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Post by Educate Me on Dec 7, 2005 16:44:03 GMT -5
Risky!?. Where would Jesus, my then-supposed-Savior, be!?.  In heaven, waiting for your soul! Christians who die killed by angry muslim mobs are Martyrs! I may even pray to you Please berter, help me with my exam! |
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Post by Ewig Berter on Dec 7, 2005 16:46:40 GMT -5
Well, I can teach you Atheism. Is this Info any indication!?.
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Post by DeLacroix on Dec 7, 2005 16:50:05 GMT -5
Isnt converting to christianity rather risky? like, relatives and neighbours would try to stone you? In Islam Apostacy is punished by death. Muhammad said " those who leave Islam Kill them". But I guess Morocco isn't too islamic like middle East, or at least for the time being. Isn't it true Berter? |
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Post by Soomaal on Dec 7, 2005 16:54:52 GMT -5
Napolean Bonaparte as Quoted in Cherfils, ‘Bonaparte et Islam,’ Paris, France, pp. 105, 125.
"Moses has revealed the existence of God to his nation. Jesus Christ to the Roman world, Muhammad to the old continent...
"Arabia was idolatrous when, six centuries after Jesus, Muhammad introduced the worship of the God of Abraham, of Ishmael, of Moses, and Jesus. The Ariyans and some other sects had disturbed the tranquility of the east by agitating the question of the nature of the Father, the son, and the Holy Ghost. Muhammad declared that there was none but one God who had no father, no son and that the trinity imported the idea of idolatry...
"I hope the time is not far off when I shall be able to unite all the wise and educated men of all the countries and establish a uniform regime based on the principles of Qur'an which alone are true and which alone can lead men to happiness."
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Post by DeLacroix on Dec 7, 2005 16:55:43 GMT -5
Well, I can teach you Atheism. Is this Info any indication!?. Start teaching it to your compatriots, you'll do them a great favor. |
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Post by anodyne on Dec 7, 2005 16:59:17 GMT -5
hmmm... not unlike Christianity. All religions have social rules. Perhaps you would like to go on about the economic and political rules of Islam. Enlighten me, sir. (I would actually say it's a mixture of political/religious - but it's still a religion) Islam did spread out by conquering others but this "terror and death" story line you're giving me doesn't fit very well considering it takes more than the threat of pain and suffering to have a whole people accept a religion to base their lives around. There has to be something about the religion to appeal to the group. I guess the fact that they believe in a supernatural being and honor it, and its connection to Judaism. I'm not the type to tell anybody to do anything (unless you're working for me or I'm supervising you ) I respect other people's right to have whatever beliefs they fancy as long as they don't break any laws.... so I don't mind the KKK, Jehovah's witnesses, muslims, etc. as groups. The belief itself, whether it is the belief system of the KKK or Islam, I don't respect. I also don't respect Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, the list goes on and on. What does this have to do with "political correctness"? Since you have a negative view of Islam that would mean anyone that disagrees with you is being "PC"? I don't drink coffee and we're not pals - not until you buy me a beer |
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Post by DeLacroix on Dec 7, 2005 17:19:10 GMT -5
To strengthen your arguments of nonsense you quote a Westerner, hmmm.
His nation was much more tolerant and open minded before his poisoned gift, Islam. The proof, there were christians, jews and polytheists living peacefully together, in the arabian peninsula. All that ended with the arrival of Muhammad (malediction be upon his rotten soul).
He introduced the worship of Allah by terror and blood. All those who refused to submit to him, were killed, raped, and tortured. Why don't you tell us the story of , Bani Quraiza, the Jewish tribe that resided near Medina for 2000 years, or the story of Asma Bint Marwan, the mother of five small children and Abu Afak, the 120 years old man? Or maybe you want me to tell them about it myself?
What a moronic statement, worthy of a feeble-mind. Islamic Sharia, what a wonderful law, we should withdraw the universal declaration of human rights, and live under the shade of Sharia. Hey pal, let me ask you something, are you always stupid or is it just a special day? go preach your backward beliefs elsewhere, and if you wanna be ruled by Sharia, go back to the crap hole where you came from.
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Post by Soomaal on Dec 7, 2005 17:42:58 GMT -5
To strengthen your arguments of nonsense you quote a Westerner, hmmm. His nation was much more tolerant and open minded before his poisoned gift, Islam. The proof, there were christians, jews and polytheists living peacefully together, in the arabian peninsula. All that ended with the arrival of Muhammad (malediction be upon his rotten soul). He introduced the worship of Allah by terror and blood. All those who refused to submit to him, were killed, raped, and tortured. Why don't you tell us the story of , Bani Quraiza, the Jewish tribe that resided near Medina for 2000 years, or the story of Asma Bint Marwan, the mother of five small children and Abu Afak, the 120 years old man? Or maybe you want me to tell them about it myself? What a moronic statement, worthy of a feeble-mind. Islamic Sharia, what a wonderful law, we should withdraw the universal declaration of human rights, and live under the shade of Sharia. Hey pal, let me ask you something, are you always stupid or is it just a special day? go preach your backward beliefs elsewhere, and if you wanna be ruled by Sharia, go back to the crap hole where you came from. Most Muslim countries don't even practice Shariah as it is supposed to be practiced, they have some retarded laws. Most Muslim countries have corrupt dictators, that I won't deny. Is this Jewish tribe you speak of not the same one that betrayed the prophet Muhammad PBUH at one time, did you expect the prophet PBUH to pat them on the back when they sided with the Muslims enemy, next time don't babble on about thing you don't know. Would you be this brave and say this to a Muslim, the internet surely has made lions out of mice. Watch your mouth next time. |
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Post by DeLacroix on Dec 7, 2005 18:00:37 GMT -5
To strengthen your arguments of nonsense you quote a Westerner, hmmm. His nation was much more tolerant and open minded before his poisoned gift, Islam. The proof, there were christians, jews and polytheists living peacefully together, in the arabian peninsula. All that ended with the arrival of Muhammad (malediction be upon his rotten soul). He introduced the worship of Allah by terror and blood. All those who refused to submit to him, were killed, raped, and tortured. Why don't you tell us the story of , Bani Quraiza, the Jewish tribe that resided near Medina for 2000 years, or the story of Asma Bint Marwan, the mother of five small children and Abu Afak, the 120 years old man? Or maybe you want me to tell them about it myself? What a moronic statement, worthy of a feeble-mind. Islamic Sharia, what a wonderful law, we should withdraw the universal declaration of human rights, and live under the shade of Sharia. Hey pal, let me ask you something, are you always stupid or is it just a special day? go preach your backward beliefs elsewhere, and if you wanna be ruled by Sharia, go back to the crap hole where you came from. Most Muslim countries don't even practice Shariah as it is supposed to be practiced. Most Muslim countries have corrupt dictators, that I won't deny. Is this Jewish tribe you speak of not the same one that betrayed the prophet Muhammad PBUH at one time, did you expect the prophet PBUH to pat them on the back when they sided with Muslims enemy, next time don't babble on about thing you don't know. Would you be this brave and say this to a Muslim, the internet surely has made lions out of mice. Watch your mouth next time. Wrong, saudi arabia, Iran, soudan, and the taliban practice the purest form of Sharia. As for the story of bani quraiza, here is the story: Muhammad massacred all their men and enslaved their women and children. To separate boys from men, he inspected their genitals. If they had grown pubic hair he decided they are men and kill them. Asma Bint Marwan, the mother of five small children and Abu Afak, a 120 year old man, were assassinated in the middle of the night at the order of Muhammad for composing poems that he found insulting. What a righteous man. As for your last statement, I think you're implying if I were front of you, you would slit my throat, which is I consider as a threat of death.. Allahu akbar! death to the infidels ! Anyway, you're not the one to be blamed. Those who should be blamed are the useful idiots who defend you and tolerate your arrogance out of weakness. But don't take this as a victory, the west is not its politicians, the West is its people, and when this people feel threatened, he will fight back for survival. |
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Post by eufrenio on Dec 7, 2005 18:26:56 GMT -5
Laudabilis, cool down! I don´t see a death threat, I see a taunt or bravado.
Laissez-lui le temps de s´expliquer.
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Post by Soomaal on Dec 7, 2005 18:39:56 GMT -5
Most Muslim countries don't even practice Shariah as it is supposed to be practiced. Most Muslim countries have corrupt dictators, that I won't deny. Is this Jewish tribe you speak of not the same one that betrayed the prophet Muhammad PBUH at one time, did you expect the prophet PBUH to pat them on the back when they sided with Muslims enemy, next time don't babble on about thing you don't know. Would you be this brave and say this to a Muslim, the internet surely has made lions out of mice. Watch your mouth next time. Wrong, saudi arabia, Iran, soudan, and the taliban practice the purest form of Sharia. As for the story of bani quraiza, here is the story: Muhammad massacred all their men and enslaved their women and children. To separate boys from men, he inspected their genitals. If they had grown pubic hair he decided they are men and kill them. Asma Bint Marwan, the mother of five small children and Abu Afak, a 120 year old man, were assassinated in the middle of the night at the order of Muhammad for composing poems that he found insulting. What a righteous man. As for your last statement, I think you're implying if I were front of you, you would slit my throat, which is I consider as a threat of death.. Allahu akbar! death to the infidels ! Anyway, you're not the one to be blamed. Those who should be blamed are the useful idiots who defend you and tolerate your arrogance out of weakness. But don't take this as a victory, the west is not its politicians, the West is its people, and when this people feel threatened, he will fight back for survival. There are many versions of this incident, to each his own version. I wouldn't slit your throat or lay a finger on you, as it is not in my nature to harm people. I know that God will do what is best. You need not feel threatened, are you always this paranoid. |
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Post by eufrenio on Dec 7, 2005 18:44:38 GMT -5
There are many versions as to this incident, to each his own version. I wouldn't slit your throat or lay a finger on you, as it is not in my nature to harm people. I know that God will deal with filth like you. You need not feel threatened, are you always this paranoid. Calling people "filth" and wishing them ill is not exactly friendly. I say you two cut it out right now. |
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Post by Soomaal on Dec 7, 2005 18:49:12 GMT -5
There are many versions as to this incident, to each his own version. I wouldn't slit your throat or lay a finger on you, as it is not in my nature to harm people. I know that God will deal with filth like you. You need not feel threatened, are you always this paranoid. Calling people "filth" and wishing them ill is not exactly friendly. I say you two cut it out right now. He is the one who said that I should go back to a crap hole. All I did was post a quote and he attacked, where is the civility in that. Anyways I will edit my post; I just hope you see that I was provoked and in no way did I take any shots at his beliefs. |
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Post by eufrenio on Dec 7, 2005 18:52:38 GMT -5
You don´t have to edit your post. An apology will suffice.
Attack the ideas not the person. The same goes for laudabilis.
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Post by DeLacroix on Dec 7, 2005 19:05:39 GMT -5
You don´t have to edit your post. An apology will suffice. Attack the ideas not the person. The same goes for laudabilis. Man!, I know I was over-outraged when he wrote the last statement, if a non-muslim had told me something of the sort, I wouldn't have such a reaction, but what he said just awakened a deep wound. This type of threats or warnings, we live it everyday in France, the freedom of speech here is being pissed on, just to satisfy the muslims, who don't have anything to do better than getting angry and torching cars and disabled old women. We cannot lose our values and our freedom just to please a bunch of a backward sect followers. I've always been a tolerant person, open to all peoples of all cultures and all creeds, but to be honest, I can't stand Islam and those who live and wanna live in our countries, and yet, despise our culture and our values. In France we have asians, christian africans, armenians, south americans, east-europeans,...and they're all well integrated and respected by the natives. The only exception, are muslims, may they be from north africa, subsaharian africa, or even French converts, they always make problems. They want us to adapt to them, well I tell them, in your dreams, they're will be the Apocalypse before seeing an islamic state in France. |
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