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Post by galvez on Mar 30, 2004 12:33:35 GMT -5
I fished for some neat quotes from Skadi. I won't give the authors, but if they happen to show up or a friend shows up they can claim the quotes. There really isn't a more desperate group than Nordicists. As far as whining goes, they cannot be topped.
1. "The only women who crave Nordic men, are non-Nordic women. It's unfortunate, but it seems racemixing is very natural."
2. "If we include Nordish miscegenation with Meds, I think it is the majority."
3. "Like I said before, people vote with their gametes when it comes to racial politics. Nords get swamped out pretty easily, even by closely-related groups like Meds."
All three of these quotes show something you never see from a Mediterranean nationalist: self-pity. And at least two of the quotes come from a Nordicist.
So what Nordicists do is vacillate between fits of bravado and self-pitying reflection over their situation.
In the first quote, the Nordicist is actually whining that his own women don't want Nordic men. In the second and third quotes the idea that Nordic men lose out in the open market of sexual competition is expressed.
The sad, boring whining is thus not coming from Dodona. The sad, boring whining comes from the little cave from which these Nordicists have crawled out.
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Post by Scoob on Mar 30, 2004 13:04:38 GMT -5
I fished for some neat quotes from Skadi. I won't give the authors, but if they happen to show up or a friend shows up they can claim the quotes. There really isn't a more desperate group than Nordicists. As far as whining goes, they cannot be topped.... 3. "Like I said before, people vote with their gametes when it comes to racial politics. Nords get swamped out pretty easily, even by closely-related groups like Meds." All three of these quotes show something you never see from a Mediterranean nationalist: self-pity. And at least two of the quotes come from a Nordicist. ... In the first quote, the Nordicist is actually whining that his own women don't want Nordic men. In the second and third quotes the idea that Nordic men lose out in the open market of sexual competition is expressed. Why not learn some English next time you decide to quote me? Quote #3 was written by me. Swamped out means that Nordic phenotype disappears when some mixing occurs. In other words, half Nordic half Negro doesn't look very Nordic. Most of the time, half Nordic half Med doesn't look very Nordic, either. That's what I meant - and it's a matter of fact, not a whine.
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Post by Melnorme on Mar 30, 2004 13:14:36 GMT -5
Most of the time, half Nordic half Med doesn't look very Nordic, either. That's what I meant - and it's a matter of fact, not a whine. I really don't want to get involved here, but from my personal experience, the children of a 'Nordish-looking' parent and a 'Med' parent ( including 'Arab-looking' types ) usually remain within the continuum of Northern/Central European phenotypes. Of course, this type of 'passing' might not be enough for some...
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Post by Scoob on Mar 30, 2004 17:17:57 GMT -5
I really don't want to get involved here, but from my personal experience, the children of a 'Nordish-looking' parent and a 'Med' parent ( including 'Arab-looking' types ) usually remain within the continuum of Northern/Central European phenotypes. Of course, this type of 'passing' might not be enough for some... Possibly true. But still, in the East Coast USA 100 years ago, there were many blond-blue people. Many whites in the area are descended from these people - yet few are blond and blue. That's what I mean by "swamped out" - blondness doesn't dominate - although other features might (I'm not sure). And by the way, I'll have to remember that I'm officially a Nordicist, now that Galvez has classified me as such. Does this mean that I get to wear a cardboard Viking hat?
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Post by Praetor on Mar 30, 2004 19:21:29 GMT -5
In other words, half Nordic half Negro doesn't look very Nordic. Most of the time, half Nordic half Med doesn't look very Nordic, either. You mean that Nordic/med hybrids usually resemble meds? Nords and meds are quite close skeletally ,sometimes too close.Are you sure you can classify their hybrids? Or do you speak in pigmention terms? Because half nordic/half med may doesn't look very nordic most of times as you say,but it doesn't look med either.
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Post by xxx on Mar 31, 2004 6:28:29 GMT -5
Its a fact that the dark Welsh (mediterrenean looking) exist. But the problem is that some people try to claim the majority of the Welsh people are dark welsh. This is highly incorrect. The dark Welsh are a minority in Wales. I would recommend you to visit Wales like I did, or you could surf the internet to search for pictures of Welsh people. Go to a site like www.google.com and type in Welsh in the picture browser for example. And you will see that most Welsh people are not dark at all but instead look identical to the other Brits (Scots, English) I've been in Wales on a few occasions and the amount of people with Mediterranean traits is high, really high. And I'm not just speaking of Cardiff but a number of small villages and towns from the Cambridge area to Snowdonia. Perhaps you are assuming one specific Mediterranean type as an absolute archeotype of everything Mediterranean? And I've observed that much in Kernow/Cornwall, a place that I enjoyed much and on many occasions. And, to a lesser extent, the same for the beautiful Scotland. I remember the owner of a small countryside hotel in Perth, who I thought he might be an archaeotypical Scotsman... tall, strong builded, with a blonde-reddish hair an medium beard, and the typical mongoloid eyes trait and eyebrows line and forehead. Well, until he told me he was actually English though he had been living there for ages. My Accountancy teacher, a Scottish Campbell, could pass by a Spaniard with no effort. And look at Sean Connery! England also has a noticeable Mediterranean strain. Not as strong as the formers, but still. I wouldn't call Basques Celtiberians. They are the most representative Iberians of all. Same for some reduced populations of Aquitanians in the Pyrenees.
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Post by xxx on Mar 31, 2004 7:04:35 GMT -5
Why not learn some English next time you decide to quote me? Quote #3 was written by me. Swamped out means that Nordic phenotype disappears when some mixing occurs. In other words, half Nordic half Negro doesn't look very Nordic. Most of the time, half Nordic half Med doesn't look very Nordic, either. That's what I meant - and it's a matter of fact, not a whine. Scoob, you live in your own world of fantasy. A. First your imaginary Sicilian friend who would pinch every girls' bumps (jealous he wouldn't pinch yours?), and now these imaginary facts of yours. And, besides, given your alleged sexual orientation, you are not likely to have children unless you believe in miracles. So, why would you care? That's not always the case. All blond people I've seen in Spain and/or Italy have far more Med than Nord genes. Obviously so. And still, blondness endures after centuries past. I don't know if you are a Nordicist or just a professional whiner. And I don't care. I only know you used to be my favourite pet and I miss you a lot. I didn't attack you. It was you who unveiled your sexual preferences. Else, I don't see why you would visit queer pages and use their same arguments to try to prove things. Queer arguments are for queer people. There was no need for you to complain about all those alleged ad hominem attacks after I was banned from skadi. I really don't care about your sexual bent, but I do think you are a wimp for waiting until I was banned to write your opinions about my person.
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Post by galvez on Mar 31, 2004 7:15:06 GMT -5
And by the way, I'll have to remember that I'm officially a Nordicist, now that Galvez has classified me as such. Does this mean that I get to wear a cardboard Viking hat? I did not label you a Nordicist; I said two of the quotes (not from you) came from a Nordicist. I was not explicit, but I won't bother with this queer claim.
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Post by executiona9 on Mar 31, 2004 7:32:41 GMT -5
Hello Mynydd:
I never said that Wales, England, Scotland or Ireland didnt have some Mediterrenean looking people. There are many Mediterrenean looking individuals on the british isles.
But the point im trying to make is that Wales is not darker than Scotland or Ireland. In my opinion the Welsh, Scottish and Irish all look very much the same and the differences in haircolour are negligable between these 3 countries.
This is my personal experience. Would you agree with this?
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Post by dalonord on Mar 31, 2004 9:13:09 GMT -5
[quote author=galvez Your name is not exactly a synonym of excitement, by the way. [/quote] Surely this was intended as a sarcastic jab but actually, you might be surprised at how complimentary a comment like that is—for the true Teuton is not flashy and showy but instead, sure and steady; the methodical Saxon yeoman! Thank you indeed. It’s nice to be trolled on your own “turf”, eh? I’m wondering if perhaps my comments stung a little more than those from a common troll due to my reputation for having a fair-minded aproach? My whole point here is that it seems that one can not even browse a thread on the anthropology of the Welsh without stumbling upon posts criticizing so-called Nordicists. I can avoid threads titled “Why Nordhammer is angry” or “Skadi and intersubracial dating” but why do the Welsh need to be dragged into it? Sure, I could ignore such posts….and 99 times out of 100, I do for the Yeoman minds his own affairs. However, the same could be said to you regarding your participation at Skadi. No? It often seems that your mission is not to study, appreciate celebrate and advocate your own larger meta-ethnicity but instead, to wage a campaign which attempts to discredit the notion of North Europid unity and preservation. Do you find it at all ironic that so-called Nordicists rarely trolling other forums spewing their agendas, yet at Skadi, the so-called Noricist forum (despite the fact that it is very inclusive of all European meta-ethnicities and subraces) , we often are beset by Medicists and Slavicists who seem not to be concerned with their own business but intead, with that of others and often in a very hostile tone. The reverse is rarely seen. As for you comment about me “sitting back and letting others do the dirty work”, I’m afraid that you are wrong here; for I have no dirty work to conduct. Despite my natural nepotism for North Euopids and their subsequent ethnic, cultural and linguistic affiliations (as this is my heritage through and through), I have no ill-will toward other branches of the greater Europid family and in fact, advocate their own preservation in this era of racial and cultural decay. I just wish that others would tend to their own concerns and not come along in an effort to tear mine down. I this regard, perhaps our out-looks are not so distant?
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Post by xxx on Mar 31, 2004 9:37:45 GMT -5
Hello Mynydd: I never said that Wales, England, Scotland or Ireland didnt have some Mediterrenean looking people. There are many Mediterrenean looking individuals on the british isles. But the point im trying to make is that Wales is not darker than Scotland or Ireland. In my opinion the Welsh, Scottish and Irish all look very much the same and the differences in haircolour are negligable between these 3 countries. This is my personal experience. Would you agree with this? Hi there. I've been in Ireland less than in the rest of the aforementioned places, but I still observed a much larger percentage of blondism in Ireland than in Wales or Cornwall. And still higher than in Scotland, though Scotland's percentage of blondism is still higher than in Wales or Cornwall. The short genetic distances with Basques are interesting. I would imagine that you can get a largely Nordic phenotype out of a fairly large Mediterranean genotype mixed with Nordic. I think there is much we don't know about the recessiveness of certain traits. Just a thought. Still this does not imply that either of those Celtic nations are Mediterranean nations. But I don't see them as Nordic either.
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Post by xxx on Mar 31, 2004 10:16:44 GMT -5
I’m wondering if perhaps my comments stung a little more than those from a common troll due to my reputation for having a fair-minded aproach? You do love yourself, don't you? You guys use the same approach as gypsies. I tell you that I'm amazed by this striking similarity and I've been tempted to tell about it on more than one occasion. After many attacks, attempts to discredit, heritage robbery, and all kind of both veiled and open insults to Meds, when you are confronted you whine just like gypsies when the people turn against them. They too cry unfairness, in much a similar way as you do. I don't find it ironic, I find it something different. We don't fear going anywhere and confronting others. We do not have the need to hide behind a pack and can confront others in the open or even in their own field. I think that's a great Mediterraneanist characteristic. You prefer the fake sense of safety that the pack gives you... fair, but don't try to make it view as a sign of civil behaviour. If you and your friends think that skadi is a Nordicist board, then you should be consequent and not allow the existance of non-Nordic forums in it. That's a big lie. I can point you to tons of Nordicist BS which only purpose is to bash and diminish other groups. Of course you will deny that you or your fellow in the pack stand behind it. But again, I could point you to a good bunch of comments by your pack fellows which clearly show you do. I really don't know if what you say is out of a shameless hipocrisy or simply a naïve mindness, perhaps the product of your isolation in your small world and subsequent alienation with reality. Edit: have -> do not have
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Post by Silveira on Mar 31, 2004 10:34:50 GMT -5
Gypsies are originally from Northern India, thus largely Aryan, and frequently have blue or green eyes.
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Post by galvez on Mar 31, 2004 10:45:46 GMT -5
For the record, Danolord, I want to make peace with Nordicists. I understand they have real concerns. Nordics are an endangered species, and I want to ensure the survival of a part of my ancestors whose traits are not so dominant. I am thus pro-Nordic despite what some Nordicists or fake-Nordics want to claim. Surely this was intended as a sarcastic jab but actually, you might be surprised at how complimentary a comment like that is—for the true Teuton is not flashy and showy but instead, sure and steady; the methodical Saxon yeoman! Thank you indeed. Neither are Meds. The flashiness and showiness is not seen in Spanish and Portuguese villages. Your comments were certainly more credible than those of Nordicists who are swarthier than you, but unfortunately for you they are not as credible as those of Slavs who are far more Nordic than you, (and taller) even if you are an exception among Nordicists. I don't care any longer for the Meds vs. Nords feud. It's time for people to grow up.
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Post by AWAR on Mar 31, 2004 10:57:31 GMT -5
While I'm very critical of Nordicist behaviour, I must say I agree with Dalonord and his first statement in this thread. Let's just keep discussions like this one in the politics/ideology section. Thread closed. EDIT: I'll just move it to 'Anything goes'
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