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Post by Kame on Feb 10, 2005 0:20:54 GMT -5
I am not denying the incidence of such, I am saying certain races or groups of people are'nt inherently predisposed to crime. And yes, in terms of gross numbers, not percentage, more crimes are actualy committed by whites in America.
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Post by Berter on Feb 10, 2005 9:16:39 GMT -5
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Post by Berter on Feb 10, 2005 13:11:55 GMT -5
Which is exactly why most people in Europe care far more about Egypt and regard Morroccans and Tunisians as ignorant immigrants. Thats absolutely not true. You should make comparison between the same category of immigrants. There are illeterate NWAs in Europe as there are highly educated ones. You cannot campare a country-man moroccan immigrant from Italy to a 2nd generation, well educated egyptian from UK. We ABSOLUTELY dont care for that and thats not a privilege, at all. Why have you resorted to peace, If you were so GREAT! You got a point here . It was probably choosen out of all the bidders cause of its least quality/cost rate. Thats the criterion used over here (NWA). ;D Igu meant 'mauvais gens', 'gens de mauvaise qualité', 'gens paresseux' ...etc. He thinks in french and translates into english, as I do .
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Post by Berter on Feb 10, 2005 13:35:31 GMT -5
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Post by Igu on Feb 10, 2005 13:40:26 GMT -5
Which is exactly why most people in Europe care far more about Egypt and regard Morroccans and Tunisians as ignorant immigrants. That's why the Arab League is centered in Cairo and that's why we are brokering peace deals. That's why we built the pyramids. That's why it is an Egyptian company that owns the telecom rights to "great" Tunisia. Because we're not good quality people? What the hell is that supposed to mean? -It is supposed to mean that your country is politically and culturally a parasite, you transformed Algeria into a caricatural egypt, much more uglier than modern Egypt, you injected all your garbage : Pan-arabism, Islamism and socialism. Your "elite" destroyed Every single drop of knowledge that existed in Algeria.. you sucked it up to death, Algeria was ranked number one of Africa in the 60's and 70's in the field of education... what have you done? what is the situation now? an Algerian of the 70's who stopped his studies in high school is much more educated than a modern Algerian who has a phd (You call them Douktour, right? a donkey is more intelligent than all your douktours!). -Djezzy (tunisia, Algeria) is another egyptian parasite, do you know how they invest in Algeria? by loans from the National algerian bank! -Egypt is surviving because USA want them to survive, Israel must be protected, giving some peanuts is not a problem for USA. -Tunisia/morocco are the result of their own work, their streets are clean and their people are not ignorant, your people can't keep up with them, and algerians can't even compete with their masters: the egyptians! -you really disppoint me, You act like a docile dhimmi, if your people are like you, they really deserve their doom.
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Post by Berter on Feb 10, 2005 14:01:57 GMT -5
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Post by BioMan on Feb 10, 2005 15:12:21 GMT -5
As a man of science and NOT A RACIST, I must say that Africans are actually genetically much more LIKELY to commit crimes then the other races. Im not going base this on stereotypes because its provable although very very taboo. I would never say such a thing in public even with zounds of scientific fact. But I can say it here since a mob of angry people wont clobber me. Note: I hate those idiots at stormfront nor am I a racist, but you still cant ignore scientific fact. People hundreds of years ago thought it was taboo to claim that the earth was round. It was eventually accepted though because scientific fact always wins in the end. The same should be accepted about the differences amongst races.
Fact 1: Blacks have about 20-30% more testosterone then whites do. Proven, can be found in various scientific journals and even explains why blacks excel at sports.
Fact 2: High amounts of testosterone leads to aggressiveness and urge for total dominance. This can be bad when your attempting team work. Its also bad because it leads to fights, desire of fighting and lust. For example in the animal world elephant males obtain colored spots during the mating season. This is because testosterone levels are their highest at this point. During this time they fight and mate as much as often. Higher testosterone is also one reason why steroid abuse leads to anger and violence. Blacks however have much higher levels. This is why they are much more easily tempered, wanting dominance, much more likely to rape and kill etc.
Fact 3: High Testosterone can be a good thing, it can make you very confident and also make you look imposing to your enemies. These are all benefits ONLY IF YOU CAN CONTROL YOURSELF. Amongst the races though Blacks have the hardest time controlling their emotions or their actions. The biggest reason behind this is because of intelligence difference.
Fact 4: This is subject that is very very taboo. Blacks are not as intelligent on average as whites and Asians. Average IQ of African is 70. Average IQ of African Americans(most African Americans happen to be partially white) is 85. Average white IQ in America is 100. Average Asian Americans IQ is about 110(only if you exclude less intelligent asian races like Fillipinos). SO what does IQ have to do with crime? Well it has 2 big effects.
A. Smart people are much more likely to make smart decisions wheras the opposite is true for less intelligent people. That’s why Africans are much more likely to be caught doing someone bad/stupid.
B. Smart people are much more successful in society. Less intelligent folks however arnt as successful. Because of this, many resort to crime just to get money.
C. Smart people usually choose better and more nurturing environments to live in. Not only that but they also make the environment they are in much more nurturing as well. Less intelligent folks create a less nurturing environment. Compare Asian and Black ghettos in the US. Asian ghettos are thriving and safe and you see people of all races there. Black ghettos are stereotyped as dangerous, full of drugs and gangs etc. Even blacks talk about how horrible it is.
Fact 5: Parenting skills even have genetic factors. Amongst the races Asians are the most altruistic while blacks are the least. Asian parents are much more likely to sacrafice themselves for there children then black. In black families in the US there is a huge growing number of single parent families. Usually the father being absent(the father is either in jail or has run away from responsibility). Not only that but higher IQ parents make better choices for their children as well as give them a much more nurting environment.
Now then I might seem like a racist but I can prove all of this. And against im not a racist. I have several black friends and I know that there are intelligent blacks in this world. Several are much more intelligent then I am and id gladly want to learn or work with them. However amongst the races however Blacks are the least likely to have those kind of people.
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Post by BioMan on Feb 10, 2005 15:15:10 GMT -5
Also Im not saying that blacks are doomed to crime and illegitamte child birth. Im just saying thats its much more likely than other races.
Also I still believe that African can be peaceful and live on its own. Not as perfect as other societies nor will Africa likely to be as powerful economically as those countries but still its better than the current situation.
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Post by Melnorme on Feb 10, 2005 15:16:19 GMT -5
'Blacks have more testosterone' is not a sound explanation. It may not be true at all for African blacks ( as opposed to African-Americans ).
Better to go down directly to the neuron or gene-level then muck around with hormones.
Actually, I'm not sure black people are genetically doomed to criminality at all. Before the 1960's, African-Americans had lower crime rates than modern-day white Americans. Culture matters.
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Post by Human on Feb 10, 2005 15:20:55 GMT -5
culture matters a lot on this respect.
i would also like to add that the psycothic troubled criminal caucasian can be much more lethal than some blacks who like to rob purse, etc. theres a vast forensic literature about the propensity of troubled male caucasoids to turn into serial killers. criminal caucasoids can be much more dangerous than blacks...
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Post by BioMan on Feb 10, 2005 15:32:59 GMT -5
Testosterone is not a cultural thing I can tell you that for sure. Blacks naturally have more testosterone on average than the other races, it’s a genetic thing. Im not sure about the crime thing in the 1960s(I thought it should be higher since white police abused the system and trails were unfair to blacks back then), can you find a link?
Also another point is that amongst the three races Africans average the smallest brain size and cranial capacity. This is strange because if race was a social construct then blacks should have the largest brain(taller people have larger brains because they need to control a larger body, being tall doesn’t make you smarter). However even though blacks are the heaviest and tallest amongst american averages they still average the smallest cranial size. Asians are the shortest and lightest yet the average the largest brain and cranial size. Anyways if you want a link on this I can give it to you. Or you can even read the book the G-factor(I believe that’s what its called).
as for serial killers, they are much more different then petty criminals or gangs.
Intelligence plays a factor in some of the most heinous of crimes. Some of the most successful and deadly criminals were in fact erratic geniuses. So in a sense, yes sometimes the other races are much more deadly when it comes to things like this.
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Post by Melnorme on Feb 10, 2005 15:39:15 GMT -5
Blacks naturally have more testosterone on average than the other races, it’s a genetic thing. You're saying this like it's a fact, but I'm not sure that it is. I think it's been proven for African-Americans vs. European-Americans, but not for 'Negroes' in general.
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Post by BioMan on Feb 10, 2005 15:43:17 GMT -5
Well maybe not for all blacks in general but like you said definatly for African Americans.
I mean I doubt African 4-5 foot Pygmies will have lots of testosterone but im speaking in general here. Asians in general have high IQs but not all Asians. Fillipinos for example have IQs around the hispanic level(in the low 90s).
But then that testosterone boost had to come from somewhere when African Americans were born. And it surely wasnt from the white side since they average lower testosterone levels.
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Post by alexandrian on Feb 10, 2005 18:07:58 GMT -5
-It is supposed to mean that your country is politically and culturally a parasite, you transformed Algeria into a caricatural egypt, much more uglier than modern Egypt, you injected all your garbage : Pan-arabism, Islamism and socialism. Your "elite" destroyed Every single drop of knowledge that existed in Algeria.. you sucked it up to death, Algeria was ranked number one of Africa in the 60's and 70's in the field of education... what have you done? what is the situation now? an Algerian of the 70's who stopped his studies in high school is much more educated than a modern Algerian who has a phd (You call them Douktour, right? a donkey is more intelligent than all your douktours!). -Djezzy (tunisia, Algeria) is another egyptian parasite, do you know how they invest in Algeria? by loans from the National algerian bank! -Egypt is surviving because USA want them to survive, Israel must be protected, giving some peanuts is not a problem for USA. -Tunisia/morocco are the result of their own work, their streets are clean and their people are not ignorant, your people can't keep up with them, and algerians can't even compete with their masters: the egyptians! -you really disppoint me, You act like a docile dhimmi, if your people are like you, they really deserve their doom. How are you comparing Egypt to algeria? They are not the same place. If our doctors are so ignorant, why are Egyptians the best educated ethnic group in America. Why do we have higher per capita salaries in America and Western Europe than NWAs. Name a single NWA Nobel Prize Winner. If you are going to disagree that Egyptians in France get more respect than Maghrebians, than you haven't visited France. I could go on and on but I'm running out of time. Egyptians are much more successful than NWas when they immigrate, Egyptians have more respect in the wider world, and Egypt has made more contributions to modernity, especially in the Middle East, than Morrocco and Tunisia could dream of doing. Don't hate. Appreciate.
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Post by Kame on Feb 10, 2005 19:21:54 GMT -5
You are a man of psuedoscience, ignorance and superstition. A remeniscence of the 1900's racial anthropology. Oh yes, there must be a "crime" gene that somehow only blacks have, that gives them the inescapable urge to rob somebody. Oh it must be anything other than just pure, old-fashioned, human greed. What differeneces? You have no premises othan than faulty assumptions and stereotypes. If you want to atleast sound more scientific then post stormfront-related links or something. So blacks excel in swimming, polo, car racing and hockey? Umm no. Try again. Well if I did'nt get much nutrition, education, or child developement in my earlier years, I'd think I'd be pretty dumb too. Thats is incredibly simplistic. "smart people are more successful". Most of the really "smart" people are actually savants, meaning they excell mostly in just one thing. I know some who are anti-social and can't even tie their own shoes. But they kick-ass in math or music. In general, asian-americans and american blacks have totally different value systems. Many asians follow a confucian ideology which stresses harmony and obedience, and have come from families which are hard on them for studies. I know two middle-class, korean-american and chinese -american guys who always jank stuff from stores, counterfeit money and shit. Crime has nothing to do with race. It's just unfortunate that blacks receive the most bad press. On top of that ever hear of some the hideous crimes committed by youth in Japan? Some of that stuff you would be scared to even read about. I know shitloads of smart black people. Especially Africans. Black americans just don't think it's "cool" to act smart. They think is acting 'white' and they'll get dogged If they say smart things around their black friends. I'm black and my IQ's around 133 according to an online IQ test.
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