UK whites will be minority by 2100

[HINDI]

UK whites will be minority by 2100

Special report: race issues in the UK

Anthony Browne
Sunday September 3, 2000
The Observer

Whites will be an ethnic minority in Britain by the end of the century. Analysis of official figures indicate that, at current fertility rates and levels of immigration, there will be more non-whites than whites by 2100.
It would be the first time in history that a major indigenous population has voluntarily become a minority, rather than through war, famine or disease. Whites will be a minority in London by 2010.

In the early 1950s there were only a few tens of thousands of non-whites in the UK. By 1991 that had risen to 3 million - 6 per cent of the population. The population of ethnic minorities has been growing at between 2 and 4 per cent a year. Net immigration has been running at record levels, with 185,000 newcomers last year.

Government forecasts suggest that immigration on its own will be responsible for half the growth of the British population over the next couple of decades.

New immigrants, who are on average younger than the population at large, also tend to have higher fertility rates. In contrast, the population of white British citizens is static. Their fertility rate is very low - at under 2 children per woman - and there is overall emigration of British citizens.

The analysis of the figures showed that if the population of ethnic minorities grows at 4 per cent a year, whites will become a minority before 2100. The demographer who made the calculation wished to remain anonymous for fear of accusations of racism.

[Melnorme]

Who knows what'll happen till 2100, though?

Do you think people accurately predicted the previous century's population swings in 1900?

[Arawn]

Got anything from after the last census (2001)?

Bare in mind that lots of these 'non whites' will be half English, from all those punjabi girls that can't stay away from Englishmen.

[Artemisia]

I believe it! Look at France, they have the same problem. Italy and Greece too. In 2050, the Greeks will be a minority in Greece! If they don't get the Albanian migrants out, they will have problems bigtime! The worst thing is that people like Albanians, Kurds, and Pakistanis have lots of children.

[galvez]

HINDI said:

The demographer who made the calculation wished to remain anonymous for fear of accusations of racism.

Gee, aren't we living in a more "tolerant" world! Actually, it is my preference for European nations to maintain their homogeneity, but given recent hostilities from Northern Europeans I am less inclined to be concerned over what happens over there. I am much more concerned with the happenings in the Mediterranean world.

[Praetor]

Artemisia said:

I believe it! Look at France, they have the same problem. Italy and Greece too. In 2050, the Greeks will be a minority in Greece! If they don't get the Albanian migrants out, they will have problems bigtime! The worst thing is that people like Albanians, Kurds, and Pakistanis have lots of children.

I don't really mind about the Albanians. Greece has absorbed two major waves of Albanian migration the last 600 years easily. Nowdays many of their women marry Greeks,so their children automatically become Greek. Many of them change their surnames into Greek ones. My sister is an english teacher and she has lots of Albanian students that do not even speak their mother tongue,they don't like to be called Albanians and generally little bit disclaim their heritage in order to embrace the Greek one.Like always,it takes them only one generation to be absorbed...In racial terms southern Albanians are very very near Greeks and northern aren't that far anyway.And when Albania becomes even little prosperous many of the original immigrants are gonna take the way back home.Their home is next door anyway. About the rest...I don't know. I wish all of them were Serbs or so,it is always so easy with them in Greece. About Arabs,Asians and Africans I will just comment that the rate of mixed weddings between them and Greeks is still extremely low although it lately seems to rise a bit.We probably have around a million arabs asians and africans living in Greece and yet there must be tenths of times more Greek/scandinavian weddings than Greek/non-european ones.

[HINDI]

I agree with you Galvez.

[AWAR]

True about Albanians. There is nothing wrong about them except their destructive tradition/culture ( Mind you, Serbs and Montenegrins aren't very far from that ).

It's a great mistake of Serbs and Greeks for not assimilating Albanians more. Nowadays, it's more like the Albanians will assimilate Serbs and Greeks.

I think that currently, the powers-that-be are giving 'lebensraum' to Albanians ( Kosovo and West Macedonia ) soon they'll assimilate Muslims from Sanjak, and then, the next are Christian nations in the region.

Critical mass for any nation is around 10 million people. Once Albanians get to this number, there won't be any stopping them ( in favour of Serbs and Greeks ).

[Praetor]

AWAR said:

True about Albanians. There is nothing wrong about them except their destructive tradition/culture ( Mind you, Serbs and Montenegrins aren't very far from that ).

It's a great mistake of Serbs and Greeks for not assimilating Albanians more. Nowadays, it's more like the Albanians will assimilate Serbs and Greeks.

I think that currently, the powers-that-be are giving 'lebensraum' to Albanians ( Kosovo and West Macedonia ) soon they'll assimilate Muslims from Sanjak, and then, the next are Christian nations in the region.

Critical mass for any nation is around 10 million people. Once Albanians get to this number, there won't be any stopping them ( in favour of Serbs and Greeks ).

Interesting point of view but I believe that the albanian times of glory have passed. UCK became powerfull only after the US decided to seek allies in the balkans among the muslims.In the post 9-11 world islamist albanians are a liability to the US.They know they can't really controll them. I will be very surprised to see a de jure independent Kossovo...By the way,seclularist albanians have not the best relation with the fanatic kossovars you know and their goverment is afraid of UCK bastards. Serbia and Montenegro lost so much ground because of Milosevic. Greece on the other hand is a member of EU and NATO ,Albania can't threaten us.Not in 50 years.

[AWAR]

I wish I was so sure about that.
Today there was a Serbian woman on TV who escaped from an Albanian death camp in Kosovo.

She was tortured and raped for the last 3 years or so.

Such death camps can not exist on such a small teritory without the approval of USA, the EU and UN.

[Praetor]

Sure,the damage has been done already but it is too troublesome to get rid of UCK from Kossovo. Anyway Albanians are trying to destabilize poor and week FYROM for the past 4 years (Tetovo area) and they are unable to do it. Do you think they can bother Greece? I have read an interview of an Albanian guy that claimed that his side is ready to raise dissidents in Greece using the local immigrants and the Tsiami minority.That "minority" of course identifies itself predomintantly as Greek . He also stated that they will annex by force the whole Greek Epirus all the way to Arta. And this guy is an Albanian "rebel". What a waste,he should be a stand up comedian...

[alex221166]

Praetor said:

What a waste,he should be a stand up comedian...

I disagree. He should be arrested.

[Artemisia]

Praetor said:

I don't really mind about the Albanians. Greece has absorbed two major waves of Albanian migration the last 600 years easily. Nowdays many of their women marry Greeks,so their children automatically become Greek. Many of them change their surnames into Greek ones. My sister is an english teacher and she has lots of Albanian students that do not even speak their mother tongue,they don't like to be called Albanians and generally little bit disclaim their heritage in order to embrace the Greek one.Like always,it takes them only one generation to be absorbed...In racial terms southern Albanians are very very near Greeks and northern aren't that far anyway.And when Albania becomes even little prosperous many of the original immigrants are gonna take the way back home.Their home is next door anyway. About the rest...I don't know. I wish all of them were Serbs or so,it is always so easy with them in Greece. About Arabs,Asians and Africans I will just comment that the rate of mixed weddings between them and Greeks is still extremely low although it lately seems to rise a bit.We probably have around a million arabs asians and africans living in Greece and yet there must be tenths of times more Greek/scandinavian weddings than Greek/non-european ones.

Are you an Arvanitis? I'm sorry to say, but only an Arvanitis (a Greek citizen of Albanian origin) would say what you said.
If Albanian women marry Greek citizens, it is usually Arvanites as very few if any true Greeks would want them. Most Greek men don't even want to sleep with Albanian women....even the ones in brothels were recently sent to Belgium because they had AIDS and were seen as dirty whores!

To all the Greeks on this forum: THE ALBANIANS HATE YOU MORE THAN ANYTHING IN THE WORLD!!!!!!!! Get this straight! I've lived in Albania and know their language; they refer to Greeks as "mut" (shit) and call them dogs. And this goes for ALL Greeks!!!!

The same problem is true of our Serbian friends, but they seem to know the Albanians better than the Greeks!

[AWAR]

I doubt that no Greek will sleep with an Albanian woman, there are some extremely good looking Albanian women I've seen.

( I had an affair with an Albanian girl, wanna make something out of it ;D )

In any case, assimilation was and is the key to stability, if Albanians don't become civilized, assimilated, we'll never have peace in the Balkans.

I'd never propagate extermination of Albanians, they are the same people as other Balkanians genetically. They are a danger, but only because we didn't deal with them wisely.

[Artemisia]

AWAR said:

I doubt that no Greek will sleep with an Albanian woman, there are some extremely good looking Albanian women I've seen.

( I had an affair with an Albanian girl, wanna make something out of it ;D )

In any case, assimilation was and is the key to stability, if Albanians don't become civilized, assimilated, we'll never have peace in the Balkans.

I'd never propagate extermination of Albanians, they are the same people as other Balkanians genetically. They are a danger, but only because we didn't deal with them wisely.

Hmmm, well then speak for yourself, AWAR!

There are beautiful Albanian girls, I am not denying it, but all the Greek men I know see them as dirty (most of them are!) Only a desperate Greek man who can't find another girl would sleep with an Albanian (or, someone who is a Greek citizen of Albanian origin).

That's exactly the problem. By allowing Albanians to live in YOUR society, you make them hate you. Let them live in their own country.