The Most Maligned European Nation(s)

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murphee said:

Romania-
Orphanages filled with mistreated and neglected children

Yes, and you should see some documentaries about mistreating of children in Russia's orphanages too. No horror film can match that much evil.

Serbia-
Aggressive warrior nation

BS. As many Southern European nations throughout history they defended the gates of Europe against Islam. I like them only for that. The West was the evil (or the idiot) there. Muslim Bosnians, Kosovar, and even Albanians are the problem, not the Serbs.

Poland-
Target of endless jokes. Citizens unfairly accused of being stupid

I don't know if they are stupid or not. I do know that they are rather nice people.

Northern Ireland-
Catholics and Protestants at each other's throats. They get along fine here

Don't blame them, blame the English.

Germany-
Hitler

And Köhl, and Schroeder, ... who likes Germans anyway?

Russia-
Giant unruly nation in which the common people have always gotten the short end of the stick, whether ruled by monarchs, Communist bureaucrats or organized crime

I'd say organized crime. I love Russian Classics and Literature, and I'm sure that the people who created such beauty must be of a high standard. But all I've seen so far around are crooks and vicious people.

France-
Nation of fashionistas and culinary snobs

I won't say anything about the French. I have no words to describe them. They are a nightmare.

[RebelSoul]

I don't look like Yelchin! I am darkish, tall, without the high cheeckbones, with grandioso eyes errr... ok, if the ladies in here wish for a complete description they can ask for it in private

;D ;D ;D

BTW What's the racial similarities of Russian and Ukrainian? I've met a couple of Ukrain ladies who are ...well... astoundingly beautiful

[alex221166]

"I love Russian Classics and Literature, and I'm sure that the people who created such beauty must be of a high standard. But all I've seen so far around are crooks and vicious people"

The Russians you admire are for the most part, the ones who were killed or who fled after the 1917 revolution. Today's Russians descend from the lower social classes, and if it weren't for the Communist education policies, Russia would have been a complete nulity in what relates to culture and science.

Now that the Communist regime is over, now that they aren't so controlled, the true aspect of the post-revolutionary nature of "grab what you can" is showing up once again. I don't think Russia has a future as a democratic country. IMO, most Russians would rather have a Tsar.

[Praetor]

By opening the corded to the core issue you just released hell,lol! I can't wait for the Russian posting intervention!!

[Melnorme]

Praetor said:

By opening the corded to the core issue you just released hell,lol! I can't wait for the Russian posting intervention!!

Nah, they don't post here anymore. Although who knows, they may return now that Graeme has been reaped.

[Silveira]

Nah, they don't post here anymore.

They have gone back to Russia to enjoy all that famous Russian prosperity and freedom.

[murphee]

Yeah, but Dostoevsky is a great writer, a favorite of mine. And I like Baltic amber and Russian hand-painted lacquer boxes.

[Praetor]

Melnorme said:

Nah, they don't post here anymore. Although who knows, they may return now that Graeme has been reaped.

Well,they are like Pestilence,they come and go but you are never done with them.In RM board EGR(Rarog) once came out of the blue and revived a thread 6 months after it's demise and started a flame war.I guess hell will break loose in October ;D

[alex221166]

Praetor said:

Well,they are like Pestilence,they come and go but you are never done with them.In RM board EGR(Rarog) once came out of the blue and revived a thread 6 months after it's demise and started a flame war.I guess hell will break loose in October ;D

For some starnge reason, EGR and I always managed to maintain a certain degree of civility whenever we exchanged opinions. The same cannot be said about Prodigal Son...

[Praetor]

In my case ,on RM board I had furious debates with Prodigal and quite civilized discussions with EGR. In Dodona the situation flipped. Prodigal was the one that became more decent while EGR gradually turned into a troll.

[galvez]

I have no gripe against the so-called Slavs who left this board. I understand that I upset them with things I wrote, but if they are truly sincere they should pay attention to some things written on this board about how Nordicists truly feel about them. My goal is not to put them down but to elevate them -- no one deserves to be treated as second-class under the Nordicist scheme.

Undoubtedly there are ethnic tensions in Slavic countries leading up to attacks against, for example, swarthy peoples from Asia, Africa, and especially the Caucasus region. However, these groups are falsely equated with Southern Europeans by some so-called East European racialists, when in fact Southern Europeans have nothing to do with the Slavic countries other than having built many of their cities by having had geniuses commissioned to design many of their important landmarks over the past few centuries. Southern Europeans have nothing to do with their problems. Thus, the hatred directed toward them from so-called East Europeans can only come from those who are somewhat culturally distanced from these countries; those who are Americanized, for lack of a better term, and have incorporated fringe American concepts. However, it so happens that many of those who trash Southern Europeans in America feel that Eastern Europeans are Mongoloid. So, there are no points to win by attacking Southern Europeans.

I understand, though, that some of these extreme nationalists feel no kinship with Meds because they tend to be fairer-skinned. That's perfectly fine. But they should realize that the swarthy German-Americans they want to make alliances with want to use them as slaves, as their ideological forebears did a few decades ago: to make the men work the fields and industries and use their women as whores.

The Nordicists who post on certain forums idealize and sympathize with the Nazis: one can see this with their choice of avatars. However the American racists wish to deny it, the Nazis wrought destruction to many Slavic lives and families, simply because they were Slavic. Thus, the Slavs who choose to "side" with them and attack the Meds to show how un-Med they are are insulting their heritage rather than displaying honorable behavior.

Since they despise Meds -- or Levantines, to be more precise -- they are stuck between a rock and a hard place. They can despise Meds all that they want, but forging alliances with Nazis and Nordicists like McCulloch isn't the way to go. No one, however, should be forced to like a certain group.

Thus, there is no reason to be angry with them, especially since racists who rant on message boards carry little influence in social and political affairs.

[AWAR]

galvez said:

I have no gripe against the so-called Slavs who left this board.

;D I was just banned from their forum yesterday ROFL!

Undoubtedly there are ethnic tensions in Slavic countries leading up to attacks against, for example, swarthy peoples from Asia, Africa, and especially the Caucasus region. However, these groups are falsely equated with Southern Europeans by some so-called East European racialists, when in fact Southern Europeans have nothing to do with the Slavic countries other than having built many of their cities by having had geniuses commissioned to design many of their important landmarks over the past few centuries. Southern Europeans have nothing to do with their problems. Thus, the hatred directed toward them from so-called East Europeans can only come from those who are somewhat culturally distanced from these countries; those who are Americanized, for lack of a better term, and have incorporated fringe American concepts. However, it so happens that many of those who trash Southern Europeans in America feel that Eastern Europeans are Mongoloid. So, there are no points to win by attacking Southern Europeans.

That's absolutely true. However, the opinions and actions of retarded skinheads and other marginal punks do not represent the opinion of the general public in Slavic countries.

Whoever boasts about what violent acts alcoholized teenagers commit is surely made of the same sort of crap.

I understand, though, that some of these extreme nationalists feel no kinship with Meds because they tend to be fairer-skinned. That's perfectly fine.

That's just a by-product of their previous worshipping of Hitler and his buddies. If you ask them about it, they'll surely deny.

[berschneider]

alex said:

"I love Russian Classics and Literature, and I'm sure that the people who created such beauty must be of a high standard. But all I've seen so far around are crooks and vicious people"

The Russians you admire are for the most part, the ones who were killed or who fled after the 1917 revolution. Today's Russians descend from the lower social classes, and if it weren't for the Communist education policies, Russia would have been a complete nulity in what relates to culture and science.

Now that the Communist regime is over, now that they aren't so controlled, the true aspect of the post-revolutionary nature of "grab what you can" is showing up once again. I don't think Russia has a future as a democratic country. IMO, most Russians would rather have a Tsar.

I guess culture is genetic, right?

[berschneider]

murphee said:

alex, I'll explain my choices. I was going to originally, but I was lazy ;D

DISCLAIMER--Ensuing comments do NOT reflect my personal beliefs. They're views I've seen expressed by people and/or the media in the United States.

Romania-
Orphanages filled with mistreated and neglected children

Serbia-
Aggressive warrior nation

Poland-
Target of endless jokes. Citizens unfairly accused of being stupid

Northern Ireland-
Catholics and Protestants at each other's throats. They get along fine here

Germany-
Hitler

Russia-
Giant unruly nation in which the common people have always gotten the short end of the stick, whether ruled by monarchs, Communist bureaucrats or organized crime

France-
Nation of fashionistas and culinary snobs

I think this list sums up American stereotypes pretty well. I would also add Germany because, at least in the US, stereotyping Germans is not a taboo. They are occasionally shown as stupid, slow thinking people who lack humour and are always suspect of Nazi sympathies.

[berschneider]

alex said:

"I love Russian Classics and Literature, and I'm sure that the people who created such beauty must be of a high standard. But all I've seen so far around are crooks and vicious people"

The Russians you admire are for the most part, the ones who were killed or who fled after the 1917 revolution. Today's Russians descend from the lower social classes, and if it weren't for the Communist education policies, Russia would have been a complete nulity in what relates to culture and science.

Now that the Communist regime is over, now that they aren't so controlled, the true aspect of the post-revolutionary nature of "grab what you can" is showing up once again. I don't think Russia has a future as a democratic country. IMO, most Russians would rather have a Tsar.

I guess this kind of attitude is a good illustration of Russophobia and is the answer to the question asked in this thread's subject.

By the way, I don't think Portuguese history is that more "democratic" than Russia's (by historic standards Portugal's flirt with democracy is recent). Portgual has always been a rather undeveloped, uneducated nation. I for one have never heard of any world class Portuguese composer or an author. Compared with nations of similar size, Portugal is a total zero, - no offense intended.

On the other hand saying Russia would be a "nullity" if there was no a coordinated educational and science policy, then that is true. Any NATION would be nullity if it has no coordinated educational policy. Russia now has the world's highest enrollment in the world, which actually increased by about 40% since the end of Communism.