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Post by Ilmatar on Dec 9, 2005 8:30:43 GMT -5
He isn't a professor, exactly, but is teaching in the University of Oulu. And yes, I read both the article I found here and another one in Finnish I found online. However, I got the idea he kind of just "threw" the idea there, and that there would be another study somewhere giving a more wider vision on the matter.
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Post by jam on Dec 9, 2005 8:43:23 GMT -5
Is this what Coon said?
"As these pictures show, the East Baltic is not a stable or a basic racial type, but a variable blend."
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Post by Agrippa on Dec 9, 2005 9:36:44 GMT -5
Nordids and West Baltids which are related to Dalofaelids and Cromagnoid are strong in Finns and Balts. Typical Baltids look different, Eastbaltids even much more so - they look Lappoid influenced. Actually someone has argued - I have yet to find the original source, though - that in the mordern Europe Finns are the ethnic group that comes closest to the Cromagnons metrically. And I wonder would the fact that Finns are prevailingly West Baltids mean that the true East Baltids are actually Central Russian ? Finns have various racial types - in fact mostly Nordid and all elements of Osteuropids. I saw both West and Eastbaltid-Lappoid influenced Finns. At a party I met a group of Finnish students which were all Nordid rather, but thats obviously episodic and students are a sieving group too...
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Post by Lada on Dec 11, 2005 5:50:56 GMT -5
Alpine East-Baltid
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Post by Glenlivet on Dec 11, 2005 16:40:02 GMT -5
Sieving? Do you mean special or selected? and students are a sieving group too...
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Post by Agrippa on Dec 11, 2005 21:01:54 GMT -5
Sieving? Do you mean special or selected? and students are a sieving group too... Lets say filtered. So out of the genpool of the population certain variants will be more often students - could say selected too...
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Post by Ilmatar on Dec 13, 2005 10:15:47 GMT -5
At a party I met a group of Finnish students which were all Nordid rather, but thats obviously episodic and students are a sieving group too... I'd say Finnish students represent the national average better than any other students, due to the fact that the educational system is very equelitarian. Universities are practically free and students get state subsidies in addition to the loans. In addition Finnish Universities tend to "recruit" students not only from the region, but from all around the country. The only reason resulting to Nordids being overrepresented among the students would be a correllation between Nordid phenotype and Academic achievements. But I really doubt that, since some of the "academically" smartest people (doing remarkably well in exams, graduating early, going for academic career) I know are very visibly Baltid.
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Post by Agrippa on Dec 13, 2005 11:38:43 GMT -5
Its was a small and non-representative sample However, egalitarian measures in the social area and education dont lead to all people being represented the same way, but to a selection of those which have abilities away from those with a social background - so in fact quite often a stronger dominance of genetic over social factors. In a system like the US things are partly different since the selection is more based on social background - though social background always play in obviously even in the most egalitarian system...
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Post by MR on Dec 14, 2005 18:06:44 GMT -5
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Post by Liquid Len on Dec 27, 2005 10:28:16 GMT -5
Nordid - Uma Thurman has slight Mediterranoid admixture (rounded forehead). She's overall too gracile, and her lips are too full. (= Both Medish characters) Furthermore the great distance between the eyes is also atypical.
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Post by Mike the Jedi on Dec 27, 2005 10:44:59 GMT -5
East-Baltid She's strangely beautiful. I know if she went to school around here my classmates would probably ask her if she was part-Asian or something. Ah, the blissful ignorance of the masses.
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Post by labi on Dec 27, 2005 15:09:08 GMT -5
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Post by wendland on Dec 28, 2005 2:42:33 GMT -5
Reading these posts, also on other threads, shows how hard it is to classify people, how no one is usually in agreement. "Is x nordic, baltic, norid?" The nose seems one thing, lips another. All this is an argument for not "cutting peas into fourths". Aren't Atlantomeds (not 100% sure of the name) just nordics with brown hair (is it the blondness with a thin face that makes a nordic? Do the lips need to be thin?)? Do Baltics have to have grey eyes, a snub nose? It seems there's no agreement on this. And, these Brunns and Borrebys, it seems there's doubt about these "races" existing at all, they even look rather nordic.
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Post by Lada on Dec 28, 2005 5:05:28 GMT -5
Sometimes I wonder about Alpines and East-baltids. They are supposed to have strong heavy body built.But for exemp. in my country, there are a lot of people with typical Alpine or EB faces, but with thin, slender body built.
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Post by wendland on Dec 29, 2005 1:58:01 GMT -5
What Lada says just goes to show that all these different "races", that differ in various relatively minor details are ill-defined. Example, lots of round headed, big headed people with slender long-legged bodies. Or, "Nordic" types with pug noses and thick lips, etc..., etc...
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