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Post by Crimson Guard on Sept 29, 2005 13:17:45 GMT -5
your covering up now Bass? HAHAHA,you little swamp rat!
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Post by Power Cosmic on Sept 29, 2005 13:20:03 GMT -5
your covering up now Bass? HAHAHA,you little swamp rat! Moderators do your jobs.
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Post by Power Cosmic on Sept 29, 2005 13:31:26 GMT -5
The people of egyptsearch live in another dimension, posting black people to represent modern egyptians (a pic with 10 kids, most of them totally negroid), also they think that siwa berbers are black , they keep posting a pic of black people pretending that they are siwa-berbers...etc. Well lets deal strictly with Charlie Bass and racialreality Charlie's e-mail to e-mail reply from C. Loring Brace Hello Dr. Brace, I have another question for you. The webmater of this site www.geocities.com/racial_reality/ has taken this quote from your study, "Clines and Clusters" to mean East Africans like Somalis are craniofacially Caucasoid:
"As our data show, the people of the Horn of Africa are craniofacially less distinct from a spectrum of samples marginally including South Asia and running all the way from the Middle East to northwest Europe than they are to any group in sub-Saharan Africa." (Brace et al., 1993, p. 19)
As I've tried to explain to him numerous times by directly quoting your work as well as our e-mail correspondence, Horn of Africans and Upper Nile people are the result of a peculiar microevolution via adaptation to a hot and dry climate and never did you you ever imply they were Caucasoids nor West Eurasian. I seek your clarification of the above quote from your study as well as where Horn of Africans group "racially". I seem to support Hiernaux's view that populations like Tutsis, Somalis, Masai, and Oromo belong to Elongated East African branch within the broad diversity of sub-Saharan Africans. Would i be wrong for supporting such a view? Thanks in advance and for the information you provided in your previous e-mail correspondence with me.
Best regards,
Charles RigaudC. Loring Brace's response You have hit the nail right on the head. No, I certainly to not see those elongate east Africans as "caucasoid" and they do indeed make a case for microevolutionary change in situ. I just wish I had more data on people from that part of the world.
Thanks for understanding,
C. L. BraceClick this link and see racialreality's weak response and distorted manipulation of C. Loring Brace's words www.egyptsearch.com/forums/Forum8/HTML/002590.htmlAfter the posting on this response from Brace, racialreality makes this statement.. Brace's position implies that indigenous East Africans were of a Caucasoid or proto-Caucasoid type, and totally unrelated to Negroids.www.egyptsearch.com/forums/Forum8/HTML/002595-2.htmlIgu you have to be fair and at least admit racialreality's flawed logic and standards. There should be no questions as to why racialreality is treated the way he's treated there. Well any response to this?
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Post by Crimson Guard on Sept 29, 2005 13:31:43 GMT -5
Actually no Barre/Bass,you called me a "Bugger",which is british slang for:
<< Bugger" is an expletive used in vernacular British English, Australian English, and New Zealand English. When used in context it still retains its original meaning, implying sodomy; however it is now more generally used to imply dissatisfaction (bugger, I've missed the bus) or used to describe someone whose behaviour is in some way displeasing (the bugger has given me the wrong change). >>
I dont care what meaning or context you implied when trying to slander me,nor frankly care much as you never know what your talking about anyway....Sorry Charlie ,but you are one truely deranged loony-toon,just look how you constantly repeat and "parrot this Charlie Bass and attack Racial Reality, Dienekes,myself among others with the same boring redundant bullshit in numerious treads and forums. Most of this junk you created yourself in your own feeble brain...your mentality is that of a sociopathic schizophrenic !
Dienekes was right your on Afrocentric Dope,overdose amounts!
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Post by Power Cosmic on Sept 29, 2005 14:48:28 GMT -5
Actually no Barre/Bass,you called me a "Bugger",which is british slang for: << Bugger" is an expletive used in vernacular British English, Australian English, and New Zealand English. When used in context it still retains its original meaning, implying sodomy; however it is now more generally used to imply dissatisfaction (bugger, I've missed the bus) or used to describe someone whose behaviour is in some way displeasing (the bugger has given me the wrong change). >> I dont care what meaning or context you implied when trying to slander me,nor frankly care much as you never know what your talking about anyway....Sorry Charlie ,but you are one truely deranged loony-toon,just look how you constantly repeat and "parrot this Charlie Bass and attack Racial Reality, Dienekes,myself among others with the same boring redundant bullshit in numerious treads and forums. Most of this junk you created yourself in your own feeble brain...your mentality is that of a sociopathic schizophrenic ! Dienekes was right your on Afrocentric Dope,overdose amounts! Excuse, what were you saying, I didn't read what you said.
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Post by mhagneto on Sept 29, 2005 16:35:34 GMT -5
your covering up now Bass? HAHAHA,you little swamp rat! Oh, no! You mean D Manning is really Charlie Bass? It cant be true! If it is, then you're quite mad, Charlie!
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Post by Mike the Jedi on Sept 29, 2005 19:15:41 GMT -5
I don't care what anybody here says. Charlie Bass was an excellent and valuable poster. All of his opinions were well-founded and *EVEN* backed-up by e-mail correspondence with the professionals.
Yes, his language was often antagonistic, but none of his claims were ridiculous or unjustified. What did he do that people didn't like? Simple: he didn't believe Aethiopids had a Caucasoid component. That's pretty much it.
He didn't correlate E3b with a Negroid morphology like the other "big nigs" down at EgyptSearch do. And he recognized the West Eurasian element of the Ancient Egyptians, which would give the other EgyptSearchers a heart attack. Trying to call him a brainwashed Afrocentrist is just plain wrong, as he was clearly a man of his own thoughts and not some Afrodrone.
The only problem with Charlie was that he was too passionate, unlike human2 who knows when to stop arguing with buffoons and parrots who are too busy copying and pasting from RR's website instead of reading studies and coming up with their own conclusions. I know Faelcind would agree with me here.
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Post by eufrenio on Sept 29, 2005 19:40:19 GMT -5
I don't care what anybody here says. Charlie Bass was an excellent and valuable poster. Why use the past tense? C. Bass is still around. That´s one of the problems we have with him: he comes back right after we ban him every time and then denies it. But I agree that having him post here is/was interesting. Scholars are mere mortals: they too can err. I don´t think that belief shocked anybody. I can assure l you that I am agnostic on the Horn/elongated African controversy. But as a moderator I find Charlie a bit rude and obnoxious. Like we owe him some extra attention or something. Agreed, though sometimes I felt he was borderline Afrocentrist: I mean personally and irationally drawn to the Afrocentric mystique. Much too passionate... I can understand Alexandrian being passionate about Egypt, his home country, but Charlie? He´s never been there, nor have his ancestors.
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Post by Mike the Jedi on Sept 29, 2005 20:04:05 GMT -5
Why use the past tense? C. Bass is still around. Maybe he is lurking, I don't know, but he's not David Manning if that's what you mean. Too completely different writing styles. Two completely different people. Scholars are mere mortals: they too can err. Yes, they can. But it seems to me that most of the time when the real scholars supposedly "err" is when people don't like what they have to say. Brace, Groves, Underhill, etc. are all scholars. Dienekes is not. He's just a guy who knows a lot about anthropology. No offense to him (as he has lots of great stuff on his site), but as far as East Africans go, I think I'll take the word of the professionals over the word of an accomplished blogger. I don´t think that belief shocked anybody. I can assure l you that I am agnostic on the Horn/elongated African controversy. If only everybody were. But as a moderator I find Charlie a bit rude and obnoxious. Like we owe him some extra attention or something. Yes, that was one of his faults. Unfortunately it plays right into the parrots' hands to discredit the man rather than his information. Agreed, though sometimes I felt he was borderline Afrocentrist: I mean personally and irationally drawn to the Afrocentric mystique. I agree with this. Unhealthy fascinations make people feel a little alienated and uncomfortable. I mean, that's what centrism is. Much too passionate... I can understand Alexandrian being passionate about Egypt, his home country, but Charlie? He´s never been there, nor have his ancestors. Well, just put yourself in his shoes. He's a black man, a member of the Negroid racial cluster. Naturally, he doesn't like it when black African racial types are reduced to caricatures. Just like the white posters here don't like it when Nordicist Kempians or other centrists try to say Southern Europeans are something they're not. In other words, Charlie doesn't like it when the same standard of diversity that is applied to Caucasoids and Mongoloids is not also applied to Negroids. He doesn't see why Cromagnoids and Arabids can be members of the same racial cluster and not also Sudanids and Aethiopids. Frankly, I don't see why not either.
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Post by Crimson Guard on Sept 29, 2005 20:36:27 GMT -5
One most wonder whether you think before you write?!
<<Well, just put yourself in his shoes. He's a black man, a member of the Negroid racial cluster. Naturally, he doesn't like it when black African racial types are reduced to caricatures. Just like the white posters here don't like it when Nordicist Kempians or other centrists try to say Southern Europeans are something they're not. In other words, Charlie doesn't like it when the same standard of diversity that is applied to Caucasoids and Mongoloids is not also applied to Negroids. He doesn't see why Cromagnoids and Arabids can be members of the same racial cluster and not also Sudanids and Aethiopids. Frankly, I don't see why not either.>>
Boo-hoo! Biggest load of PC bullshit. You DO not give partial credit to those who do not derserve it...Plain and simple!Common sense!
Genetics does not support nor show any evidence of what your talking about...Caucasoid's happen to show that,cause thats what happened,THEY DID IT. Its proven facts. That does not mean the same occurred for other groups like for example, for the Negroids. Doesnt work that way.Whether its fair or not,just isnt factual nor true to life and reality! Its not racist,its just history,what you & Bass do is Racist !
Your logic is that of a child,"Well lets event it,to make every feel equal and OK".You pulled that shit with Egypt many times to give it a "Mulatto" state,"Oh ,Their black and White" ,now everyone's gonna be happy, right? Wrong! Sorry man,but that's criminal,that's insanity!
You just talk outve your ass to back up poor lonely Charlie and his coutless fake names,you like him, enjoy inventing facts, just for sake of making a few lost token black people feel better.
What Bass and his Afro-loons like doing is instilling their fealty hands onto the Egyptians and just about every other African group, in attempt to "own a piece of history ect,same bullshit that Arthur Kemp and his band does.
Let me get this right,you dont like Kemp,but yet you understand Bass and let him off the hook for exact the same behavior,basically only cause he's Black and is entitled to some extra-rights cause of years of suffering?
HAHAHAHAHAHA your smoking whatever Bass is,quit soon ,cause it isnt helping you out any!
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Post by Mike the Jedi on Sept 29, 2005 20:49:15 GMT -5
Crimson, you do not know what you are talking about.
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Post by Crimson Guard on Sept 29, 2005 20:59:18 GMT -5
yes Mike ,you keep saying that yourself while you suck on your bottle,and while you at you keep believing in that "Oh the East Africans aren't Partially Caucasoid,its just a theory Crimson",lol,whatever that rubbish you spewing a few days ago to me(again talking outve your ass,just to support Bass without thinking) ..HAHAHAHA Your in dream world...I know, Racial Reality and Dienekes and every who knows the truth are either Parrots or closet case Racists to you & your impoverished friend Bass,where all out to get the "groids" !
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Post by Mike the Jedi on Sept 29, 2005 21:04:28 GMT -5
Crimson, you do *NOT* know what you are talking about.
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Post by Crimson Guard on Sept 29, 2005 21:14:27 GMT -5
I know Mike,and you didnt tell me that cheese a few ago either? HAHAHA your a funny guy!
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Post by Educate Me on Sept 29, 2005 21:35:52 GMT -5
This is not very related to this thread, but I just wanted to say that if I were a scholar, and someone repeatedly e-mailed me, asking me stuff for message board discussions, I would feel very annoyed to say the least.
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