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[asdf]

It would still be impossible for Vin Diesel and Wesley Snipes to be full brothers.

theoretically, two mulattos could turn out a full white looking kid and a full black looking kid, but yeah, diesel's hardly black.

[magneto]

I think Vin is throwing yall off because he doesn't let his hair grow out.Vin and this other guy could easily be full blooded brothers in America and noone would give them a 2nd look.Check these out..

media.ebaumsworld.com/diesel1.wmv

media.ebaumsworld.com/diesel2.wmv

[topdog]

mike2 said:

That's just skin color, though, which is variable.

It would still be impossible for Vin Diesel and Wesley Snipes to be full brothers.

You're talking about extreme to extreme, most African Americans fall well in between these two. But look at the Isley's and Jacksons, its more than just skin color, the same with Maurice and Verdine White.

[shango]

Agrippa,

You don't get and I can't explain and this is not the way for me to celebrate the 4th of July.


HAPPY 4th of JULY, I'm out of here!

[Agrippa]

topdog said:

You're talking about extreme to extreme, most African Americans fall well in between these two. But look at the Isley's and Jacksons, its more than just skin color, the same with Maurice and Verdine White.

In fact another person on this board spoke about the extremes and made this absurd statement since its a question of probability. Just compare it with dogs, if you mix two extreme dog "races" the result is mixed, now even in the first generation the mixed individual can look more this or that, but you will never have a fully typical "racial type".
If you want to breed back the inherited phenotypical features you need more than one generation since its not just one feature, but more than ones which made the "pure race". So its highly unlikely that even two mulatto parents can have two that extreme children since the pure chance of getting all features of the parental race in one individual is very, very unlikely, to get both extremes, both parental races in the children in almost full expression is impossible. Its a question of probability. Just think about a 50:50 chance for every feature (if both parents are 50:50 mixed) and that you need a typical recombination of lets say (ludicrous number) 50 genes to bring up a fundamental difference "in race". I dont know if you know the calculus of probability, but thats...

[Edwin]

Agrippa,

I must disagree with you about the proportions of Sudanid and Paleo-Negrid in America.

The reason it is thought that Sudanids predominate is because they are by far the more successful, and have found a good place in the culture. The Paleo-Negrids, on the other hand, have had no success, due to their admixtured non-Sudanid features, and likely smaller brains. Theirs is the type of the majority of the black population in America, the ghetto type, which is simply not represented in the middle and upper classes.

[Agrippa]

I know that and you are right, the Palaenegrids are mainly in the lower classes and its interesting to see the "black reality" as an European who mainly saw mixed race colored people and not as extreme Sudanid types - the Palaenegrids stick really out of this popular representation. Once I saw a news report about the "black spring break" and sure they were not the lowest, but the percentage of rather primitive and more extreme Palaenegrids was quite high and didnt fit the stereotypical picture of "TV-blacks", which are most of the time not black and if usually Sudanid.

There is strong variation in Palaenegrids too though, the Northern type is mostly mixed with Sudanids, not in a negative sense too extreme, just typical Negrid. The Central and especially Southern Palaenegrids are on average much more extreme and the Centrals more often mixed with Bambutids either.

No matter how big the differences in intelligence and personality are between Sudanids and Palaenegrids or if there are significant ones at all, one thing is for sure, both for Negrids themselves and "the non-Negrid people" Sudanids are more attractive than typical Palaenegrids though again there is variation too obviously.

Maybe it depends on the exact region too? Probably in some US areas rather Sudanid types are more common than in others...but I have no data or information about this. I have no exact numbers about the percentage of the Negrid types in the "black" general population either. Thought about that in the past too though but without clear data...my personal impression varies.

[Edwin]

Putting variation and recent admixture aside, this is accurate. The Sudanids are everywhere more successful, and are the presentable, much more intelligent blacks we can deal with as fellow human beings. We subconsciously deal with the Paleo-Negrids more like we deal with animals, and the history of post Civil War race relations in America provides countless examples.

It is terribly unfortunate that the study of race is not done in America, because countless Sudanids have suffered from its absence. In their case more than any other, skin color and hair type have condemned them in the eyes of countless whites. But when allowed to function as human peers, they do so quite well. The Paleo-Negrids appear to be chronically incapable of behaving like humans.

About distribution,

I live in one of the most black areas of the country, in Chesapeake Maryland. Both shores have a very high percentage of black to white, sometimes 40-50% black, and nearly all of them are poor and of Paleo-Negrid type. Baltimore, the nearest major city, has had the highest murder rate in the country for years, and thefts and rapes are common. Alot of the crime is simply not reported, especially in the areas too dangerous for whites to live in.

There is a small black middle-class, but it isn't large enough to be noticed.

The blacks here are the direct descendants of the slaves brought to work on the tobacco and other farms, and have not moved since their voyage from Africa. Other areas of the country, however, have black populations which came there of their own free will after the Civil War. It is in these areas that I would expect to find higher proportions of Sudanids, and find organized societies capable of regularly producing a variety of educated and/or successful individuals.

[mike2]

You guys crack me up.



"We must destroy the Paleonegrid menace before they contaminate Progressive City! Hi-ya!"

[magneto]

What the hell are going on about?Going by these pictures of Sudanid and Paleonegrid the run of the mil black american male doesn't even look like Wesley Snipes and definately not anything close to Idi Amin.



Majority of Black Americans no matter where they live are some type of modified Sudanid.

wadaad said:

This is coastal West African typical type:
(lol)
You telling me Afro-Americans look like that? Hell no

Tis is Mali's president:


he'd fit right in Crenshaw or Compton IMO


Look at this Wolof man...you telling me he doesnt look AA?

Here goes an average crowd of black people.

[topdog]

oliphanthead said:

Putting variation and recent admixture aside, this is accurate. The Sudanids are everywhere more successful, and are the presentable, much more intelligent blacks we can deal with as fellow human beings. We subconsciously deal with the Paleo-Negrids more like we deal with animals, and the history of post Civil War race relations in America provides countless examples.

It is terribly unfortunate that the study of race is not done in America, because countless Sudanids have suffered from its absence. In their case more than any other, skin color and hair type have condemned them in the eyes of countless whites. But when allowed to function as human peers, they do so quite well. The Paleo-Negrids appear to be chronically incapable of behaving like humans.

About distribution,

I live in one of the most black areas of the country, in Chesapeake Maryland. Both shores have a very high percentage of black to white, sometimes 40-50% black, and nearly all of them are poor and of Paleo-Negrid type. Baltimore, the nearest major city, has had the highest murder rate in the country for years, and thefts and rapes are common. Alot of the crime is simply not reported, especially in the areas too dangerous for whites to live in.

There is a small black middle-class, but it isn't large enough to be noticed.

The blacks here are the direct descendants of the slaves brought to work on the tobacco and other farms, and have not moved since their voyage from Africa. Other areas of the country, however, have black populations which came there of their own free will after the Civil War. It is in these areas that I would expect to find higher proportions of Sudanids, and find organized societies capable of regularly producing a variety of educated and/or successful individuals.

Paleo-Negrid-Sudanid nonsense, just shut up and cease to speak about black Americans and blacks altogether. Connecting pehnotypes to crime and behavior is unscientific and racist.