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Post by buddy on Dec 8, 2005 16:22:46 GMT -5
In regard to "Hispanic"-white mixes (sheesh I'm beginning to hate the term "Hispanic" but I'll use it here anyway to avoid confusion), the fact that Latin American Hispanics usually have some Caucasoid ancestry to begin with (mixed with Amerindian or African depending on the region) is why a typical mixed Hispanic mixing with a fully European person will produce offspring that look basically European. One parent is contributing only European genes whereas the Hispanic parent is contributing at least some European ancestry, which explains why tons of these mixes look essentially European.
However, as in Aroundtheworld's example, the greater the African or Amerindian ancestry in the Hispanic parent, the more likely it is that the child is going to look mixed. Still, exceptions do abound of course.
Of all the major Latin American ethnicities in America, the whitest are definitely the Cubans, who are often Mediterranean white just like their Spanish forebears. Thus, they are white but get labeled as "Hispanic" lol. Still, Cuban-Americans are also disproportionately white. In Cuba, mulattoes/blacks are the majority I believe, at around 70% I think.
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Post by asdf on Dec 8, 2005 18:33:55 GMT -5
Um, because "hispanic" is a made-up non-race perhaps?
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Post by tonynatuzzi on Dec 8, 2005 21:11:12 GMT -5
Somebody who is half Black and half Mexican is a Blaxican and somebody who is half White and half Mexican is a Honkeyxican. ;D
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Post by brazen on Dec 10, 2005 14:35:19 GMT -5
I completely agree with this, the majority of hispanic/white mixed people i've seen look more white than hispanic. I have a friend who's wife is Mexican, she is a typical dark skinned mestizo woman but their child is completely nordic looking. If I hadn't seen it with my own eyes I probably would never have believe she is the mother of that child, but after I thought about it actually makes sense considering that my friend is white and his Mexican wife is probably at least 50% white so their child is probably about 75% European in phenotype in which case their child's total nordish look is really no supprise.
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Post by buddy on Dec 10, 2005 18:22:29 GMT -5
Um, because "hispanic" is a made-up non-race perhaps? Well yeah, but I only used the term just to avoid confusion. I'm well aware that "Hispanic" means nothing in racial terms, only in linguistics.
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Post by tonynatuzzi on Dec 10, 2005 18:36:22 GMT -5
Yeah but most Americans who are half Hispanic and half Non Hispanic White look more Med than Nordic on average like Freddie Prinze Jr. for example is a typical look for people of this mixture.
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Post by buddy on Dec 11, 2005 4:05:24 GMT -5
Yeah but most Americans who are half Hispanic and half Non Hispanic White look more Med than Nordic on average like Freddie Prinze Jr. for example is a typical look for people of this mixture. I think so too, though Freddie Prinze Jr. is actually half Italian, and it's definitely true that many "Hispanic"/white mixes feature a white parent who is of northern European background.
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Post by tonynatuzzi on Dec 11, 2005 4:17:57 GMT -5
Yeah but even when the non Hispanic parent is not of Southern European descent I noticed that many of them still come out looking Med.My brother's girlfriend is half Mexican,a quarter Polish,and a quarter Russian but looks like she could easily pass for any Southern European ethnicity.
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Post by aroundtheworld on Dec 11, 2005 11:36:46 GMT -5
Somebody who is half Black and half Mexican is a Blaxican and somebody who is half White and half Mexican is a Honkeyxican. ;D My Mexicano friend told me that "Mexican blood is strong". He says Mexicans don't have an issue mixing with black americans or white b/c the child will still be Mexican in their eyes. He says you speak the language and are in the culture...you are in. I've seen 1/2 Mestizo/black mxes. they called them Mestiza-Negra. many of them are exotic and beautiful and tend to appear like NOrthern Indians. White/Mexican is beautiful as well. Perfect tanned skin and usually silkier hair with gold undertones.
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Post by buddy on Dec 12, 2005 23:05:02 GMT -5
Yeah but even when the non Hispanic parent is not of Southern European descent I noticed that many of them still come out looking Med.My brother's girlfriend is half Mexican,a quarter Polish,and a quarter Russian but looks like she could easily pass for any Southern European ethnicity. That has to be because an average southern European appearance represents a blend of northern European and mestizo appearances Plus, southern European ancestry is usually the European ancestry that mestizos have (Iberian). I have a friend who is of a very similar combination as your brother's girlfriend. He's 1/2 Mexican, 1/4 German, and 1/4 Polish, and he looks Mediterranean. In actor Freddie Prinze's case, I forgot to mention that his "Hispanic" father was actually 1/2 Hungarian Jewish if I remember correctly, and I'm sure that his Puerto Rican side was all or mostly Spanish. That, combined with his Italian mother, would mean that his ancestry is virtually 100% Mediterranean.
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Post by Polako on Dec 14, 2005 11:04:12 GMT -5
me being one of them what are your views on how mixed race people should be racially classified..........are they just 'biracial' or do you classify them according to which race they lean towards looking the most (eg halle berry is classed as black by many - or african american, although she is half white and was brought up by her anglo-saxon mother while many mixed race people 'escape' :S looking african and people call them white or mediteranean. the same is true for people like myself, who are biracial but have turned out looking like another completely unrelated race to what their actual admixture is (my case East Asian - from Nordic Aethiopid mix)............... So you're North European/NE African, and you look East Asian? I find that hard to believe.
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Post by buddy on Dec 14, 2005 13:47:12 GMT -5
^Gelaye's appearance is rather surprising, but I think he said his father has some Lappish ancestry, which when combined with darker pigmentation, could produce a somewhat East Asian look. Still, I thought he was straight Japanese when I first saw him!
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Post by aroundtheworld on Dec 14, 2005 14:33:23 GMT -5
Yep. Morten Harket from the group A-Ha could have a baby with Liya Kabede(sp?) the famous Ethiopian model and produce a baby that looks like a less-tan Gelaye.
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