Ask A Black Chick.

[alaina]

nymos said:

Are you keepin' it real?

As opposed to keepin' it fake?

Yes.

[nymos]

alaina said:

nymos said:

Are you keepin' it real?

As opposed to keepin' it fake?

Yes.

Shucks I was looking for something wittier.

At least tell me this, are you down with the brothas and sistahs?

[Hairless]

After reading this thread: Where did you get your immense patience and good-naturedness?

[nockwasright]

anodyne said:

Thomas Sowell is an excellent scholar. I have over a dozen of his books. Started reading "The Vision of the Anointed." Your mother knows her stuff. You should let her give you a speech on it. It's worth listening

I love Sowell's works too. He can be read for free at www.newsandopinion.com.

@anodyne: wouldn't Sowell be pissed off that he has been suggested to alaina as a reading because she's black? It's not like his books are addressed to blacks or even concern racial problems, and in an article he rightly complained that he had found some books of his in a barne and noble under "Black studies".
I think any American interested in his ethnicity (Chinese, Japanese, Italian, Irish, German ...) would enjoy Sowell's "Ethnic America" and "Patterns and Migrations".

alaina: do you think being black is of some importance for you in your life? and if it is, is it per se or just because society gives importance to it?

[dukeofpain]

anodyne said:

"Caucasoid is a myth, origional jews where Aramid/Armenid not white , and not all jews are white, geographically i think of israel is north north east africa, power to the people and peace to my ethiopian brethren"

Don't tell me you're one of those people who associate Caucasoid with white skin and ONLY white skin. Come on now. And yes there are Jews who aren't Caucasoids but there aren't many of those. Although the Lemba are linked genetically to other Jews I believe Ethiopian Jews are not. That's not to say they aren't Jews but if I converted tomorrow I wouldn't be ethnically Jewish.

You would say Armenians aren't Caucasoid?

I think he was just saying the original jews wouldn't be considered white, in a very poorly worded way. Caucasoid/caucasian are very general terms, and yes even hebrews would apply to that title. I don't know what he's talking about with armenians as being their racial type. As armenians would be considered superficially "white", which by the way is a very vague term. They have everything that makes someone "white" basically, which is: a not too swarthy appearance, a homeland in europe or close to it, and historically of christian faith. The superficial dividing line seems to be centered around religion and darkening of skin. For example, racially I'm sure many people from Iran or turkey would be considered "white", However, as they are muslim, that seems to discount them from being included. This exclusion includes jews also, whom even if "white" looking, nonetheless wouldn't be considered white. Racially, many arabs, even if christian, I'm sure wouldn't be considered white, like Usama bin Laden, who resembles the racial type of the hebrews, which is what I think the original poster was getting at.

[asdf]

dukeofpain said:

anodyne said:

"Caucasoid is a myth, origional jews where Aramid/Armenid not white , and not all jews are white, geographically i think of israel is north north east africa, power to the people and peace to my ethiopian brethren"

Don't tell me you're one of those people who associate Caucasoid with white skin and ONLY white skin. Come on now. And yes there are Jews who aren't Caucasoids but there aren't many of those. Although the Lemba are linked genetically to other Jews I believe Ethiopian Jews are not. That's not to say they aren't Jews but if I converted tomorrow I wouldn't be ethnically Jewish.

You would say Armenians aren't Caucasoid?

I think he was just saying the original jews wouldn't be considered white, in a very poorly worded way. Caucasoid/caucasian are very general terms, and yes even hebrews would apply to that title. I don't know what he's talking about with armenians as being their racial type. As armenians would be considered superficially "white", which by the way is a very vague term. They have everything that makes someone "white" basically, which is: a not too swarthy appearance, a homeland in europe or close to it, and historically of christian faith. The superficial dividing line seems to be centered around religion and darkening of skin. For example, racially I'm sure many people from Iran or turkey would be considered "white", However, as they are muslim, that seems to discount them from being included. This exclusion includes jews also, whom even if "white" looking, nonetheless wouldn't be considered white. Racially, many arabs, even if christian, I'm sure wouldn't be considered white, like Usama bin Laden, who resembles the racial type of the hebrews, which is what I think the original poster was getting at.

Actually, Yigal thinks Coon's a loon for making that plate and that theory.

By the way, Armenian Taurids are different from other Armenids...

I think she fits:


Lundman had a "mtebide":

III. Taurid Race: mature-boreal, with very high and round skull, very flat occiput and larger nose. At least two subraces: the very tall Dinarid with short arms and the mature-boreal, medium-sized Anatolid or Armenid (and the somewhat less pronounced Mtebid, with a very low frequency of blood type gene q, in the Caucasus).

[anodyne]

quote]I love Sowell's works too. He can be read for free at www.newsandopinion.com.

@anodyne: wouldn't Sowell be pissed off that he has been suggested to alaina as a reading because she's black? It's not like his books are addressed to blacks or even concern racial problems, and in an article he rightly complained that he had found some books of his in a barne and noble under "Black studies".
I think any American interested in his ethnicity (Chinese, Japanese, Italian, Irish, German ...) would enjoy Sowell's "Ethnic America" and "Patterns and Migrations". [/quote]

Yes, Sowell deals with ethnic groups in general. I mentioned Sowell because I thought it was relevant considering Sowell has made some good points on African Americans. His last book "Black Rednecks and White Liberals" especially comes to mind. Although Sowell is highly respected I don't find many people who are aware of him so I always throw around his name just in case with the hope someone will look into him. I don't think Sowell would be pissed off. I've mentioned Sowell before with regards to Germans, Irish, etc. It depends on the topic.

[anodyne]

In another thread he made a post directed at Heavenwood that was much more clearer. In that post he states Jews are Caucasoids. It was his "Caucasoid is a myth" remark that confused me. Since he posted differently in another thread with regards to Caucasoids and Jews I have to assume that his "caucasoid is a myth" post was just a mental glitch that happens from time to time.

[alaina]

khangard said:

After reading this thread: Where did you get your immense patience and good-naturedness?

My mommy

[alaina]

nockwasright said:

alaina: do you think being black is of some importance for you in your life? and if it is, is it per se or just because society gives importance to it?

It isn't, now. When I was younger, I had a few issues. My dad wasn't around, and his side of the family didn't want to be bothered with me. I was angry that I was half white (because they were), and tried to do things to make other people accept me as black. Being black became extremely important to me, enough that I went kinda crazy for a moment around 12-14.
I was never quite black enough for the black people, and not quite white, either.
Around fifteen, I just started to accept me for what I was...everything that I am. I made a list of identities for myself (following a therapist's advice). None of them included race. Being black doesn't affect my everyday life, personally much anymore, and not even 'society' makes me feel that it matters much. I go to school and work occasionally. Never have I felt that other people atttached some importance to the fact I was black.
I only startto think about it again in the exaggerated world of the net.

[anodyne]

Do you people use deodarent?

yo, yo, you spelt deodorant wrong.

[nordicyouth]

Does race (or colour) have any impact in your life? If yes, how so?

[eufrenio]

Why do you call yourself black even though your father is white? Doesn´t that make you half-white or half-black, whichever you prefer? (And Drooperdoo would say that you are more white than black, taking into account the mixed ethnic composition of American Blacks)

[alaina]

nordicyouth said:

Does race (or colour) have any impact in your life? If yes, how so?

No, it doesn't really. I'm okay now that I have gotten over my issues.

[alaina]

eufrenio said:

Why do you call yourself black even though your father is white? Doesn´t that make you half-white or half-black, whichever you prefer? (And Drooperdoo would say that you are more white than black, taking into account the mixed ethnic composition of American Blacks)

Hmm, it's a complicated question, but I'll give the simplest answer I can give. It's part a personal choice and part an affect of my environment. First of all, I feel a part of the rest of my family (my mother's side). I share their brown skin and their attitude towards life.
Half of something never seemed like an identity to me. There were more like me, my sisters, but I felt being a part of my real family was knowing that their part was the whole of me. I wasn't half of what was foreign to me.
Even though I had white friends as a young girl, I knew that they were different than me, they were foreign in a sort of way that I couldn't formulate. (Which is strange to think of now, considering that feeling has disappeared with age...)
And, umm...when I look in the mirror I see a black chick.

I hope that makes sense...