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Post by nwknights on Jan 18, 2006 12:16:09 GMT -5
Yeah Meditteranean is too-broad and, in the past, even included all of India, which is pretty absurd to me.
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Post by Dagaalyahan on Jan 19, 2006 11:41:48 GMT -5
"Somalis on the other hand have arisen after heavy mixing btw Oromos,Semites, persians, habeshas, Indians hence comprise of around 80% cushitic 20% foreign."
Thats BS.
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Post by Sharmaarkee on Jan 20, 2006 17:07:08 GMT -5
"Somalis on the other hand have arisen after heavy mixing btw Oromos,Semites, persians, habeshas, Indians hence comprise of around 80% cushitic 20% foreign." Thats BS. War firi been isu mashegeno walaal. Darood waxa lashega inu kasoo firacmey Carab Isaaq sidhaseyto lakin habar xabusheed baa Bar dashe Dir/Hawiyo wa walalo oo wexey kasoo firacmen Oromo. Reer Xamar waa Farisi,Portuguesee,Somali iyo Jareer Isdale wat other proof do you need? ? Pss reer bosaso wexey leyihin Diig Hindi proof is C/ yussuf looks Sri lankan coz of the long trade btwn the two coasts
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Post by Ras-Xafun on Jan 20, 2006 17:28:28 GMT -5
"Somalis on the other hand have arisen after heavy mixing btw Oromos,Semites, persians, habeshas, Indians hence comprise of around 80% cushitic 20% foreign." Thats BS. War firi been isu mashegeno walaal. Darood waxa lashega inu kasoo firacmey Carab Isaaq sidhaseyto lakin habar xabusheed baa Bar dashe Dir/Hawiyo wa walalo oo wexey kasoo firacmen Oromo. Reer Xamar waa Farisi,Portuguesee,Somali iyo Jareer Isdale wat other proof do you need? ? Pss reer bosaso wexey leyihin Diig Hindi proof is C/ yussuf looks Sri lankan coz of the long trade btwn the two coasts Lol@"reer bosaso wexey leyihin Diig Hindi proof is C/ yussuf looks Sri lankan" as Dagaalyahan said it " BS" These are just folklores, take them with a grain of salt.
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Post by Planet Asia on Jan 29, 2006 14:33:56 GMT -5
Since the taxon "Mediterranean race" has not been validly proven we can say its a bankrupt term.
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Post by asdf on Jan 29, 2006 18:45:13 GMT -5
European Mediterranids, Arabids, and Indids are all rel. short, gracile, dolichocephalic, leptoprospic, leptorrhine, and leptosomic, and that's the point - not necessarily that the lands bordering the Mediterranean Sea are all entirely Mediterranid, that India is all Indid, or that James Gandolfini is the equivalent of an Indian tribal, or even that some random Joe is supposed to see the relation in specialisation between a particular Indian and an Azorean.
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Post by asdf on Jan 29, 2006 19:07:54 GMT -5
I actually put some distances from that Pete Sampras picture into Dienekes' racial calculator - yeah, I got platyrrhine and mesoprospic, and we already know he's over 6'2 and robust. But no one ever called Greece very Mediterranean under this definition anyway.
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Post by Planet Asia on Jan 30, 2006 3:03:13 GMT -5
European Mediterranids, Arabids, and Indids are all rel. short, gracile, dolichocephalic, leptoprospic, leptorrhine, and leptosomic, and that's the point - not necessarily that the lands bordering the Mediterranean Sea are all entirely Mediterranid, that India is all Indid, or that James Gandolfini is the equivalent of an Indian tribal, or even that some random Joe is supposed to see the relation in specialisation between a particular Indian and an Azorean. I'm sorry but none of those people are the same. Southern Europeans are more akin to their fellow Europeans with whom they share a landmass with, except for the relatively few ambiguous looking ones. Indian have their own distinctiveness with mixture from Australoids, Mongoloids and some West Eurasians. There definitely is no substance on which to base a Meditrerranean Race on.
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Post by asdf on Feb 3, 2006 23:42:30 GMT -5
Arabid, Indid, and Gracile-Mediterranid are basically the same metrically.
Just as Asian Alpinoids and French Alpinids are.
Or Iraqi Iranids and European Atlanto-Mediterranids and Nordids.
To disregard their common specialisation is foolish.
I covered that. I never said a random Australoid Indian is Mediterranid. I said the massive Europid component in Indians is Indid, which is "Mediterranean" in the legitimate Leptodolichomorphic sense.
Metrics and specialisation don't always = genetics. Of course a Spaniard is more genetically related to another Spaniard than to an Arabian. But if one is West-Mediterranid and the other Arabid, there's almost no difference whatsoever in metrics. The difference is pigmentation and other non-skeletal features, and that's equally important, but as I said, that some random Joe can't see the relation in specialisation between a particular Indian and an Azorean, it doesn't matter. This isn't for laymen anyway. "Nordic", "Alpine", etc - these terms have more meaning than geography in certain contexts, just like Mediterranean.
If a (gracile)leptodolichomorphic Europid form influenced non-Europid East Africans and resulted in a new leptodolichomorphic form, then it could be called "Mediterranean", and this is what Coon means with his "East African" variety. It can't be called fully Europid, nor is anyone actually calling these people white, nor am I saying these proposed East African "Mediterraneans" are actually caused by admixture from Europids + reselection (because I just don't care), but understand that "Mediterranean" can mean in anthropology 'long-faced, long-headed, etc'... of Europid derivation.
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