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Post by Power Cosmic on Aug 20, 2005 21:22:31 GMT -5
I took a look at his last post and if that post was an insult the abuse he took in this forum was far beyond being insulted. Those who insulted him should have been banned eons ago. Without his views this place is analog.
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Post by Trog on Aug 21, 2005 18:14:19 GMT -5
I'm perhaps the poster that annoys Charlie the most and possibly his original nemesis. Whilst I don't feel his conduct on this occasion warranted him being banned, I do think he can cause stagnation in forums by recycling the same old subjects and reinventing himself under various guises in order to deliver his messages. He also likes to create imaginary support for his views, as though this validates everything he says. This then gives him the confidence to routinely dismiss the research of 'experts' that oppose his stance, i.e. Brace et al.
In addition, he is a drama queen who believes he is victimised for being black, but it does seem that he has made some attempts to modify his Afrocentrism.
For those who really do miss him (probably little Mikey), he seems to enjoy Race relations room 1 of Yahoo chat, under the profile "just a screen name" or something like that.
PS- He detests being exposed like this, so I will predict that we will get a new poster very soon with similar views to Charlie and who knows that it's not him who chats in Yahoo Race Relations!
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Post by Crimson Guard on Aug 21, 2005 18:37:33 GMT -5
He's on Egyptsearch bragging on how he insulted and humiliated posters over with his divine keen intellect...He's loud mouth arrogant braggart and shouldve been caste out into oblivion long ago! Sure though,he's still lurking around this board under a different guise.
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Post by asdf on Sept 21, 2005 23:40:07 GMT -5
You mean David Manning Jr. isn't him?
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Post by henerte on Sept 24, 2005 18:52:59 GMT -5
Yes. I don't really care much about quality of his posts but he was one of the most active posters (and he rarely limited himself to posts like "looks kinda german to me") Plus, it was funny to see all these quarrels between him and other posters.
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Post by k5125 on Sept 24, 2005 19:59:34 GMT -5
I never actually read anything by Charlie Bass until very recently, just to see what all the fuss was about of course. Funny though, PontoHardbottle once said I was like him. Back then, I don't think I even knew who he was. Still funny though to be compared to such an icon. In Ponto's words: " I have never met such a perverse person as you. Very unrealistically stubburn and closed minded. No, I take that back, Charlie Bass seems to be similar to you. " Why did Charlie Bass even get banned anyway?
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Post by Mike the Jedi on Sept 24, 2005 20:55:41 GMT -5
He called Dienekes a liar.
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Post by k5125 on Sept 24, 2005 20:58:14 GMT -5
He called Dienekes a liar. Thats it? He got banned just for that? You gotta be kidding me.
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Post by Mike the Jedi on Sept 24, 2005 21:02:43 GMT -5
I'm sure his banning is justifed with "oh, that was the last straw because he was insulting other posters." That's bulljive, of course. People have said a lot worse things than Charlie, but they can get away with it, because they're pro-Med. I'm just glad Human2's still here to keep all the ornery whities in check.
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Post by eufrenio on Sept 25, 2005 7:47:13 GMT -5
Mike, that´s unfair! Take it from a moderator: we ban pro and anti-Med members when they really deserve. This is not a pro-med forum to my knowledge, and we are very tolerant and patient with everybody. As to C. Bass, we are usually lenient with him, since he always reappears after a ban under one form or another and we let him post. IF Charlie is not posting now, it´s because he doesn´t want to. Anyway, Charlie is a drama queen, we shouldn´t pay him any of the attention he so craves! I don´t understand why he´s fooling you into his game. Mike, you´re smarter than that!
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Post by Power Cosmic on Sept 25, 2005 8:21:11 GMT -5
As to C. Bass, we are usually lenient with him, since he always reappears after a ban under one form or another and we let him post. IF Charlie is not posting now, it´s because he doesn´t want to. Anyway, Charlie is a drama queen, we shouldn´t pay him any of the attention he so craves! I don´t understand why he´s fooling you into his game. Mike, you´re smarter than that! This is unfair and totally out of line with the facts. I've never seen Charlie act like a drama queen. Its been the opposite, look at Berter's thread on Charlie and human2 being the same person, thats drama. Crimson Guard is always baiting me by calling me Charlie Manning, but because he is pro-Med he isn't banned. It doesn't take rocket science to figure that out. Dienekes banned chris jones and Mystery Solver for their views and opinions, not ofr any kind of rude behavior towards dodona posters that was unprovoked. I call it the way I see it, this board is mostly pro-Med, pro-Caucasoid or whatever you wish to call it but it certainly isn't objective and open-minded.
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Post by Power Cosmic on Sept 25, 2005 8:25:47 GMT -5
To add to this, Charlie Bass had the most objective and consistent arguments of any poster I've seen in here thus far. One look on egyptsearch confirms this. He even e-mails and posts the responses from geneticists and anthropologists and despite this he was still treated harshly. I don't think he should come back but the option should be open. His credibility alone has made the arguments of many here meaningless. Most of the "great" revered posters here haven't put in nearly as much work and research as Charlie.
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Post by eufrenio on Sept 25, 2005 8:31:44 GMT -5
As to C. Bass, we are usually lenient with him, since he always reappears after a ban under one form or another and we let him post. IF Charlie is not posting now, it´s because he doesn´t want to. Anyway, Charlie is a drama queen, we shouldn´t pay him any of the attention he so craves! I don´t understand why he´s fooling you into his game. Mike, you´re smarter than that! This is unfair and totally out of line with the facts. I've never seen Charlie act like a drama queen. Its been the opposite, look at Berter's thread on Charlie and human2 being the same person, thats drama. Crimson Guard is always baiting me by calling me Charlie Manning, but because he is pro-Med he isn't banned. I never said other members weren´t drawn to high drama! I can´t speak for Dienekes, but it seems to me that these members were being rude to the administrator, which is a stupid thing to do! Human2 also disagrees with Dienekes, but he keeps it civil which is why he hasn´t been banned.
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Post by Power Cosmic on Sept 25, 2005 8:51:02 GMT -5
This is unfair and totally out of line with the facts. I've never seen Charlie act like a drama queen. Its been the opposite, look at Berter's thread on Charlie and human2 being the same person, thats drama. Crimson Guard is always baiting me by calling me Charlie Manning, but because he is pro-Med he isn't banned. I never said other members weren´t drawn to high drama! I can´t speak for Dienekes, but it seems to me that these members were being rude to the administrator, which is a stupid thing to do! Human2 also disagrees with Dienekes, but he keeps it civil which is why he hasn´t been banned. Dienekes has been rude also as well as trying to intimidate those who disagree. I've seen him do it on more than one occasion. He issued out numerous warnings to those three but none to people like Crimson Guard who bait people repeatedly. I just ignore him. This place has no objectivity. If you're pro-Med you're in, if you're not, thats a different story.
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Post by Power Cosmic on Sept 25, 2005 10:54:00 GMT -5
I can´t speak for Dienekes, but it seems to me that these members were being rude to the administrator, which is a stupid thing to do! Human2 also disagrees with Dienekes, but he keeps it civil which is why he hasn´t been banned. euphrenio, if someone on my forum called me a liar, I wouldn't and can't ban him. I've seen a Finn? banned for challenging Dienekes's objectivity. He didn't say anything outrageous. As for Charlie being a drama queen, yeah.. he doesn't know when to stop. But that's what a forum is. Dienekes takes challenges to his objectivity as a form of personal attack. In any debate a person has the right to question his opponents objectivity especially when it is suspect. It doesn't matter if Dienekes is the webmaster or not. As for Charlie, he was a bit high strung.....but he was mostly defensive. I correspond with him through e-mail almost everyday, he's not going to return here. For what its worth he doesn't need to unless someone can provide some sort of objective feedback to the information that he posts, otherwise he'll be wasting his time in a pro-Med Europhile forum.
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