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Post by KLI on Mar 13, 2005 14:13:03 GMT -5
www.stormfront.org/whitehistory/hwr8.htmIm showing that just like theres crazy black folk who wish the Hebrews were black...theres also crazy white folk who wish the Pharaohs were Teutonic warriors from up north LOL. Lets discuss
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Post by alexandrian on Mar 13, 2005 14:16:37 GMT -5
Both sides are equally wrong. Nordicists are no different from Afrocentrists.
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Post by mike2 on Mar 13, 2005 14:19:00 GMT -5
LOL... Teutonic Pharaohs from the north... can any of you help but laugh?
BEHOLD, EGYPT! MIGHTY NORDIC DESERT EMPIRE!
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Post by Igu on Mar 13, 2005 14:27:11 GMT -5
www.stormfront.org/whitehistory/hwr8.htmIm showing that just like theres crazy black folk who wish the Hebrews were black...theres also crazy white folk who wish the Pharaohs were Teutonic warriors from up north LOL. Lets discuss If the web-site replaces nordic with caucasoid, i'd agree 100% with it, you blacks did nothing there. and what does the web-site is not as grave as what afrocentrists do, the afrocentrists speak about a total different race than that of modern egypt, stormfront speaks about nordic and mediterranid features, not too far from reality.
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Post by mike2 on Mar 13, 2005 14:43:43 GMT -5
Mujahid is far from being a "you black." The race he belongs to is very distinct. ![>:(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/angry.png)
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Post by Igu on Mar 13, 2005 14:55:11 GMT -5
Mujahid is far from being a "you black." The race he belongs to is very distinct. ![>:(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/angry.png) My message wasn't directed towards him specifically, but (out of subject) I guess he identifies as black, ethiopians don't.
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Post by mike2 on Mar 13, 2005 14:58:36 GMT -5
True. I once read that "the US intended to send a negro ambassador to Ethiopia; this would have been a hideous faux pas, and luckily did not happen."
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Post by KLI on Mar 13, 2005 15:03:32 GMT -5
My message wasn't directed towards him specifically, but (out of subject) I guess he identifies as black, ethiopians don't. I idnentify myself as black obviously because I am darkskinned. Though my blackness gets questioned by both black and white people due to my facial features...I like to keep things real. However, I do not see any affinity with West, Central or South African bantu types, nor do they with me.
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Post by Minstrel on Mar 13, 2005 15:13:05 GMT -5
Hmmm, that is a rather innaccurate statement. We owe our existence as modern humans to SSA migrators. And egypt did receive much gene flow in the south.
Africans migrated all across the world 80,000 years ago. Europeans and asians are relatively young groups. However you look at it, Egypt was still an african civilization in the broadest sense of the term.
If mujahid belongs to a separate race, I suppose the spanish and swedes are separate races as well?
What is "black"? It there such a thing as a "true" black? Nonsense. "black" people come in many shapes and sizes. West africans and bantu's are not "true" blacks, they are a recent groups themselves.
A "true" black would actually be a bushman or a pygmy. The oldest anatomically human groups in the world.
"Faux pas"? "Hideous"? How so?
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Post by Igu on Mar 13, 2005 15:26:23 GMT -5
Hmmm, that is a rather innaccurate statement. We owe our existence as modern humans to SSA migrators. And egypt did receive much gene flow in the south. Africans migrated all across the world 80,000 years ago. Europeans and asians are relatively young groups. However you look at it, Egypt was still an african civilization in the broadest sense of the term. If mujahid belongs to a separate race, I suppose the spanish and swedes are separate races as well? What is "black"? It there such a thing as a "true" black? Nonsense. "black" people come in many shapes and sizes. West africans and bantu's are not "true" blacks, they are a recent groups themselves. A "true" black would actually be a bushman or a pygmy. The oldest anatomically human groups in the world. "Faux pas"? "Hideous"? How so? Old afrocentrist propaganda, the pure Negroid (Black) type is in west africa, in southern africa they are not 100% negroid because mixed with Bushman (they are short and many resemble bushmen, just look to to mandela), in the sahel they are mixed with berbers (25%), in east africa they are mixed with a previous type. please, do not speak about africans as if they constitute a people, speak about race or don't. I'm a white african and I feel closer to a chinese than to a cultural black Sub-saharan. Stop steeling other's people achivement. Be proud in life ministrel, I'm sure you can.
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Post by Igu on Mar 13, 2005 15:29:37 GMT -5
look how the negroid type eradicated and expanded in Africa: ![](http://img176.exs.cx/img176/8281/africahistory8lh.jpg)
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Post by nordicyouth on Mar 13, 2005 15:42:06 GMT -5
First of all, humanity did not descend from the Negroid race. Esoteric knowledge points not only to: (a) that cro-magnon was created by extra-terrestrials, but (b), that different alien groups may have been responsible for each of the different races - evidently evolution continued from then on. Secondly, Visigoths were present in North Africa until their defeat by Byzantine forces during Justinian's ill-fated attempt to reclaim the fallen Western Roman Empire. Thus, Visigoths are the ancient Aegyptians. Nordic name Aege = Aegypt. ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) Napoleon, another Nordic leader conquered Egypt, and Rommel nearly accomplished the same thing. Overall, Egypt was dominated by the British, which are Nordic due to the influx of Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Norse, and of course, the remnants of Troy. ;D
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Post by Minstrel on Mar 13, 2005 15:42:48 GMT -5
I never said they were'nt pure negroid phenotypically, they are what we get the definition "negroid" from. What I said is that they are a relatively recent group, they are not ancient and they have predecessors such as pygmies.
Some west africans, however such as some senegalese and fulani, and ghanians do not fit the stereotypical look.
Huh? You problably, like alexandrian, have a bias of SS africans, as many north africans do and thats fine,thats your opinion, if thats what you meant by that statement.
That is frankly, impossible. I cannot steal others acheivements, it's like "stealing" a person's education.
And furthermore modern-day people "claiming" and riding off the accomplishments of people who look like them is just as absurd as anything nordicists of afrocentrists can throw at you. They had nothing to do with those civilizations, they are living today.
As I have said before, SS african have much heritage to be proud of, and I have criticised both afrocentrists and eurocentrists alike. The notion that SSA's have no history is a fallacy.
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Post by Minstrel on Mar 13, 2005 15:44:28 GMT -5
First of all, humanity did not descend from the Negroid race. Esoteric knowledge points not only to: (a) that cro-magnon was created by extra-terrestrials, but (b), that different alien groups may have been responsible for each of the different races - evidently evolution continued from then on. Secondly, Visigoths were present in North Africa until their defeat by Byzantine forces during Justinian's ill-fated attempt to reclaim the fallen Western Roman Empire. Thus, Visigoths are the ancient Aegyptians. Nordic name Aege = Aegypt. ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) Napoleon, another Nordic leader conquered Egypt, and Rommel nearly accomplished the same thing. Overall, Egypt was dominated by the British, which are Nordic due to the influx of Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Norse, and of course, the remnants of Troy. ;D .......................................Okay.....somebody has a fertile imagination.
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Post by mike2 on Mar 13, 2005 15:49:39 GMT -5
If mujahid belongs to a separate race, I suppose the spanish and swedes are separate races as well? Swedes and Spanish are both Caucasians, different branches on the same Caucasoid tree. The Ethiopians, Somalis, Bejas, and other Cushitic-speaking peoples are for the most part hybridized Atlanto-Mediterranean and Congoid populations. They are intermediate. This is completely in alignment with the Afro-Asiatic migration. I'm not playing down the Congoid element of the Aethiopids, nor am I saying they are a separate race. They are just distinct in the same way Lapps are distinct from other Europeans. They are by no means simply black or white. They are their own thing. A composite. Mujahid seeing himself as black is purely social. What is "black"? It there such a thing as a "true" black? Nonsense. "black" people come in many shapes and sizes. West africans and bantu's are not "true" blacks, they are a recent groups themselves. A "true" black would actually be a bushman or a pygmy. The oldest anatomically human groups in the world. There seems to be confusion about what "black" means. I only use black as a synonym for Congoid in the same way I use white as a synonym for Caucasoid. Australian aborigines, Hottentots, and Bushmen are not Congoids and therefore I do not call them blacks, regardless of their skin color. If you went by skin color, you could certainly call all these peoples black, but it's only a superficial connection. They are separate races from each other. Australian aborigines are Australoids and Bushmen and Hottentots are Capoids. They are not related to black Africans/Congoids anymore than Caucasoids are related to Mongoloids. Linking these people together as one black race is purely social and not based on physical anthropology. It's the same deal with Arabs. These people aren't the whitest-looking folk on the block, yet they are still Caucasoid, so therefore they are still white. You are right about African pygmies being black, though, because they are indeed Congoids. West Africans, Bantus, Sudanids, and Nilotes are all Congoids. When we talk of blacks, we are talking about them. It's true that "blacks" come in all shapes and sizes but we shouldn't confuse unrelated or distinct peoples just because they happen to share superficial characteristics like black skin or woolly hair. The skeleton and now genetics are the best tools we have available for classification. "Faux pas"? "Hideous"? How so? I was quoting the author of a book called "Inside Africa." He related that most Ethiopians (especially the Amharas) considered themselves separate from their Negro neighbors and that sending a Negro ambassador would have offended them because it would be like the U.S. is saying that the Ethiopians are in the same racial league as other black Africans.
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