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Post by amksa on May 17, 2005 8:42:10 GMT -5
Thanks about warning. Seems Morocco is one of places where my nerves could be spoiled very easly. I can't endure importunate men. But of course, i would better prefere those insolent Abdullahs and Mamadous that those fat drunk white rapers. BTW could you translate that sentence in french language please? Morocco is a good place to visit, not as dangerous than i said... it's just that moroccan have the reputation to act very nasty with girls, even those who are veiled, under age and not alone : they are shamless with women and have the peculiar ability to fall in love with every each women that they see. the sentence that i wrote in a clumsy French is a cheap imitation of what the imagination and testosterone's couple can product in a sun-burnt male mind, this is the well-known nasty moroccan poetry (declaimed in every human language...) let me find some imaginative and tactful adaptation in English :"Oh, by the name of Allah ! you èrrrrre bioutifoule, louvely gazelle, you look laïke é prostitioute... ksss-ksss !" the "ksss-ksss" sound effect, suggestive and explicit, is primordial.
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Post by zemelmete on May 17, 2005 8:58:46 GMT -5
Morocco is a good place to visit, not as dangerous than i said... it's just that moroccan have the reputation to act very nasty with girls, even those who are veiled, under age and not alone : they are shamless with women and have the peculiar ability to fall in love with every each women that they see. I believe that Morocco is good place to visit I didn't say that i'm scared. Just nasty men annoy me. Well, when i'll be in Morocco, I'll try to take everything with humour. the sentence that i wrote in a clumsy French is a cheap imitation of what the imagination and testosterone's couple can product in a sun-burnt male mind, this is the well-known nasty moroccan poetry (declaimed in every human language...) let me find some imaginative and tactful adaptation in English :"Oh, by the name of Allah ! you èrrrrre bioutifoule, louvely gazelle, you look laïke é prostitioute... ksss-ksss !" the "ksss-ksss" sound effect, suggestive and explicit, is primordial. Seems better to learn french language only after visiting Morocco. Otherways i'll go crazy if i'll understand what they are saying to me.
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Post by nockwasright on May 17, 2005 9:03:56 GMT -5
I wish the old stereotype of the horny Southern European would go away! Let´s say that Southern European are more outgoing when it comes to chatting girls up, but that is not the same as harassment let alone rape. Rape figures are quite low in Spain. This is still one of the safest countries for women to visit, next to the Vatican, of course! I Agree here. Southern Euros (Italians more than Spaniards IMO) are more extrovert and insistent with girls, which can be annoying or pleasing, depending on the girl personality or mood (and on the man looks/style), but actually they are not more dangerous to women that other Europeans. Serious sexual harassment on strangers is almost always perpetrated by drunk deranged persons or gangs, and Southern Euros do not drink that much.
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Post by Circe on May 17, 2005 10:13:55 GMT -5
I Agree here. Southern Euros (Italians more than Spaniards IMO) are more extrovert and insistent with girls, which can be annoying or pleasing, depending on the girl personality or mood (and on the man looks/style), but actually they are not more dangerous to women that other Europeans. Serious sexual harassment on strangers is almost always perpetrated by drunk deranged persons or gangs, and Southern Euros do not drink that much. The same goes for Brazil (I guess probably for South America in general, but I can't vouch for that). You can get showered with compliments - Moroccan style or somewhat more sophisticated - by a complete stranger while waiting for a bus, walking down the street, shoping... well, practically everywhere ;D It is a bit nerve-racking at first, but after some time, you realize that in most cases they are just flirtatious and completely benign, you get used to it and stop seeing a potential rapist in every man that starts chatting you up... The only thing I still don't really feel comfortable with is butt-ogling which seems to be a national pastime...
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Post by zemelmete on May 17, 2005 10:20:28 GMT -5
The only thing I still don't really feel comfortable with is butt-ogling which seems to be a national pastime... Butt-ogling? That's crazy !
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Post by Josh on May 17, 2005 10:21:48 GMT -5
I've been treated with far more respect by the Southern Europeans than by some drunken, short, fat white Finns, though. Really, I've now been molested physically three Saturdays in row. I guess I should start going out with more intimidating looking peope than I currently do. Tell the metalhead friends that you have that they should go Varg Vikernes on the short fat drunken molesters . I'm sure they'll know what you mean.
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Post by nockwasright on May 17, 2005 10:34:24 GMT -5
Butt-ogling? That's crazy ! Seriously you are so surprised? Even women do that, ever watched Sex and the City? Plus must be underlined that women have best peripheral sight, so they are advantaged in ogling without being noticed. You baad girls.
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Post by zemelmete on May 17, 2005 10:47:25 GMT -5
Seriously you are so surprised? Even women do that, ever watched Sex and the City? In Sex and the City were many things which aren't really accepted here. I live in quite puritanic country.
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Post by nockwasright on May 17, 2005 10:56:35 GMT -5
For example several years I singed in mixed choir. We often (both girls and guys) dressed in one room before/after concerts. Nobody was specially looking each to other. Guys didn't show any interest if some girl was undressed and was almost completely naked. I guess in some other cultures that would be incredible. Doesn't look like a puritan country to me. Maybe "mischievousness" is not tolerated in man/women relationship in your country, I guess this is the difference.
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Post by Circe on May 17, 2005 11:19:08 GMT -5
Plus must be underlined that women have best peripheral sight, so they are advantaged in ogling without being noticed. You baad girls. I bet you guys envy us on that one As for this: Actually many things are under cultural environment. For example several years I singed in mixed choir. We often (both girls and guys) dressed in one room before/after concerts. Nobody was specially looking each to other. Guys didn't show any interest if some girl was undressed and was almost completely naked. I guess in some other cultures that would be incredible. I remember a hostel I stayed once in - the crowd was "coed" and pretty international (a Brazilian, some Japanese, a Danish couple, 2 Swedish girls, 2 guys from Portugal, some Scots, a South African guy, 2 Australian girls...), and I noticed that Northern/Western Europeans were totally cool and disinterested when the girls started changing into their nighties, which was quite surprising for me... Guess who had problems keeping their eyes in their sockets ;D
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Post by Ponto Hardbottle on May 17, 2005 11:23:16 GMT -5
I am not a butt ogler but I have to confess to losing my train of thought or walking into a lamppost when I see a shapely pair of mammae. I think most men are like that.
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Post by nockwasright on May 17, 2005 11:36:06 GMT -5
I am not a butt ogler but I have to confess to losing my train of thought or walking into a lamppost when I see a shapely pair of mammae. I think most men are like that. As Woody Allen said, "I could never be a woman, I'd spend all my life touching my b**bs"
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Post by henerte on May 17, 2005 11:36:34 GMT -5
I am not a butt ogler but I have to confess to losing my train of thought or walking into a lamppost when I see a shapely pair of mammae. I think most men are like that. Not really. I'm not (if anyone cares about my opinion). Whenever I turn on my TV or open a newspaper I see half-naked ladies advertising shampoos, cars, bank credits...I'm afraid to open my fridge...It all makes me highly apathetic to butt-ogling.
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Post by Circe on May 17, 2005 11:39:59 GMT -5
Butt-oggling.. hehe.. I think it's a national pastime everywhere. Guys do it here in the states.. they just don't turn their heads but make their eyes look side-ways and are quick in turning away before getting caught hehehe than it doesn't qualify as ogling I don't mind furtive looks I'm not aware of, but feeling someone's eyes burning a hole in your backside (sometimes accompanied by unarticulated sounds) is far from pleasant Not really. I'm not (if anyone cares about my opinion). Whenever I turn on my TV or open a newspaper I see half-naked ladies advertising shampoos, cars, bank credits... I'm afraid to open my fridgeWhy? Don't you like Greenaway? ;D but as for the aggressive advertising you're quite right... Sometimes they want consumer's attention so badly that the commercials cross the boundaries of good taste...
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Post by Circe on May 17, 2005 11:50:50 GMT -5
So what happened to those Japanese guys when the girls started to change into their nighties.. I'm curious as to how my bruthas behave.. Well they don't fall in North/West European group, do they? but at the same time the Japanese girl was the shyest of all... she talked very quietly, was mildly disgusted by everything, especially the men, and overall was quite introvert... she was even covering her mouth when smiling so as not to show her teeth...
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