robust to be descended of Arabians. He looks totally Berber in my opinion. Do you detect any foreign (non North African) influence in him? In his younger days: Comparison with another Med type Comparison with another African type My connection to Qaddafi: ;D wolnapolska.boom.ru/index-Libya.html
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Post by Mike the Jedi on Dec 28, 2005 12:46:58 GMT -5
I love Qaddafi's website. He like presents his own solutions to all the world's problems. It's great.
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Post by Ewig Berter on Dec 28, 2005 13:18:20 GMT -5
Or am I completely wrong? You are wrong. The man looks mostly Middle Eastern Mediterranid: I have a coworker with Bennani as a familly name (he is originally from Fess); He let me know that the large Bennani familly might have jewish connection as it did many inter-marriage with proven (although totally converted) jewish famillies of Fess like the Lehlou familly. The man could have possible berber, arab or european admixtures.
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Post by Planet Asia on Dec 28, 2005 13:20:52 GMT -5
Qadaffi looks like what the original Berbers may have looked like not the minority Kabyle European looking Berbers.
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Post by Ewig Berter on Dec 28, 2005 13:27:22 GMT -5
This is closer to the real thing. How do you know!?. Negroid influence. Morphologically, mostly berber-cromagnid. I share much things with him in his young age.
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Post by Planet Asia on Dec 28, 2005 13:31:24 GMT -5
Have you saw the new Brace study? Berbers don't resemble Cro-Magnid people so find anothr name. Being robust doesn't=Cro-Magnoid. Where do you see "Negroid" influence in Mohammed?
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Post by Ewig Berter on Dec 28, 2005 13:31:36 GMT -5
The ultimate berber-cromagnid : Its not my fault if he looks somewhat irish, ... blame Nature!.
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Post by wadad on Dec 28, 2005 13:33:44 GMT -5
The ultimate berber-cromagnid : Its not my fault if he looks somewhat irish, ... blame Nature!. His hair looks Irish, but his face looks Afghani
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Post by Planet Asia on Dec 28, 2005 13:37:47 GMT -5
The ultimate berber-cromagnid : Its not my fault if he looks somewhat irish, ... blame Nature!. Mayne, "Cromagnid" is a meaningless taxon because Cro-Mags varied and no modern Europeans look like Cromags. Cro-Magnons were robust people, nothing like ehat that guy looks like. If he is CroMag most of Europe is and as I told you from Brace's new study modern Europeans, canary Islanders and Berbers do not closely resemble any Cro-Magnons.
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Post by Ewig Berter on Dec 28, 2005 13:39:17 GMT -5
The ultimate berber-cromagnid : Its not my fault if he looks somewhat irish, ... blame Nature!. His hair looks Irish, but his face looks Afghani I didnt say he was irish. He is berber/riffian.
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Post by Ewig Berter on Dec 28, 2005 13:45:35 GMT -5
Qadaffi looks like what the original Berbers may have looked like not the minority Kabyle European looking Berbers. Even the pure Capsian berbers dont have that curly (in an afro way) hair of Kaddafi.
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Post by Planet Asia on Dec 28, 2005 13:47:57 GMT -5
Qadaffi looks like what the original Berbers may have looked like not the minority Kabyle European looking Berbers. Even the pure Capsian berbers dont have that curly (in an afro way) hair of Kaddafi. Do you have any studies on hair analysis on Capsians? has anyone every uncovered Capsian remains with hair and studied them?
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Post by Ewig Berter on Dec 28, 2005 14:02:22 GMT -5
Have you saw the new Brace study? Berbers don't resemble Cro-Magnid people so find anothr name. Being robust doesn't=Cro-Magnoid. (1) By empirical observation, one cant deny the presence of white individuals among Berbers, even among the mostly_capsian_and_heavily_negrid-influenced southern groups. Many clans are overhelmingly whites. (2) Archeologically, Modern Berbers are associated with the tunisian Capsa culture and with the most extreme northwest cultures (Oran, Mechta, Taforalt, ...). (3) From a Physical_Anthropology point of view, the remains at the coastal sites of Oran, Taforalt, ..etc. were found to be (old) caucasid and metrically very close to the anthropological remains of Southern Europe (Cromagn ids). Thus, metrically at least, Old Northwest Africans were Cromagn oids. (4) From points 1, 2 and 3, it appears only logical to associate white berbers with the old NWAs. Come here and ask any regular moroccan, they would tell you the same thing. The king is paternally 100% arab, he might have 'some' berber and negroid women in his maternal lineage.
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