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Post by nymos on Jan 9, 2006 15:32:13 GMT -5
Remember my position in this thread was only defensive. I didn't accuse anyone of anything. I'm not the person to single out any group, ethnic or religious, and blame them for all the ills in the world. I wish the same could be said about you. My opinion of you has sunk considerably. And anyone who has read this thread from start to finish would see how dishonest you are in your latest post here.
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Post by Yankel on Jan 9, 2006 16:12:35 GMT -5
Of course, Nymos. Haven't you followed my debates with Drooperdoo? He's the king of straw man arguments. Set your watch for the next "debate"...
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Post by Drooperdoo on Jan 9, 2006 16:29:00 GMT -5
Nymos, Sounds to me like you're saying that no one has antagonism to Christianity--an incredible assertion as Israeli kids beat up a guy in a Santa suit screaming "Dead Christian!"
Bad feelings don't exist (according to you).
I'd consult Mel Gibson on the subject of Jewish groups attacking his very faithful filming of the New Testament, but you'd say that there was no antagonism in the threats of law-suits, the public slandering, the well-coordinated campaign that was mounted against a film of the New Testament made by a Catholic. . . .
Nope. No antagonism at all.
Doesn't exist, according to you.
So stay quiet and don't squirm as I fit the Santa suit on you. Shhh. Stop fighting it. We'll just be taking you to Tel-Aviv now.
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Post by Yankel on Jan 9, 2006 17:44:52 GMT -5
Hey, you like snuff flicks? Kol hakavod.
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Post by nymos on Jan 9, 2006 17:46:54 GMT -5
Nymos, Sounds to me like you're saying that no one has antagonism to Christianity--an incredible assertion as Israeli kids beat up a guy in a Santa suit screaming "Dead Christian!" Bad feelings don't exist (according to you). I'd consult Mel Gibson on the subject of Jewish groups attacking his very faithful filming of the New Testament, but you'd say that there was no antagonism in the threats of law-suits, the public slandering, the well-coordinated campaign that was mounted against a film of the New Testament made by a Catholic. . . . Nope. No antagonism at all. Doesn't exist, according to you. So stay quiet and don't squirm as I fit the Santa suit on you. Shhh. Stop fighting it. We'll just be taking you to Tel-Aviv now. Droop, c'mon, don't stoop this low. You're babbling for the sake of babbling, at this point. Enough with the lies and misguided sarcasm. Perhaps, your temper is acting up again. Take the time to come to your senses.
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Post by dukeofpain on Jan 9, 2006 22:26:05 GMT -5
Sure, just like Ghandi and India would support Churchill's agenda as being wise. Incidentally [or not] Here's Sir Winston's rantings on Islam. Churchill on Islam
"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries!" - beginning of a quote from Winston Churchill...
"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities - but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome." -Sir Winston Churchill (The River War, first edition, Vol. II, pages 248-50 (London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1899). Churchill Doesn't have hindsight, and if he did, I don't think he would be lamenting to long about the ineptness of pro-Zionist statements, he'd have bigger fish to fry. Becuase the nazis imprisoned certain elements of the Germans people for things like "degenerate art" (a Nazi offense) does that mean they hated all Germans? In the same way does a Bolshevik Jew whom destroys a synagogue (a Bolshevik offense) mean he hates the Jewish group? Or is it the Jewish god?
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Post by nymos on Jan 9, 2006 23:18:08 GMT -5
I wouldn't call this a rant. On the contrary, Churchill's sagacity impresses me once again.
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Post by dukeofpain on Jan 9, 2006 23:49:49 GMT -5
Of course it would. I knew all too well of the coming response.
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Post by dukeofpain on Jan 9, 2006 23:51:52 GMT -5
Given judaism and Christianity is so much more enlightenend and Christians and jews are so much more reasonable.... Especially English Christians and Israeli jews.
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Post by Educate Me on Jan 10, 2006 0:11:25 GMT -5
Nymos, where did you get the information that muslims liked Mel Gibson´s movie on Jesus?
Was it just your impression from the streets or did you read an article on that?
I mean, it would really surprise me, since the story line, (pretty much the gospels), goes against muslim beliefs on God and Jesus.
That would be akin to the Saudi royal family financing a movie which shows how the disciples of christ corrupted the Gospels and "catholics" supposedly loving it.
Or was that comment just a way for justifying the paranoia which seemed to affect some jews before the release of that movie? like rabbi´s flooding newspapers all around the world with articles on how horribly anti semitic a movie which literally displays something that has been read in every sunday for almsot 2 milleniums in hundreds of thousands churches around the world is, and how it would make jews be persecuted and increase anti semitism,
You know, stuff that in retrospective, seems ridiculous, paranoid, whiny, because non of that ended up happening, and there was never a reason for that to happen to begin with.
poor Gibson, was insulted like crazy, character assassinated, from south park to left wing argentine magazines he was treated like a mad man, fanatic, nazi. And all for nothing.
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Post by dukeofpain on Jan 10, 2006 0:23:13 GMT -5
Nymos, where did you get the information that muslims liked Mel Gibson´s movie on Jesus? Was it just your impression from the streets or did you read an article on that? I mean, it would really surprise me, since the story line, (pretty much the gospels), goes against muslim beliefs on God and Jesus. That would be akin to the Saudi royal family financing a movie which shows how the disciples of christ corrupted the Gospels and "catholics" supposedly loving it. Or was that comment just a way for justifying the paranoia which seemed to affect some jews before the release of that movie? like rabbi´s flooding newspapers all around the world with articles on how horribly anti semitic a movie which literally displays something that has been read in every sunday for almsot 2 milleniums in hundreds of thousands churches around the world is, and how it would make jews be persecuted and increase anti semitism, You know, stuff that in retrospective, seems ridiculous, paranoid, whiny, because non of that ended up happening, and there was never a reason for that to happen to begin with. poor Gibson, was insulted like crazy, character assassinated, from south park to left wing argentine magazines he was treated like a mad man, fanatic, nazi. And all for nothing. Educate me, It's becuase Muslims are Nazis and so is Mel Gibson.
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Post by tonynatuzzi on Jan 10, 2006 0:33:46 GMT -5
Educate Me your politically on the left so why do you feel sorry for Mel Gibson being bashed by leftwing Argentine magazines after all it is your political kin thats bashing him.
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Post by Educate Me on Jan 10, 2006 0:37:32 GMT -5
where I live being on the left just means your views on economy, you can be a conservative on social issues and left wing on economic issues.
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Post by nymos on Jan 10, 2006 0:43:21 GMT -5
Given judaism and Christianity is so much more enlightenend and Christians and jews are so much more reasonable.... Especially English Christians and Israeli jews. I see you've adopted Droops misguided sarcasm. You two only have the concepts of positive and negative. The concept of "neutral" is lost on you.
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Post by nymos on Jan 10, 2006 0:44:11 GMT -5
Nymos, where did you get the information that muslims liked Mel Gibson´s movie on Jesus? Was it just your impression from the streets or did you read an article on that? I mean, it would really surprise me, since the story line, (pretty much the gospels), goes against muslim beliefs on God and Jesus. That would be akin to the Saudi royal family financing a movie which shows how the disciples of christ corrupted the Gospels and "catholics" supposedly loving it. Or was that comment just a way for justifying the paranoia which seemed to affect some jews before the release of that movie? like rabbi´s flooding newspapers all around the world with articles on how horribly anti semitic a movie which literally displays something that has been read in every sunday for almsot 2 milleniums in hundreds of thousands churches around the world is, and how it would make jews be persecuted and increase anti semitism, You know, stuff that in retrospective, seems ridiculous, paranoid, whiny, because non of that ended up happening, and there was never a reason for that to happen to begin with. poor Gibson, was insulted like crazy, character assassinated, from south park to left wing argentine magazines he was treated like a mad man, fanatic, nazi. And all for nothing. Educate me, It's becuase Muslims are Nazis and so is Mel Gibson. That's a very bad thing to say, Dukey. Shame on you.
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