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Post by AWAR on Apr 11, 2004 5:03:19 GMT -5
Ireland is also refered to as 'Hibernia', right?
I'm sure that this 'artist' had no knowledge of that, but I got to mention that the UP types common in Ireland originated in Northern Africa and subsequently spread through Iberia into western and even central Europe.
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Post by Milesian on Apr 11, 2004 5:56:25 GMT -5
Yes, that was one of the ancient names for Ireland. Hibernia was the Roman name and although I can't speak Latin, I assume it comes from the same root word as "Hibernation", thus inferring a cold, wintery place.
True, Cro-Magnids did indeed migrate from Nothern Africa
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Post by Arawn on May 11, 2004 9:55:28 GMT -5
I would imagine a great many of those 'celts' are actualy yanks.
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Post by AWAR on May 11, 2004 11:33:06 GMT -5
I would imagine a great many of those 'celts' are actualy yanks. That's an interesting observation ;D Hello Arawn, nice to see you return.
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Post by Vitor on May 21, 2004 8:38:18 GMT -5
English are the most close relative to the irish people... (in europe) they are betraying their own people Now you see, ignorance is the big cause of all the evil in the world!
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Post by BVONAPARTE on May 21, 2004 14:50:37 GMT -5
Hmm, I have quite a few Irish relatives that live in England. I think they moved to England because they claimed "There was nothing to do in Ireland." I would rather live in Ireland than England. I reminds me of Turks all over the place just the fact that they live there. England has their own brand of TWIX(candy bar) and they taste different than the American ones. It has a cheesy quote on the label as well "Good with your tea" some phrase that goes hand and hand with tea.
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Post by Scoob on Jun 16, 2004 23:34:27 GMT -5
I believe it was Iberians who built the famous megaliths in the British Isles. In other words, dark Mediterranid types.
I saw previews for the new movie about King Arthur. Looks like they chose dark Iberian types to play the Celts, and Nordic / E Baltic to be the Vikings - so very interesting.
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Post by skord on Jun 16, 2004 23:55:04 GMT -5
dark Iberian types to play the Celts Weren't they the ones that brought the Celtic languages to the Isles? Vikings? I assume you mean the Angles and Saxons
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Post by Melnorme on Jun 17, 2004 7:13:31 GMT -5
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Post by Phrederick on Jun 17, 2004 23:40:45 GMT -5
The UK has the highest number of red heads on the planet.
Just thought I'd throw in that fact.
Also, the Royal Family of England is German (well, part German). They changed their name from Saxe-Coburg-Gotha (German name) to Windsor (Anglo sounding name) when World War 1 broke out. Anti-german sentiment was running rampant in the Anglo-world at the time. (In St. Louis Missouri, Americans went around lynching Germans and German-Americans)
The English have a long history of being extremely racist even towards other europeans.
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Post by Sandwich on Jun 18, 2004 6:19:20 GMT -5
Yes German. Before that Dutch, before that Scottish, before that Welsh, before that French, before that Norman. The last ENGLISH king was Harold, who died at Hastings in 1066. No Irish King yet, Was Ireland the richer when colonised by England? I'd be surprised. Elizabethan England had become very wealthy due to the wool trade. Is red hair a feature of the Iberian peninsula too? Could this relate to the Neanderthal graves discovered at Abrigo do Lagar Velho.
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Post by Graeme on Jun 19, 2004 11:26:36 GMT -5
This anti-Irish prejudice was quite a while back and from memory mostly in the USA and not in England itself. It is normal for locals to resent newcomers and the Irish did immigrate across the Irish sea in large numbers to Liverpool and Glasgow. In Scotland if you scratched a Scot some Irish would show, and I am not talking about the Scotti or Dalriada, I am talking about Irish who came over in the 19th and 20th century. In parts of England there are many descendents of Irish immigrants. Irish surnames are not uncommon, like Kelly, Murphy or Ryan. If they hated them so much why did the locals jump into wedlock and the bed with them so often.
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Post by xxx on Jun 20, 2004 13:40:40 GMT -5
The funniest part of these grotesque cartoons is that they were depictions made by the Anglo-Saxons who are, by the way, the fathers of the spawn known as nordicism, and who incidentally need to resort to Irish or Scottish Atlantid (Mediterranid) types to be able to present a good looking actor to represent them.
To hell with them all.
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Post by galvez on Jun 20, 2004 22:53:47 GMT -5
The Irish have been "attacked" (internet conversations really aren't attacks; maybe more like virtual attacks) because they allegedly have not produced as many scientists and "thinkers" as, say, England, Scotland or other European groups.
The fact is that not all nations, for whatever reason, have produced an equal number of eminent men in all areas. This is natural given different traits and environments. On the other hand, it's immensely oversimplistic to claim one nation to be inferior to another based on such a "statistical" point of view. Normal, intelligent people -- no matter the nation -- treat others as individuals, not as representatives of Kant, Newton, Aristotle, or Galileo. The person who is in a major rush to claim such eminent men is probably compensating because he has not demonstrated any personal merit: this is one reason why Ku Klux Klan and other racialist types tend to be among the most poorly bred in society. This is why VNN and Stormfront are full of illiterate individuals who for the most part will have never earned a college degree.
The Irish-American is simply that: an Irish-American. You cannot reduce Oscar Wilde and other great and noble Irishmen to numbers. You cannot reduce the beautiful redheaded Irish Bruenn-Nordic girl to a number, either. The Irish have their place and others have theirs: if everyone were the same, this world would be boring and probably more backwards. The richness of Irish culture is something that cannot be measured.
On the internet, of course, isn't everyone a superstar? I mean, people brag about their rich children, brag about having IQs above 145, brag about having PhDs, brag about having professors and scholars as parents and relatives, etc. It's easy to dismiss an opponent or an entire ethnic group online, because the dynamics of individual competition and the stresses of life are non-existent online.
Generally, the more intelligent and cultured the individual, the more in awe he or she is of cultures such as that which the Irish have.
It is a fact of life that number 1 (in any area or field) will never compare himself to number 2. He knows he is superior and there is nothing to demonstrate. It goes without saying. There is indeed something quirky about someone constantly asserting or implying his superiority: that very fact points otherwise. Number 2, however, will compare himself to number 1.
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Post by ginojda on Jun 20, 2004 23:40:07 GMT -5
I think the main reason there has been Anti Irish prejudice was because of what Galvez said in his earlier post and because most Irish are devout Catholics. English people have a long history of Catholic hatred since the 15th century.
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