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Post by ivyleak on Dec 2, 2005 20:50:16 GMT -5
Are you just saying that because she was born in South Africa and you automatically assume she must have some African ancestry just because she happens to be born in a predominantly Black country.If she was born in Belgium for example would you still be saying the same thing. No, it has nothing to do with the fact that she was born in S. Africa. I have just noticed that many biracial females look very similar/sometimes strikingly like Charlize. Is this just coincidence or something more....hmmm?
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Post by aroundtheworld on Dec 2, 2005 20:50:43 GMT -5
Charlize doesen't look like she shows any partial African ancestry to me atleast in my opinion. I don't really detect it either. But somehow many biracial (European/African) mixes end up looking something or exactly like her. It is very subtle, but I believe all her features are slightly influenced by SSAfrican. It lends a smooth exotic quality to her face that has probably helped her to stand out from the average blond Hollywood American girl. she has a cherubish face that is "perfect" blend I'm guessing due to the NOrdic and French admixture. Her features are "soft" and not too sharp and not too full. I always wondered why pretty Mulattoes have that phenotype.
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Post by tonynatuzzi on Dec 2, 2005 20:59:57 GMT -5
A true Mulatta in the true 50/50 sense could never look like Charlize Theron.Although Quadroons and Octoroons can certainly do.
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Post by aroundtheworld on Dec 2, 2005 21:04:44 GMT -5
A true Mulatta in the true 50/50 sense could never look like Charlize Theron.Although Quadroons and Octoroons can certainly do. right. I was referring to American Mulattas. Usually the black parent is already a mulatto or amerindian triracial. Vanessa Williams looks like a quadroon but is considered black b/c her parents are multi-generational quadroon. Her father looks caucasoid and her mulattoid.
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Post by tonynatuzzi on Dec 2, 2005 21:09:59 GMT -5
And even when the "Black" parent has significant European ancestry its not guaranteed that they are gonna produce a White offspring with a Caucasian partner.I mean look at Halle Berry she definitly can't pass for White and I doubt her Black father was a pure African.
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Post by aroundtheworld on Dec 2, 2005 21:15:18 GMT -5
And even when the "Black" parent has significant European ancestry its not guaranteed that they are gonna produce a White offspring with a Caucasian partner.I mean look at Halle Berry she definitly can't pass for White and I doubt her Black father was a pure African. he was pretty black. He had "hard" black features like Senegalese ya know? her mom is anglo so IMO she looks Ethiopian or somali with a touch of mediteranean.
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Post by tonynatuzzi on Dec 2, 2005 21:17:59 GMT -5
You have seen a pic of her father before.
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Post by aroundtheworld on Dec 2, 2005 21:22:23 GMT -5
You have seen a pic of her father before. They flashed a pic of him in a early documentary about halle before she hit it really big. She had done Jungle Fever and Losing isaih. I really wasn't shocked. Based on halle's appearance I could tell he would be mostly unmixed. Halle reminds me of Jaye Davidson who is half english half African. Halle looks like British Mulattas who rae typically 1/2 unmixed african.
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Post by tonynatuzzi on Dec 2, 2005 21:24:44 GMT -5
Tatyiana Ali is also pretty dark for a biracial.
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Post by aroundtheworld on Dec 2, 2005 21:30:54 GMT -5
Tatyiana Ali is also pretty dark for a biracial. Yep. I guess it's b/c of the unmixed slaves in Panama. plus she's mixed East Indian and not caucasoid unless it's thru her Panamanian mom.
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Post by ikilledjesus on Dec 2, 2005 21:38:36 GMT -5
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Post by brownoid on Dec 4, 2005 18:32:48 GMT -5
me being one of them what are your views on how mixed race people should be racially classified..........are they just 'biracial' or do you classify them according to which race they lean towards looking the most (eg halle berry is classed as black by many - or african american, although she is half white and was brought up by her anglo-saxon mother while many mixed race people 'escape' :S looking african and people call them white or mediteranean. the same is true for people like myself, who are biracial but have turned out looking like another completely unrelated race to what their actual admixture is (my case East Asian - from Nordic Aethiopid mix)............... hey gelaye. do you ever get confused for pure race? i.e. a maxxxed out extremoid east asian? does it offend you. or do you take pride in being able to pass for an extremoid. what do you think would happen if you immigrated to Japan and procreated with a japanese female. Do you think the offspring would pass as japanese or appear like gwylo's (or whatever the word for foreigner is)
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Post by brownoid on Dec 4, 2005 18:36:19 GMT -5
Tatyiana Ali is also pretty dark for a biracial. those half french half cameroonian sisters, i forgot their name, they're pretty black, they actually look like sistas - les nubians i think (well actually they dont look that dark in some other pics, and actually have some nice mulattoid features). but anyways, just imagine half tamil half dinka!
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Post by huzar on Dec 6, 2005 7:28:53 GMT -5
This is a good example of Mongolid + Caucasid mix. Imo, the two component are equally dominant (father Chinese, mother european) :
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Post by gelaye on Dec 6, 2005 8:05:24 GMT -5
me being one of them what are your views on how mixed race people should be racially classified..........are they just 'biracial' or do you classify them according to which race they lean towards looking the most (eg halle berry is classed as black by many - or african american, although she is half white and was brought up by her anglo-saxon mother while many mixed race people 'escape' :S looking african and people call them white or mediteranean. the same is true for people like myself, who are biracial but have turned out looking like another completely unrelated race to what their actual admixture is (my case East Asian - from Nordic Aethiopid mix)............... hey gelaye. do you ever get confused for pure race? i.e. a maxxxed out extremoid east asian? does it offend you. or do you take pride in being able to pass for an extremoid. what do you think would happen if you immigrated to Japan and procreated with a japanese female. Do you think the offspring would pass as japanese or appear like gwylo's (or whatever the word for foreigner is) I get confused for pure races the whole time - actually most of the time really (unless I'm speaking to someone intelligent and they say 'well i can tell you are mixed') I get confused as a Malaysian or Thai alot of the time but I have had: Japanese Chinese Amerindian Indian North African French Spanish Italian Eskimoid Central Asian Lebanese Portuguese Hawaiian (Polynesian) To be honest I'm actually really happy when people say I look like I'm from somewhere I'm not! It doesn't offend me at all it just lets me know that 'hmmm maybe I'll pretend to be this race next time' I wouldn't say my features are extreme though, which is probably why I can pass for so many ethnic groups..... I have often wondered what my children would look like if i had them with a Japanese woman........I think they would turn out looking like progressive, tanned jakunin-type japanese, with wavy hair, and larger eyes (yet still with an epicanthic fold) to the untrained eye though they would on the whole look japanese. - maybe something like this girl but with a higher nose bridge and less pronounced epicanthus This: + This = This?
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