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Post by lurker4now on Jun 12, 2005 13:13:41 GMT -5
because its easy to point the finger.thats why its not rocket science.
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Post by erudite on Jun 12, 2005 13:17:06 GMT -5
because its easy to point the finger.thats why its not rocket science. Point the finger at what, American superiority?
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Post by lurker4now on Jun 12, 2005 13:30:13 GMT -5
because its easy to point the finger.thats why its not rocket science. Point the finger at what, American superiority? i dont know if its superiorty.america isnt superior by any means. what i ment by pointing fingers its just like people who always call out negative/faults of someone else.falling to see there own faults and stuff.(people who point at america and bash them fail to see there own leaders there own countries faults.
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Post by erudite on Jun 12, 2005 13:50:36 GMT -5
Point the finger at what, American superiority? i dont know if its superiorty.america isnt superior by any means. what i ment by pointing fingers its just like people who always call out negative/faults of someone else.falling to see there own faults and stuff.(people who point at america and bash them fail to see there own leaders there own countries faults. Man what are you talking about? You're seriously screwed up. If you read my previous posts in this thread I acknowledged faults in America.
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Post by lurker4now on Jun 12, 2005 14:06:34 GMT -5
i dont know if its superiorty.america isnt superior by any means. what i ment by pointing fingers its just like people who always call out negative/faults of someone else.falling to see there own faults and stuff.(people who point at america and bash them fail to see there own leaders there own countries faults. Man what are you talking about? You're seriously screwed up. If you read my previous posts in this thread I acknowledged faults in America. \ you are just like graeme you just like action/arguing.. im giving my opinion on why they blame america its because its easy to point fingers and say "yes america is this america is that" end of story
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Post by erudite on Jun 12, 2005 14:10:45 GMT -5
Man what are you talking about? You're seriously screwed up. If you read my previous posts in this thread I acknowledged faults in America. \ you are just like graeme you just like action/arguing.. im giving my opinion on why they blame america its because its easy to point fingers and say "yes america is this america is that" end of story How am I like Graeme, I'm not some troll. Your opinion is your opinion however so its all good.
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Post by asdf on Jun 19, 2005 23:54:10 GMT -5
There are 80 million people in Germany. That doesn't mean there are 80 million Germans. Or what am I missing?
You mean like + German Swiss and Austrians. I'm confused.
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Post by nockwasright on Jun 20, 2005 1:13:55 GMT -5
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Post by Toasty on Jun 20, 2005 20:29:35 GMT -5
They are jealous of our unlimited power! AMERICA, f*ck YEAH!!!
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Post by Drooperdoo on Jun 20, 2005 22:06:30 GMT -5
It's funny watching the hypocrisy of Americans asking "Why are Americans so bashed" when it's Americans doing the bashing. Case in point: Only in America would Congress ignore real and pressing issues to bash the French by passing official motions to change the term "french fries" to "liberty fries". Does any other country behave this vindictively and childishly? When the US refuses to agree 100% with any other country, does ANYONE do stuff like this to America? --Of course not. And that is why America is criticized: It's frightening mixture of military might married to intellectual immaturity. As for "bashing" . . . As I said: Produce evidence of any other Western democracy "bashing" America as much as America bashes others--calling the French "cowards" and "surrender-monkeys," referring to Germany and France as "old Europe," "irrelevant," insulting traditional allies, belittling, bullying, etc. It's really very troubling to watch sometimes. Most troubling are the people who think it's the height of patriotism to become apologists for torture, and to wear "I Love Gitmo" T-shirts. The people who never question authority or hold their leaders responsible for anything. To these passive people, questioning the Leader is tantamount to treason. In my lifetime I never thought I'd see the US lurch into a love of goosestepping and fascist military displays---
So it's rather galling to watch certain Americans whine like little girls that people are "bashing" them. Reminds me of the fat bully in a schoolyard who torments and humiliates others, but who begs for our sympathy when he himself is made fun of and cries. He always has a mother on hand who tries to address herself to our loftier sentiments by saying, "He's sensitive." Funny, Mr. Sensitivity has no respect for the sensitivity for others. And, increasingly, this is how the civilized world is viewing America: As the fat bully who beats up and humiliates others, but who demands sympathy for himself.
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Post by Ponto Hardbottle on Jun 21, 2005 1:18:44 GMT -5
My solution to you is simple. Get lost. Who needs you, baby.
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Post by topdog on Jun 21, 2005 1:32:05 GMT -5
Just as I said, Europeans, *some* of them, are jealous of American power and influence in the world do they call it bullying, yet when Europe was doing the *REAL* bullying by colonising Africa and Asia through force no one has any answer to that.
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Post by Ponto Hardbottle on Jun 21, 2005 1:43:16 GMT -5
How ungrateful you lot are! Europeans colonised the Americas. We made you, gave you your traditions, your languages, your religions, the basis of your laws. You lot were not some virgin birth. Guess who assisted you during the Revolutionary wars, the bloody French. It is odd that most place names in the States are English or the English language not many Indian place names. The Africans were fit to be colonised. They were weak, backward, disunified, fighing themselves. Africa may be a crock of shit today, but most of that, they have managed to do all on their own, and it is the outside world that keeps stopping them having yet another genocide or absolving millions of dollars in debt. Your bigotry makes you see things out of your ass.
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Post by topdog on Jun 21, 2005 2:05:39 GMT -5
Guess who assisted you during the Revolutionary wars, the bloody French. And Americans more than returned the favour by liberating Europe[more specifically France] in two World Wars at the expense of of hundreds of thousands of lives lost. If Americans didn't participate in either of the World Wars just imagine what Europe would have been like.. Fit to be colonised by greedy Europeans who wanted to exploit Africa's mineral wealth to enrich itself as well as to have a marketplace to push it cheap goods since Europeans were too busy fighting among themselves with petty rivalries.
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Post by Drooperdoo on Jun 21, 2005 7:05:59 GMT -5
You guys all seem to have ready-made answers. Why ask the question, then, "Why does the world criticize America?" You already have the pre-prepared answer: Because they are all jealous. [Laughter] No, it couldn't be the fact that the US sometimes behaves irresponsibly, that its foreign policy is often contradictory or down-right hypocritical. It couldn't be that the US demands that certain countries abide by UN resolutions, while protecting others from the rule of law. It couldn't be that the US calls itself a peace-maker, while being the world's leading arms-dealer. It couldn't be the unfair trade policies set up by the United States, which gives it an artificial advantage in trade, while keeping the poorest countries poor . . . or the fact that the US demands payment in goods and services while reserving the right for itself to pay ITS debt in worthless fiat currency. Or the fact that the US relies not on free trade or market capitalism to maintain its ascendancy, but--not being able to truly compete--it threatens peaceful nations with military action if they attempt to distance themselves from the plummeting US dollar. While South Africa is bad for its apartheid policies, Israel's apartheid policies are protected by the US and Israel shielded from UN resolutions. (It currently leads the world in UN sanctions and breaches of international law.) But, then again, all these are complicated issues . . . topics that demand real intelligence and thoughtful reflection. So--if you can't command your critical thinking faculties and refuse to risk an honest examination--repeat the mantra: They hate America because . . . er . . uh . . they hate 'freedom'. Yeah, yeah, that's it: They hate us just because they're . . . um . . . jealous!
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