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Post by MC anunnaki on Aug 20, 2005 9:24:05 GMT -5
OH THE HORROR! Or..? What do you think? Perhaps we've already had a poll about this question, but here goes anyway. I voted for option 5 because I don't care if this and that ethnic group is bred "out of existance" as long as the breeding is done freely. To me, nothing is constant, especially not people. Please tell us what you voted for!
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Post by Mike the Jedi on Aug 20, 2005 9:36:17 GMT -5
My advice to people who speak out against interracial relationships is this:
If you don't approve of RACE-MIXING, then don't mix. Nobody's forcing YOU to mix with anyone. Just don't try to force your crackpot beliefs on the rest of us.
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Post by harri on Aug 20, 2005 11:28:30 GMT -5
Well, my opinion depends on races involved, really. And it's really the cognitive ability and other non-aesthetic factors that concern me the most in mixing. If you don't approve of RACE-MIXING, then don't mix. Nobody's forcing YOU to mix with anyone. Just don't try to force your crackpot beliefs on the rest of us. Who's "us"? Just because you desperately want to be liked and accepted by everyone, there's no need to glamorize racial nihilism either.
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Post by harri on Aug 20, 2005 12:00:13 GMT -5
So, increasing and or preserving IQ is your raison d'etre? Then by your logic no races should mix since it would always decrease the IQ of one group. IQ is only makes a part of inheritable mental characteristics. I'd say what's sometimes referred as "mental age" is more important than plain brain crunching power if you want to maintain a civilized society where science, arts and culture at large can flourish. And no, mixing close groups wouldn't take a thing out of either 'IQ pool', really.
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Post by Toasty on Aug 20, 2005 15:33:20 GMT -5
If it weren't for race mixing I wouldn't be here today.
Neither would a lot of nice Dodona posters either.
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Post by Educate Me on Aug 20, 2005 15:53:06 GMT -5
I am white, but I have volga germans and russian jews in my bloodline, If I pay for one of those dna tests, will they tell me If I have mongoloid blood from some hun/magiar/mongol/tatar/turk whatever that may have raped one of my ancestors hundreds of years ago?
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Post by harri on Aug 20, 2005 16:39:26 GMT -5
"Mental age"? Can you give me an example, because I have no idea what you are talking about. I'm sure you've sometimes met people who are mentally very immature and appear to have a worldview of an eleven-year-old, despite otherwise being completely physically normal adults? It wouldn't help them much if they scored very high on any IQ test, because their mental age drags them back so much in everyday life anyway.
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Post by Melnorme on Aug 20, 2005 17:12:21 GMT -5
"Mental age" as a variable is probably much more heavily influenced by environment and culture. Under proper circumstances, anybody will have to get his act together and stop acting like a child, or suffer the consequences. ( This is the proper place to insert a right-wing rant about the welfare state )
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Post by human2 on Aug 20, 2005 17:19:52 GMT -5
"Mental age"? Can you give me an example, because I have no idea what you are talking about. I'm sure you've sometimes met people who are mentally very immature and appear to have a worldview of an eleven-year-old, despite otherwise being completely physically normal adults? It wouldn't help them much if they scored very high on any IQ test, because their mental age drags them back so much in everyday life anyway.They do just fine. That immature fits of insanity and creativity is what has propelled many great civilizations.
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Post by Melnorme on Aug 20, 2005 17:27:55 GMT -5
What you say!
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Post by Mike the Jedi on Aug 20, 2005 17:48:36 GMT -5
Normal people. Just because you desperately want to be liked and accepted by everyone, there's no need to glamorize racial nihilism either. You're reading into something that isn't there, Harri. I'm not glamorizing race-mixing, I'm simply acknowledging the obvious, that it's none of my nor your freakin' business if somebody wants to partake in an interracial relationship.
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Post by harri on Aug 20, 2005 17:49:38 GMT -5
"Mental age" as a variable is probably much more heavily influenced by environment and culture. Of course, we're all a product of generations after generations of adaptation to the surrounding milieu. Different enviroments require different mental characteristcs. The results of this are not turned off in a generation, however. Under proper circumstances, anybody will have to get his act together and stop acting like a child, or suffer the consequences. Of course most people will learn to control themselves when you use The Big Stick enough, but it shouldn't have to be like that to begin with. ( This is the proper place to insert a right-wing rant about the welfare state ) Nothing wrong with the welfare state as per se, but's designed by adults for adults.
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Post by Melnorme on Aug 20, 2005 18:06:10 GMT -5
Hah, I think I see what you're getting at. Different ethnic groups or races requiring different amounts of external 'disciplining' in order to function maturely in a modern society? I suppose it's possible. Maybe in a liberal democracy it shouldn't, but a caste system or millet-type society could handle it.
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Post by cocacola on Aug 20, 2005 19:19:34 GMT -5
I voted for option 5. I dont really care what people do unless they're close to me.
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Post by MC anunnaki on Aug 21, 2005 1:23:33 GMT -5
They do just fine. That immature fits of insanity and creativity is what has propelled many great civilizations. God, that was a good one! ;D
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