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Post by Melnorme on Dec 4, 2003 8:17:48 GMT -5
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Post by Silveira on Dec 4, 2003 12:06:18 GMT -5
Mr. Caipira:
In my opinion, you have a physical appearance that most Portuguese would not identify as typically Portuguese. I would say you look like a Portuguese with some Italian as well as slight Amerindian admixture, which is a common mixture in São Paulo and other parts of Brazil. I am familiar with the people of Northern Spain and I would say that you do not really look like a typical "Alpine" Basque or Asturian but you could conceivably belong to any south European nationality, albeit not as a representative of an average racial type.
Portuguese are much more aware of Brazilian types than vice-versa given the amount of Brazilian TV programmes aired in Portugal and the relative absence of Portuguese media material available in Brazil, outside of the main Portuguese colonies. Many Brazilians I have encountered base their claims of the "mixed" Portuguese on stereotypes, while the more learned Brazilians reffer to their readings of Gilberto Freyre and Sérgio Buarque de Hollanda, authors who were influenced by early 20th century Germanic and Anglo-Saxon racial theories which they opposed despite adopting many of the flawed premises of these theorists. For example, I have read Buarque de Hollanda´s "As Raízes do Brasil" and he makes references to the works of H.K. Günther, an ardent nazi and a favourite of Arthur Kemp. Ever since the independance of Brazil, the agents of British Free-masonry has spread an anti-Portuguese "black legend" to which perhaps most Brazilians subscribe to without even knowing the origins of their ideas. One example is Fátima Felgueira´s idiot lawyer, who is apparently a big media star in Brazil. He came to Portugal to "demolish" the Portuguese Judiciary, which he described as "inquisitorial", "authoritarian", "salazarista", etc. He appeared once on a Portuguese TV programme with a panel of Portuguese lawyers and law professors and he stood out as an idiot who coulden´t even speak proper Portuguese, much less defend his "enlightened" ideas in a proper and eloquent manner.
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Post by Artemisia on Dec 4, 2003 14:24:55 GMT -5
[quote author=alex >link=board=guess&thread=1070259115&start=14#0 >date=1070543331
>So are the Portuguese. Spaniards and Italians have >around 1% - more if they come from the south.
>Your skin is white, but you have visible black >admixture. You are what we would call over here, a >very light skinned "cabrito".[/quote]
I guess that means that Greece has about the same percentage of Negroid admixture....or is it less?
To be honest, I also see some non-European features in
Caipira. They could be black or native American. From the picture, I got the impression that he was part Amerindian, mostly from the eye shape and the thick lips. Of course, that may just be the picture.......
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Post by Caipira on Dec 4, 2003 15:51:45 GMT -5
Thanks everybody for answered me again... I will reply all you messages... Let´s begin with Alex: "So are the Portuguese. Spaniards and Italians have around 1% - more if they come from the south." (Alex) Hmmm... But I´ve heard about other studies that showed more sub-Saaran African admixture between Portuguese people. But of course, they can be older and wrong... "West Germans also have around 0,3% Black DNA." (Alex) "My "mozambican" grandmother had red hair, green eyes, freckled skin and yet she had black ancestry. That means nothing." (Alex) Well, but I´m just talking about appearence... And I know that my mom doesn´t show any non-Caucasoid feature... "Then you do have recent Black admixture. It is usually said that it takes 5 generations to completely "white-wash" black ancestry, I don't know how true that is." I´m a Biology student. This kind of thing doesn´t make any sense, is just racist demagogy. But anyway, My back ancestry is more distant than 5 generations ago... 6 generations to be more precise. 6 generations = 2% "Your skin is white, but you have visible black admixture. You are what we would call over here, a very light skinned "cabrito"." (Alex) Lololol... What does Cabrito means  "You may have seen recent African immigrants. They are not Portuguese. There are some mulattos, but usually not in Lisbon. In Northern Portugal you won't see one single black person." Yes, in northen Portugal I didn´t see one single black person. But in southern Portugal I saw some types that could pass by some ligh Brazilian mixed race types. In the beginings of the XIX century, the Portuguese Martim Francisco de Andrada (Diretor-Geral das Minas e Matas) travelled to São Paulo province. In that time, there were no European imigrants in São Paulo. Just old paulistas, mostly Mediterranean but a lot with slighly Amerindian admixture. Martim Francisco de Andrada looked at those paulistas and tought that they were southern Portuguese descents ("mouriscos"): "“Se os portugueses dessa origem se extinguissem na metrópole, acreditava Martim Francisco que haveriam de persistir no Brasil muitos exemplares conservando a magnífica pureza da raça primitiva, tão numerosos lhe pareceram os paulistas de origem e característicos de raça mourisca” (Gilberto Freyre, Casa-Grande & Senzala)" "You don't look northern Iberian either. Overall you are mediterranean, but there is something in the way you look (mostly your nose and your eyes) that suggests minor black admixture. Your hair looks completely European, and you are lighter skinned that the southern Portuguese average, so... maybe you just got a weird set of genes" There's nothing in human genetics that I know of that suggests that small eyes are a non-European specific trait. And remember I´m a Biology student and my father a doctor. About my nose... Well, the Spaniard actor Xavier Bardén has a larger nose than me. I´m not saying that your observations are wrong, but the "non-Caucasoid" traits that you saw in my pic we simple took from European parts of my family. My nose is exactly my father´s nose. My eyes are exactly my grandma´s nose. I´m not saying that I don´t have non-Caucasoid ancestry, in fact, I have an African great great great great grandmother. But yes, I agree with you when you say that I´m weird set of genes, lolololol... Nobody in my family, excepts me, appears to have a slightly non-Caucasoid blood... I definitive look like to my dad and my mom, but maybe I got the most weird genes of each part, lololol... Caipira !! |
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Post by Caipira on Dec 4, 2003 16:08:14 GMT -5
No I´ll answer to Silveira and Artemisia... "Mr. Caipira: In my opinion, you have a physical appearance that most Portuguese would not identify as typically Portuguese. I would say you look like a Portuguese with some Italian as well as slight Amerindian admixture, which is a common mixture in São Paulo and other parts of Brazil. I am familiar with the people of Northern Spain and I would say that you do not really look like a typical "Alpine" Basque or Asturian but you could conceivably belong to any south European nationality, albeit not as a representative of an average racial type. " (Silveira) Yes, I agree with you. I´m from São Paulo state, here the most common combination is Portuguese/Italian, but some people (not all), in fact, show some slight Amerindian admixture. I´m sure that I can´t represent any European country or ethnic background, but I could pass by a southern European. I passed by Spanish, Italian, French and still Portuguese in Europe, but never as an average racial type. "Portuguese are much more aware of Brazilian types than vice-versa given the amount of Brazilian TV programmes aired in Portugal and the relative absence of Portuguese media material available in Brazil, outside of the main Portuguese colonies." (Silveira) I know this... People in Brazil think that theyknow a lot about Portugal because they have a Portuguese grandpa or because Brazil received a lot of Portuguese imigrant untill 1965. But Portugal now a days is diferent from Portugal in 1965. It would be nice showing more about Portugal here in Brazil... "Many Brazilians I have encountered base their claims of the "mixed" Portuguese on stereotypes, while the more learned Brazilians reffer to their readings of Gilberto Freyre and Sérgio Buarque de Hollanda, authors who were influenced by early 20th century Germanic and Anglo-Saxon racial theories which they opposed despite adopting many of the flawed premises of these theorists. For example, I have read Buarque de Hollanda´s "As Raízes do Brasil" and he makes references to the works of H.K. Günther, an ardent nazi and a favourite of Arthur Kemp. Ever since the independance of Brazil, the agents of British Free-masonry has spread an anti-Portuguese "black legend" to which perhaps most Brazilians subscribe to without even knowing the origins of their ideas. One example is Fátima Felgueira´s idiot lawyer, who is apparently a big media star in Brazil. He came to Portugal to "demolish" the Portuguese Judiciary, which he described as "inquisitorial", "authoritarian", "salazarista", etc. He appeared once on a Portuguese TV programme with a panel of Portuguese lawyers and law professors and he stood out as an idiot who coulden´t even speak proper Portuguese, much less defend his "enlightened" ideas in a proper and eloquent manner." (Silveira) Well, Brazil had a lot of Nordicist ideas in the past. For example, Brazilian government decided to bring here European families to settle southern parts of Brazil. But not Portuguese families. They brought German families, Polish families and northern Italian families, but never Portuguese ones. Portuguese people who imigrated to Brazil done this by their own, without our govern help. Still now, in German states like Santa Catarina, being Portuguese is a little less than being mulato... It´s a stupid nordicist idea, in my opinion... They have bad names to all mediterranean types in Paraná, Santa Catarina and Rio Grande do Sul. Wow, I´ve never heard about Fátima Felgueira´s idiot lawyer. I haven´t heard about Fátima Felgueira either... But why he could speak proper Portuguese ? Was him dumb or he just has a Brazilian accent "To be honest, I also see some non-European features in Caipira. They could be black or native American. From the picture, I got the impression that he was part Amerindian, mostly from the eye shape and the thick lips. Of course, that may just be the picture....... " (Artemisia) Wew... I´ve no Amerindian ancestry... As I sayd, I´ve an African descent, but it´s about 2% of my genome. Probably it´s the pic, but I don´t know. I´ll show other better pics other day !!  Caipira !! |
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Post by alex221166 on Dec 4, 2003 17:04:12 GMT -5
To Artemisia "I guess that means that Greece has about the same percentage of Negroid admixture....or is it less?" To tell you the truth, I have never seen a genetic study about Negroid admixture in the Greek population. They obviously have some, I suspect that they might have something between 1-2%. I am sure that Dienekes will provide a much more accurate answer to your question. "To be honest, I also see some non-European features in Caipira. They could be black or native American. From the picture, I got the impression that he was part Amerindian, mostly from the eye shape and the thick lips. Of course, that may just be the picture....... " He definitely has minor non-European admixture. Of that I have no doubts whatsoever. To Caipira "Hmmm... But I´ve heard about other studies that showed more sub-Saaran African admixture between Portuguese people. But of course, they can be older and wrong..." No, the Portuguese do have a slightly higher % of black admixture. A large portion of southern Spain was settled by northern Spaniards (following the expulsion of the Moors). In Portugal, while many moors left or were killed, some stayed and were eventually converted and assimilated. The black admixture due to the black slaves was a lot more limited than what is usually believed. I have written a whole site (Refuting Arthur Kemp's Lies About Portugal) through which you can learn all you need to know about the subject. "Well, but I´m just talking about appearence... And I know that my mom doesn´t show any non-Caucasoid feature..." That is quite natural. What you should do is search pictures of our grand-parents and great-grandparents. You will most likely find at least one with visible non-European admixture. "I´m a Biology student. This kind of thing doesn´t make any sense, is just racist demagogy. But anyway, My back ancestry is more distant than 5 generations ago... 6 generations to be more precise. 6 generations = 2%" That would be true, if your other sides didn't have Black ancestry - which they do, from what you have told me, since most Europeans have a small amoubnt of Black DNA. I agree with you, having 2% or 10% black admixture is of little or no consequence. Furthermore, particularly in Brazil, unless your ancestors were recent immigrants, you can never be too sure that they didn't have any black ancestors. "Lololol... What does Cabrito means " In Portugal we call "cabrito" (to males) or "cabrita" (to female) to people that are basically European lookign but that still show a very light negroid admixture. It is the equivalent to the North American Creoles of mixed heritage. "Yes, in northen Portugal I didn´t see one single black person. But in southern Portugal I saw some types that could pass by some ligh Brazilian mixed race types." Probably in the dorm cities south of Lisbon. In the beginings of the XIX century, the Portuguese Martim Francisco de Andrada (Diretor-Geral das Minas e Matas) travelled to São Paulo province. In that time, there were no European imigrants in São Paulo. Just old paulistas, mostly Mediterranean but a lot with slighly Amerindian admixture. Martim Francisco de Andrada looked at those paulistas and tought that they were southern Portuguese descents ("mouriscos"): "“Se os portugueses dessa origem se extinguissem na metrópole, acreditava Martim Francisco que haveriam de persistir no Brasil muitos exemplares conservando a magnífica pureza da raça primitiva, tão numerosos lhe pareceram os paulistas de origem e característicos de raça mourisca” (Gilberto Freyre, Casa-Grande & Senzala)" " There is no "raça mourisca". The so-called Moorish types represent types which are strongly related to the original Iberians that reached Europe through North Africa. "There's nothing in human genetics that I know of that suggests that small eyes are a non-European specific trait." It is not the small eyes. I looked at your nose and at your eyes and the first thing I thought was that you could be a Creole. I might be wrong - if what you know about your ancestry is 100% correct, then I am probably wrong. "And remember I´m a Biology student and my father a doctor." I am a vet college student, and my father is a (retired) surgeon. That has no relevance in one's genetic heritage. Moreso, most of black DNA comes from my mother's side, and her side of the family is of a much higher social rank than my father's side. "About my nose... Well, the Spaniard actor Xavier Bardén has a larger nose than me. I´m not saying that your observations are wrong, but the "non-Caucasoid" traits that you saw in my pic we simple took from European parts of my family. My nose is exactly my father´s nose. My eyes are exactly my grandma´s nose. I´m not saying that I don´t have non-Caucasoid ancestry, in fact, I have an African great great great great grandmother. But yes, I agree with you when you say that I´m weird set of genes, lolololol... Nobody in my family, excepts me, appears to have a slightly non-Caucasoid blood... I definitive look like to my dad and my mom, but maybe I got the most weird genes of each part, lololol..." If you are the only one, than I am probably wrong. Anyway, even people with as much as 10% Black DNA rarely show it (particularly if they have relevant northern European ancestry). |
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Post by Dienekes on Dec 4, 2003 17:11:33 GMT -5
To tell you the truth, I have never seen a genetic study about Negroid admixture in the Greek population. They obviously have some, I suspect that they might have something between 1-2%. As far as I know, no L mitochondrial sequences have ever been detected in Greece. One Y chromosome belonging to haplogroup A has been found in a sample of 366 Greek males. Hence, with our present knowledge, sub-Saharan African genetic influence in Greece is 0.14%. |
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Post by Caipira on Dec 4, 2003 21:02:51 GMT -5
To Alex: "No, the Portuguese do have a slightly higher % of black admixture. A large portion of southern Spain was settled by northern Spaniards (following the expulsion of the Moors). In Portugal, while many moors left or were killed, some stayed and were eventually converted and assimilated. The black admixture due to the black slaves was a lot more limited than what is usually believed. I have written a whole site (Refuting Arthur Kemp's Lies About Portugal) through which you can learn all you need to know about the subject." (Alex) I got it... So, Refuting Arthur Kemp's Lies About Portugal is your site ?? Good one, I must say... "That is quite natural. What you should do is search pictures of our grand-parents and great-grandparents. You will most likely find at least one with visible non-European admixture." (Alex) Yes, I found one... But it´s not a grand-parent or a great-grandparant... Is a great great-grandparent. Well, he has Caucasoid features but he´s dark woth curly hair... "That would be true, if your other sides didn't have Black ancestry - which they do, from what you have told me, since most Europeans have a small amoubnt of Black DNA. I agree with you, having 2% or 10% black admixture is of little or no consequence. Furthermore, particularly in Brazil, unless your ancestors were recent immigrants, you can never be too sure that they didn't have any black ancestors." (Alex) Yes, my other ancestors are recent imigrants. My father is Uruguayian. His grandparents were all Spaniards and Italians. My mothe´s mother has 2 Spaniards granparents, an Italian grandfather and a German grandmother. My mother´s father has 2 Italian grandmothers, a Portuguese grandfather and a Brazilian grandfather. My non-Caucasoid ancestry came threw him... He was my great great grandfather. His father was Portuguese, but his mother was half Portuguese and half African... So, there is an African woman 6 generations ago in my family, and the rest part are recent European imigrants... "In Portugal we call "cabrito" (to males) or "cabrita" (to female) to people that are basically European lookign but that still show a very light negroid admixture. It is the equivalent to the North American Creoles of mixed heritage." (Alex) Hmmm... Like an American Creole... Do you know if Creoles and Cajuns are the same thing And are there now a days some cabritos in Portugal ?? Well, here we have the world "cabra", but it´s not the same as "cabrito". Cabra, over here, means a mulato or a mameluco or a person that it´s obviusly European/Amerindian/African. There are other Brazilian racial terms like "terceirão" (White/Mulato), "cabrocha" (a beautiful mulata) and others... "Probably in the dorm cities south of Lisbon." (Alex) Yes, you´re right... "There is no "raça mourisca". The so-called Moorish types represent types which are strongly related to the original Iberians that reached Europe through North Africa." (Alex) Freyre used the term "raça mourisca" just to ilustrate the point, with no scientifical basis... It would be like "Moorish look" "It is not the small eyes. I looked at your nose and at your eyes and the first thing I thought was that you could be a Creole. I might be wrong - if what you know about your ancestry is 100% correct, then I am probably wrong." (Alex) No, my large nose came threw my father, that hasn´t black blood... But I think that new pics can solve this problem... "I am a vet college student, and my father is a (retired) surgeon. That has no relevance in one's genetic heritage. Moreso, most of black DNA comes from my mother's side, and her side of the family is of a much higher social rank than my father's side." (Alex) I didn´t say that inteligence, high social rank and whitness are together. I just sayd that Both, my father and me understand about genetics and human anatomy... "If you are the only one, than I am probably wrong. Anyway, even people with as much as 10% Black DNA rarely show it (particularly if they have relevant northern European ancestry)." (Alex) There are no other people with my features in the family. Here that´s a pic of my family. Small pic, but, ok. I´m the guy in the left:  And that´s my father, my sister and me, when I was a 12 years old boy...  Caipira !! |
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Post by Caipira on Dec 4, 2003 21:05:07 GMT -5
Those pics are quite small...
You can save them and see with a zoom, if you prefer.
After that, you can delete them because I´m sure that you have no interests keeping my pics on your pc, lolololol...
Caipira !!
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Post by Caipira on Dec 5, 2003 23:25:09 GMT -5
Hey, the pic is cut !!!  Now yes... Is not a good one again, my sweater is too large, I look like fater than I am and my head is diferent too, but... Now 2 very old pics... I was a 16 years old boy, probably...   The last two ones were taken by web cams too... So some parts of pics are distorced... In the first one, my mouth and in the second one my mom and my sis are quite estrange... But ok... Let´s see... Caipira !! |
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Post by great99 on Dec 6, 2003 19:07:55 GMT -5
I know very well what you are. You are a big liar, because you is noway son of europeans. I bet you are joking with us with the game: europeans can look like anyone.
I know very well your type, you is a full brazilian with amerindian admixture.
Beyond you be a lier you is a dumbass too. When a largue test say portugueses are 5% negroid, this don't mean ALL portugueses have in average 5% of negroid genes. This mean that 5% of total population possess some degree of negroid admixture.
By this test Portugal is:
Total population: about 10 milions
5% of the population: about 500 thousands
So, 500 thousand portugueses belong to negroid haplogroup. However these numbers are outdated, I believe portugal is less than 5% negroid.
How do you kwon that? I suppose you paid to a expensive DNA Test, right? Because without that it's impossible to you know the quantity of negroid contribution in you.
Now you are showing you real face, you wanna valorize and overstimate the negroid admixture in Europe.
Alexandre Nesta look by far more european than you. He look like he have some north african admixture (not negroid admixture). His lips aren't full (just unusual) and he don't have this wide nose that are you trayng to pass.
Lie lie lie and more lies. A portuguese never will confound you with a north spaniard.
There is something so afrocentric about you. I'm starting think you is a full negroid.
Let's resume: you is a brazilian, that look like a mestizo but say that have negroid admixture. Lie about the heritage of your father (saying they are europens) and suddenly start to valorize the negroid admixture in Portugal.
Go out, PARAÍBA.
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Post by AWAR on Dec 6, 2003 19:24:19 GMT -5
Okeydokey, now I'm ready to intervene in this thread ;D
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Post by great99 on Dec 6, 2003 19:45:20 GMT -5
Come on... It's obvious this guy is a farce. First he say he can pass for a south europe, after he say portugueses say they look like a north spaniard and to complete the farce he say his mother look like a dutch. A DUTCH! BTW he say his mother have negroid admixture, but just his father show visible negroid admixture. Look this phrase: This woman obsiouly dye her hair with red colour. Came on... women with red hair are very light skin and she really look nordic (in a amerindian sense) |
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Post by ProdigalSon on Dec 6, 2003 21:24:01 GMT -5
I would never, ever, ever mistake the people in these pictures for Europeans. They look exactly like what they are: mixed South American types. Amerindian, and to a less extent Negroid, influence is obvious. I hope this doesn't offend you, but you're not white by and European or North American definition. |
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Post by Caipira on Dec 6, 2003 22:50:25 GMT -5
LOL!!! Man, I started to understand that you guys take race very, very seriuosly !!! "I know very well what you are. You are a big liar, because you is noway son of europeans. I bet you are joking with us with the game: europeans can look like anyone. I know very well your type, you is a full brazilian with amerindian admixture." (great99) Man... I sayd that I have Negroid admixture. But about one thing I´m 100% sure: I don´t have any Amerindian blood. I know all (ALL) my genealogical tree... "Beyond you be a lier you is a dumbass too. When a largue test say portugueses are 5% negroid, this don't mean ALL portugueses have in average 5% of negroid genes. This mean that 5% of total population possess some degree of negroid admixture. By this test Portugal is: Total population: about 10 milions 5% of the population: about 500 thousands So, 500 thousand portugueses belong to negroid haplogroup. However these numbers are outdated, I believe portugal is less than 5% negroid." (great99) No. Well, as Alex told me, Negroid admixture between Portuguese people is smaller than 5%, the avarege is about 1-2%... But this mean that 1-2% is the avarege of admixture between Portuguese people and not that just 1-2% of Portuguese people have Negroid admixture. "How do you kwon that? I suppose you paid to a expensive DNA Test, right? Because without that it's impossible to you know the quantity of negroid contribution in you." (great99) Well... I´m not talking in the scientific sense, I´m talking in the popular sense. As I sayd before, just 2% of my ancestry came from Africa and 98% from Europe, and NOT that I have about 2% of Negroid genetic contribution in me... "Now you are showing you real face, you wanna valorize and overstimate the negroid admixture in Europe. Alexandre Nesta look by far more european than you. He look like he have some north african admixture (not negroid admixture). His lips aren't full (just unusual) and he don't have this wide nose that are you trayng to pass." (great99) Really  He could pass by a mestiço at any part of Brazil... "Lie lie lie and more lies. A portuguese never will confound you with a north spaniard." (great99) They had. Maybe I´m shpywing you wrong pics... "Let's resume: you is a brazilian, that look like a mestizo but say that have negroid admixture. Lie about the heritage of your father (saying they are europens) and suddenly start to valorize the negroid admixture in Portugal. Go out, PARAÍBA." (great99) "You is a brazilian" Please, the correct way is "you are"... I´m not lying about my father heritage. He´s full European. He´s from Uruguay, people in Uruguay are generaly from Spaniard/Italian heritage. Of course that doesn´t matter. I can see that you´re not so good with racial classifications... You saw Amerindian blood in me, that I simple don´t have. You saw Negroid features in my dad, and he´s simple 100% European. But it´s not your fault. These are web cam photos, except the small ones... So they´re not precise. This christmas I´ll put better pics, probably ny familly will take more photos and I´ll pass some in the scanner... Precise ones, of course... "Come on... It's obvious this guy is a farce. First he say he can pass for a south europe, after he say portugueses say they look like a north spaniard and to complete the farce he say his mother look like a dutch. A DUTCH! BTW he say his mother have negroid admixture, but just his father show visible negroid admixture." (great90) Visible Negroid admixture in my dead ? Again, you´re wrong... But probably you´re saying this because my father has a large nose, isn´t it ?? Well, I agree with you that´s quite unusual between Europeans. My father´s brother is a little dark too, in Uruguay, where they were born, they used to call him "Moro"... Stop with this f*cking racial paranoid. I don´t belong from a Jewish terrible plan against the white race, I´m just trying to have fun in this site... But appears that you, Portuguese people are very fanatized trying to prove to rest of Europe that you´re white... O.k., you´re right... But the German people would never see Portuguese and Sweden people in the same way... Germans don´t see Turkish as "Aryans". So, I´m sure that they don´t see Portuguese people as "Aryans" either because in fact, Turks ans Portugueses can look quite the same... Anyway, unfortunally there are some White supremacists groups in Brazil. The southern ones just don´t accept Portuguese descents, just northern European descents. Portuguese people are called by some agressive names by some Germans... Anyway, my mom doesn´t paint her hair... "I would never, ever, ever mistake the people in these pictures for Europeans. They look exactly like what they are: mixed South American types. Amerindian, and to a less extent Negroid, influence is obvious. I hope this doesn't offend you, but you're not white by and European or North American definition." (ProdigalSon) Of corse it doesn´t offend me !! Just an observation, man... But if you say that I have Negroid influence, i´t O.K. because you´re technically right. But I don´t have a single blood of Amerindan blood... Just it... But I´m not happy still now... I need more classifications after leave this forum. So, there´s a better pic of my dad who has "obviusly" Negroid heritage... In the middle, my sister, and in the left, my "Amerindian" grandma from Spain (Catalunyan)... I other pic is me when I was a small boy...:  Here´s me and my "obviusly Amerindian" great grandmother again (Catalunyan)  Let´s put some others... I hope you guys don´t mind... Here´s my great grandma again and my "obviusly Amerindian" great granfather borned in Mantua (Italy)  Here are my "Amerindian" granparants with my little Negroid new sister...  Maybe this pics and be more clear, they weren´t taken by webcams, ladies and gentlemen... I think that´s it... My intention in this forum is having fun and not argue with racialists like great99... Caipira !! |
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