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Post by mike2 on Jul 7, 2005 23:04:15 GMT -5
I don't like Bush either. I just think it's unfair to liken him or the entire American state to brutes overseas who would just as soon blow your head off than look at you.
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Post by Crimson Guard on Jul 7, 2005 23:28:13 GMT -5
Mike the Minute Man!
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Post by Drooperdoo on Jul 7, 2005 23:43:31 GMT -5
Mike, If you'll re-read my posts, I said that I wept for my country. I said that America was highjacked by a small band of neo-fascists. I hate that small band--not America. THEY hate America. They're the ones pushing the open-border policy; they're the ones bankrupting the economy; they're the ones betraying US secrets to Israel and China.
So please: I know you're not one of them . . . But please don't twist criticism of Bush and the neocons as "criticism of America". That's what they do. If you criticize their outrageous policies, they try to turn it around and make it like if you don't support them you don't support the troops. It's like the King of France saying Je Sui L'etat. ["I am the state!"] George Bush is NOT the state. To criticize Bush is not to criticize the troops. Yet the equation is always made. I saw one Republican congresswoman on C-Span. She invoked "the troops" 45 times in a 10 minute segment. Whenever anyone criticized HER, she mumbled and hedged and trotted out the rhetoric, "Er . . .uh . . . criticism of me is . . . uh . . . criticism of the troops. Yeah, yeah, the troops!" Bullshit! Republicans say they believe in accountability. [I'm one of the old Republicans who STILL believes in accountability.] Don't dodge behind the troops every time you get busted in a scandal. Cowards!
P.S.--$8.8 BILLION is missing from the funds American tax-payers sent to Iraq. Then there was the torture scandal at Abu Ghraib and other prisons around Iraq and Afghanistan. Then there was Halliburton overcharging US taxpayers into the millions. Now credible evidence is surfacing that pipelines are being built to illegally send oil from Iraq to Israel's Haifa refinery. The estimated amount of the stolen oil? --45 billion a year. Talk about "crude" oil. The scandals keep mounting and mounting--and the spineless crooks in Washington always hide behind the troops if anyone tries to hold them to account. I, for one, am sick of crooks wrapping themselves in the US flag. The flag doesn't belong to them, it belongs to US!
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Post by Ponto Hardbottle on Jul 8, 2005 2:16:35 GMT -5
Droop, it is obvious to me that you are a patriot not a jingoist. The good thing about the States is it has a self correcting mode unlike many other countries.
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Post by topdog on Jul 8, 2005 2:23:31 GMT -5
The USA despite our domestic issues is better off than any European country, Europe has the USA to thank for tipping the scales decisively in two World Wars. The most powerful country in the world is the USA just face it Ponto, you itty-bitty country is insignificant in comparison to the US, does that break your heart?
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