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Post by topdog on Feb 26, 2005 19:04:27 GMT -5
Hey, I'm just happy that nobody is claiming Egyptians are West African Negroes. A mulatto or East African vs. dark Caucasian argument is much better. East Africans are neither mulattoes nor dark `Caucasians´.
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Post by mike2 on Feb 26, 2005 19:46:39 GMT -5
Fine, then I shall rephrase: Caucasoid-Congoid hybrid type. Much more scientific.
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Post by alexandrian on Feb 26, 2005 22:59:47 GMT -5
There is no time delay with me, this is business ;D egyptian kids Jason kidd (black/white) notice the same sort of milky complexion, very common is mulattos recent euro-admixed blacks. brazilian children egyptian children traces of blond can be found fairly commonly among mulattoes and many mixed brazilians in general, as in the egyptian child on the right. Notice the same brownish-pumpkin complexion. Brazilians are an interesting people. Very beautiful and phenotypically varied. I've seen mulattoes with straight, blond hair but more african features as well as the opposite. As any american or african-american and I will guarantee they would say that most of those people look intermediate, mixed or have disatant african ancestry. I can tell by their hair and other subtle features that they are of genuine partial african heritage. The race "classifiers" would probably give you the same rap as well. I don't get why you chose these two pics...you could've used some of Shenuda's old pics to find people with more Negroid blood....in the first pic, I don't see very much Negroid blood at all..and a comparison to Jason Kidd is a bad example because Kidd clearly has more Caucasian blood and he would stand out in any part of sub-Sahran Africa whereas he'd fit in in the Middle East. In the first pic they all have relatively light skin, overhwlemingly Caucasian features, and hair thats mostly straight with the exception of the guy in the front, whose hair still isn't Negroid Nappy. The fact of the matter is that those kids in the front would stand out greatly in the Horn of Africa, whereas they'd fit in remarkably well in any other part of the Middle East or North Africa. I know they'd stand out if they ever visited black ghettoes and I doubt they'd be grouped with blacks in America, especially looking at the kids in the background... As for the bottom pic, I see absolutely no Negroid features on the kid to the right, he is practically the epitome of a Caucasian. If he was born into a wealthy family and didn't have such a tan, he would have had no trouble blending in to any part of the Mediterranean. The kid on the left definitely has negroid admixture, I'll give you that, but I don't think its predominant.
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Post by alexandrian on Feb 26, 2005 23:00:51 GMT -5
Brazilians are an interesting people. Very beautiful and phenotypically varied. Well, at least we can agree here I definitely like Brazilian chicks...Alessandra Ambrosio is an angel of God
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Post by alexandrian on Feb 26, 2005 23:11:05 GMT -5
Some pics of Egyptians: At a Coptic church: Another picture of egyptians: A protest at Cairo University: AT a coffee shop in Cairo: great representation of Egyptians: All of the above have a typically Middle Eastern look and would stand out greatly in East AFrica and fit in in almost any part of the Middle East, for some of them, Mediterranean too
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Post by topdog on Feb 27, 2005 1:47:28 GMT -5
Fine, then I shall rephrase: Caucasoid-Congoid hybrid type. Much more scientific. East Africans aren't Congoid-Caucasoid hybrids either buddy, sorry.
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Post by mike2 on Feb 27, 2005 2:09:44 GMT -5
East Africans aren't Congoid-Caucasoid hybrids either buddy, sorry. And all genetic, physical anthropologic, linguistic, and common sense evidence is against your opinion that they weren't, buddy. Sorry.
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Post by topdog on Feb 27, 2005 2:15:51 GMT -5
And all genetic, physical anthropologic, linguistic, and common sense evidence is against your opinion that they weren't, buddy. Sorry. Sorry buddy, everything you've just said hasn't proved that East Africans are hybrid Congoid-Caucasians. Sorry, I was just engaging a poster from a different message board about this www.egyptsearch.com/forums/Forum8/HTML/001611.htmlI believe that Evil Euro is racial reality.
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Post by mike2 on Feb 27, 2005 2:18:11 GMT -5
I wouldn't touch Egypt Search with a ten foot pole. That place reeks of black folk unwilling to come to grips with the simple truth that the ancient Egyptians weren't any more Congoid than I am. It's obvious you've come here to parrot their Afrocentric theories and I bid thee good luck because nobody's going to buy that crap here.
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Post by topdog on Feb 27, 2005 2:35:11 GMT -5
I wouldn't touch Egypt Search with a ten foot pole. That place reeks of black folk unwilling to come to grips with the simple truth that the ancient Egyptians weren't any more Congoid than I am. It's obvious you've come here to parrot their Afrocentric theories and I bid thee good luck because nobody's going to buy that crap here. Don't attempt to poison the well, most of what I've seen you post here sure doesn't fall into the objective category and it is based on outdated anthropology. If you observe what I was posting in particular, you will see that my conclusions were based on published data from journals, none of which say that East Africans are Congoid-Caucasian mixes.
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Post by alexandrian on Feb 27, 2005 2:40:21 GMT -5
I wouldn't touch Egypt Search with a ten foot pole. That place reeks of black folk unwilling to come to grips with the simple truth that the ancient Egyptians weren't any more Congoid than I am. It's obvious you've come here to parrot their Afrocentric theories and I bid thee good luck because nobody's going to buy that crap here. haha....Amen!....that board is disgusting...and the people are so close-minded...just sad losers with no lives and no past to cling to....
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Post by topdog on Feb 27, 2005 2:48:42 GMT -5
haha....Amen!....that board is disgusting...and the people are so close-minded...just sad losers with no lives and no past to cling to.... People here aren't exactly open-minded either- that is to people other than white.
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Post by Kame on Feb 27, 2005 21:57:33 GMT -5
Your talking about Stormfront? ;D
yeah, you have to be prepared for that. Any site that still quote carlton coon as an authoritative source might make one think they could have an agenda.......of the eurocentric variety.... ;D
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Post by mike2 on Feb 27, 2005 23:25:40 GMT -5
Hey, now, be nice. Carlton S. Coon was a damned good anthropologist for his day. He was wrong about not too few things but most of his classifications still hold up today. I would definitely be more inclined to quote Coon or Angel than Diop or Asante.
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Post by Faelcind on Feb 27, 2005 23:32:11 GMT -5
I have to dissagree with you again on this mike. Coon was not a damn fine anthropologist and his theories are laughable. Coon was celebrity anthropology in his time and still big authority for racist groups(not entirely his fault). However his classifications were among the most extreme and ridiculous of the race splitters and based on premises that have been thoroughly debunked. The idea that biological diversity could be confined to such small units as he purposed is completely at odds with the modern systematics.
He was conterversial in his day and biological anthropologist who have come after have extensively criticized his methodology. You can't really argue that coon was better then his contemporaries or predescesors just more famous.
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