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[Planet Asia]

As a rule I still think black southerners are better than black northerners, we're more hospitable and we stick together more than northern blacks. In Mississippi you will never see a neighbor let another neighbor go hungry, in the north its dog eat dog although I've never lived in the north.

[alaina]

bertrand said:

...in the north its dog eat dog although I've never lived in the north.

Then, I'm curious...what are you basing your assumption on? I would tend to agree with you that there is little collective spirit where I am, but it's not limited to blacks by a long stretch.

[Planet Asia]

alaina said:

bertrand said:

...in the north its dog eat dog although I've never lived in the north.

Then, I'm curious...what are you basing your assumption on? I would tend to agree with you that there is little collective spirit where I am, but it's not limited to blacks by a long stretch.

I base this on the blacks that have moved to the Delta region where I stay that came from New York and New Jersey. They didn't bother to even introduce themselves to the people in their neighborhood here and they don't even speak nor go to church on Sunday.

[galton]

bertrand said:

I base this on the blacks that have moved to the Delta region where I stay that came from New York and New Jersey. They didn't bother to even introduce themselves to the people in their neighborhood here and they don't even speak nor go to church on Sunday.

Seems reasonable. I'm a white man. I've noticed similar behavior differences between rural white working class people and the more cosmopolitan type of whites.

[December]

Basing some sort of superiority on going to church every sunday and being cordial, doesn't seem to be right.

[Planet Asia]

decemeber said:

Basing some sort of superiority on going to church every sunday and being cordial, doesn't seem to be right.

Its not just that, it goes deeper. You're dealing with two different mentalities when it comes to northerners and southerners, because of our struggle in the south during the Civil Rights Movement we just tend to stick together a whole lot more than northern blacks. We have generations of families that know other as if we were actual family. The north is just ghetto and fast moving cities and except for those that have immigrated to the cities from foreign countries, there is no real sense of togetherness.

[December]

Many Northerners mobilized Southerners during the civil rights movement. Generally bigger cities are faster paced, but I wouldn't say they lack a sense of family or togetherness. I think immediate families in bigger cities can be very closenit.

[Planet Asia]

decemeber said:

Many Northerners mobilized Southerners during the civil rights movement. Generally bigger cities are faster paced, but I wouldn't say they lack a sense of family or togetherness. I think immediate families in bigger cities can be very closenit.

Southern blacks sparked the movement as well as the "Black Power" movement which northerners took and ran with. There would have been no movement without the southern blacks.

[December]

The "Black Power" movement in the US certainly did not start in the south; it's not practical to think it would. Black Power, Black Nationalism and Pan-African ideals all have its roots in the North. Marcus Garvey, Nation of Islam, W.E.B Dubois etc. In fact even pre-civil rights it was Northern Free men and Abolitionists who championed the rights of Blacks. During the 60s it was Stokely Carmichael, a native New Yorker who introduced the ideals of Black Power and self defense to some of the non-violent protest groups in the South. And of course there would be no civil rights movement without Southern Blacks; Southern Blacks were the ones whose rights had been violated.

[galton]

bertrand said:

Southern blacks sparked the movement as well as the "Black Power" movement which northerners took and ran with. There would have been no movement without the southern blacks.

I thought the jews started the NAACP and ran it until 1975?

[Planet Asia]

decemeber said:

The "Black Power" movement in the US certainly did not start in the south; it's not practical to think it would. Black Power, Black Nationalism and Pan-African ideals all have its roots in the North. Marcus Garvey, Nation of Islam, W.E.B Dubois etc. In fact even pre-civil rights it was Northern Free men and Abolitionists who championed the rights of Blacks. During the 60s it was Stokely Carmichael, a native New Yorker who introduced the ideals of Black Power and self defense to some of the non-violent protest groups in the South. And of course there would be no civil rights movement without Southern Blacks; Southern Blacks were the ones whose rights had been violated.

Marucs Garvey was Nationalist and a Separatist and Du Bois was Pan-African which both include some ideals of "Black Power", but it was still in the South where the slogan and chant "Black Power" was first heard, by members of SNCC. Carmichael was born in Trinidad but truth enough he moved to New York at age 11, but he did most of his work initially among the Southerners with SNCC and CORE. He didn't introduce the concept of "Black Power" to southerners, but he popularized it. The name and emblem of the "Black Panther Party even came from the South

"Origin of the name
SNCC (The Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee) workers, including Stokely Carmichael were working to register voters in Lowndes county, Alabama. Following the success of the Mississippi Freedom Party, the organizers worked to create the Lowndes County Freedom Organization as an independent party. Alabama law required that all parties have a visual emblem for illiterate voters. Courtland Cox contacted a designer in Atlanta for a design. The designer originally came back with a dove, but the SNCC organizers in Lowndes thought it was too gentle, so the designer suggested the white panther, the mascot of Clark College in Atlanta. The Lowndes County Freedom Organization became the Black Panther party, and soon there were Black Panther parties coming up around the nation. Many were unconnected with the SNCC, and the Black Panther Party for Self-Defense was not officially connected to any of the other parties or to SNCC."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Panthers#Origin_of_the_name

It was black southerers that took the Civil Rights Movement to a national stage, though I agree more with self-defense and self determination values from northerners like Malcolm X.