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Post by Archangelos on Feb 1, 2004 15:01:59 GMT -5
Melnorme you're right, doing the cold war to think such a way about Communist would be expect, just like anyone that was National Socialist would be expect to be pro-Axis during the time period of WW2, but those periods in history are over. Do you see people thinking that way today about all Communists? No, so why is it still thought today that to be NS is to be pro-Nordic/German. National Socialism is just like any other Ideology, it can be used by any Nation or Race if you really think about it.
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Post by geirr on Feb 1, 2004 21:56:51 GMT -5
Why is it, then when Ideologies are talked about, Communism and National Socialism are always treated so different. No one calls Communism a Russian Ideology or calls anyone pro-russian or such. Everyone seems to forget the crimes of the Communist people, no matter how huge they are. Everyone seems to understand that a Soviet is a Communist, but not all Communist are Soviet. Yet with Fascism or National Socialism, its like no one can be that except a German or a wannabe German. Everyone seems to want to talk about the crimes of the German state and not the good things that came out of it, which are many. No one seems to get that a Nazi is a National Socialist, but not all National Socialists are Nazis. Do you realize how stupid that sounds? Just because a certain ideology comes to power in another nation first, it must for all time only be used by that nation? Please. Nazism, which is the verson of National Socialism followed by the Germans, was more of a Nordic Nationalism, then anything. Their have been National Socialist/Fascist Governments all over the world, and in each country they are alittle different. Germany, Italy, Croatia, Romania, Spain, Greece, and Portugal for some quick examples. Of course Hellenic National Socialism/Fascism is going to be alot different then say German or Spainish. The reason why Communism and National socialism are treated differently is because they are. Communism actually started in Germany but it is universal and found its way to many other countries chiefly Russia. National socialism isn't universal. Not all fascists are national socialists but all national socialists are fascist. All Soviets were communist (wether they agreed or not) but not all communists are Soviets. The only good things to come out of Nazi Germany were Leni Reifenstahl, The Volkswagen Beetle and mothers day. There has been many fascist governments along with Mussolini but the only national socialist government that has existed is the German third reich. National Socialism = Nazism Nazism = National Socialism Simple really. Archangelos, Good luck in your endeavours  |
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Post by Archangelos on Feb 1, 2004 22:44:12 GMT -5
How is National Socialism not universal, the only reason you think that, is because you've been program to believe such a thing. National Socialism is as much universal as any other ideology.
Also, you are forgeting the medicial and military developments that came out of Nazi Germany to, plus the german NS minds that helped the United States during the space race.
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Post by geirr on Feb 2, 2004 1:02:17 GMT -5
. Also, you are forgeting the medicial and military developments that came out of Nazi Germany to, plus the german NS minds that helped the United States during the space race. National Socialism from factmonster.com (Its for kids but I like its simplicity) www.factmonster.com/ce6/history/A0834972.htmlWerner Von Braun was a rocket scientist who designed the V1 and V2 rockets that killed thousands of innocent civilians. After the war he went on to head NASA and land a space craft on the moon. Maybe if the Nazis spent their money and talent on peaceful purposes rather than murdering people then maybe they would have been the first to the moon? |
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Post by Archangelos on Feb 2, 2004 3:24:04 GMT -5
That link was nothing more but trash. You wish to read something that will explain National Socialism?
National Socialism is about viewing the race/nation/society, which every way you look at it, as an organic living being. Their are to be no class divisions and everyone must look for the better of the group then the individual. You believe in helping the whole to evolve higher then the state they are now. NS believe in Blood and Soil, the rules of nature. Those are the true core beliefs of all NS. If National Socialism isnt universal, tell me how their are Japanese National Socialist party's and even Iranian ones?
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Post by geirr on Feb 2, 2004 5:33:37 GMT -5
That link was nothing more but trash. You wish to read something that will explain National Socialism? National Socialism is about viewing the race/nation/society, which every way you look at it, as an organic living being. Their are to be no class divisions and everyone must look for the better of the group then the individual. You believe in helping the whole to evolve higher then the state they are now. NS believe in Blood and Soil, the rules of nature. Those are the true core beliefs of all NS. If National Socialism isnt universal, tell me how their are Japanese National Socialist party's and even Iranian ones? They probably have national socialist organisations in Papua New Guinea as well too, I believe you. "As a State the German Reich shall include all Germans. Its task is not only to gather in and foster the most valuable sections of our people but to lead them slowly and surely to a dominant position in the world. " (Mein Kampf Volume Two - The National Socialist Movement Chapter II: The State) www.hitler.org/writings/Mein_Kampf/ |
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Post by Archangelos on Feb 2, 2004 9:48:35 GMT -5
And your point? Hence that is what German National Socialism teaches, now try switching German for any other Nation on earth.
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