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Post by Nichol on Nov 30, 2003 22:49:59 GMT -5
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Post by Arawn on Dec 1, 2003 9:26:57 GMT -5
What format are those pics/webpages? All i get is screwy text   |
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Post by HINDI on Dec 1, 2003 19:35:21 GMT -5
last one Askenazi?
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Post by Caipira on Dec 1, 2003 19:39:07 GMT -5
For me, the first one is Nordic... The second Alpine and the third Mediterranean...
Caipira!!
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Post by Nichol on Dec 3, 2003 13:17:51 GMT -5
Sorry about that, Arawn. The pictures loaded fine for me.
Okay, to reveal the identities and ethnicities of the women. The first woman is myself. The second is my mother's father's mother (my great-grandmother) and the third is my mother's mother (my grandmother). My great-grandmother was English, Scots-Irish and Apache in ancestry. My grandmother was a mix of Irish, Dutch, German, and Melungeon (a tri-racial mestee group from the Appalachias).
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Post by Dienekes on Dec 3, 2003 15:17:58 GMT -5
Sorry about that, Arawn. The pictures loaded fine for me. I had a similar problem in viewing these images. |
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Post by Caipira on Dec 5, 2003 23:07:31 GMT -5
Well... It looks like a very exotic combination with an excelent result!  Anyway... Who are the "Melungeon" Caipira !! |
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Post by Arawn on Dec 5, 2003 23:45:46 GMT -5
I tried the links using Internet explorer and they worked fine, so its obviously my regular browser (Firebird) not recognising the pictures.
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Post by TSUNTZU on Dec 7, 2003 1:38:03 GMT -5
1. A young child bearing white woman, very pretty, good genes. I hope she is not a racemixer, that would be a waste.  2. A white woman of indeterminant age. She looks as if she had a rough life because of the unhappy look on her face. She seems to staring off camera, maybe she didn't care to have her picture taken. Maybe she didn't go for the latest trends of her day, like that camera at the time of the picture taken. I am assuming this is an very old photo. Whatever hardships this woman had to endure, at least she wasn't bombarded with the racemixing propaganda of mtv, vh1 and the televitz. 3. Mongol - Turkic - Khazar type |
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Post by Nichol on Dec 8, 2003 13:43:21 GMT -5
TSUNTZU: A young child bearing white woman, very pretty, good genes. I hope she is not a racemixer, that would be a waste.
*laughs hysterically*
If you knew anything about my ethnic makeup, you'd know racial purity was about the furthest thing from my ancestor's minds.
A white woman of indeterminant age. She looks as if she had a rough life because of the unhappy look on her face. She seems to staring off camera, maybe she didn't care to have her picture taken. Maybe she didn't go for the latest trends of her day, like that camera at the time of the picture taken. I am assuming this is an very old photo. Whatever hardships this woman had to endure, at least she wasn't bombarded with the racemixing propaganda of mtv, vh1 and the televitz.
Yes, my great-grandmother did have a very hard life -- she died shortly after that picture was taken. Contrary to your assumptions, she was a professional photographer by trade -- it's her husband, my great-grandfather, holding the camera for that picture.
As for the rest of your comment, I've become convinced you're a troll. No one could really say such silly things and believe them, at least not with a straight face!
Mongol - Turkic - Khazar type
That Mongol/Turk/Khazar was the grandmother of the white woman you were waxing poetic about earlier.
As for Melungeons... they're an odd bunch, a tri-racial Mestee group from the Appalachias in the same vein as the Lumbees (from whence blonde bombshell Heather Locklear is descended).
DNA testing done on 100 women of Melungeon descent -- the men's results have yet to come back -- show 5% genetic markers in common with Amerindian populations, 5% genetic markers in common with African populations, and 90% genetic markers in common with Eurasian populations. In the latter group there is a 7% grouping of lines from Turkey, Syria, northern India, and Sephardic Jewish populations. Dr. James Guthrie's 1969 gene frequency research on 177 samples of the blood of Melungeon descendants indicated no major differences between Melungeons and most of the North Africans, Libyans, Canary Islanders, Maltese, and Cypriots. We are also especially vulnerable to diseases found mainly in Mediterranean populations, such as Machado-Joseph's Disease or Behçet's syndrome.
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Post by TSUNTZU on Dec 8, 2003 22:48:46 GMT -5
TSUNTZU: A young child bearing white woman, very pretty, good genes. I hope she is not a racemixer, that would be a waste. *laughs hysterically* If you knew anything about my ethnic makeup, you'd know racial purity was about the furthest thing from my ancestor's minds. You might be surprised what any of our ancestors were thinking when selecting a mate. These days, it is difficult for most people to conceive ethnic and racial pride of the past because we are bombarded with all this egalitarian multi - racial pop culture nonesense. "Pure" is such a poor word to use to describe the need to preserve a race for continued existance. I just looked at your picture again and your coloring is about the same as mine, maybe you are little lighter than me but none the less the same. However, nobody would mistake us to be related, we do look different. All white people, including ourselves, have those unique and special characteristics that can only be taken to be exclusively white, not mixedrace. Our ancestors didn't need to have racial integrity on their mind much of the time because in the past, Western Culture was strong and promoted a sense of community among the white race. Again, difficult to conceive this concept for much of the white race today because just about every white majority country is being swamped with non white immigrants and at the same time bombarded with egalitarian multi - racial nonesense via the vile pop culture virus through the TELEVITZ. Yes, my great-grandmother did have a very hard life -- she died shortly after that picture was taken. I'm sorry to hear that. As for the rest of your comment, I've become convinced you're a troll. No one could really say such silly things and believe them, at least not with a straight face! The troll comment means you have taken on a hostile position. Don't fall into the same closed mind mode as AWAR. Just because you don't see the importance or impact the TELEVITZ has on our culture, the Western Culture, doesn't mean you can just ignore that impact. Again, as I said before, racemixing is ancient. However, the celebration and the aggressive promotion of it on the TELEVITZ through videos, movies and like mediums is a very recent trend even for modern mass communications. Mongol - Turkic - Khazar type That Mongol/Turk/Khazar was the grandmother of the white woman you were waxing poetic about earlier. As for Melungeons... they're an odd bunch, a tri-racial Mestee group from the Appalachias in the same vein as the Lumbees (from whence blonde bombshell Heather Locklear is descended). DNA testing done on 100 women of Melungeon descent -- the men's results have yet to come back -- show 5% genetic markers in common with Amerindian populations, 5% genetic markers in common with African populations, and 90% genetic markers in common with Eurasian populations. In the latter group there is a 7% grouping of lines from Turkey, Syria, northern India, and Sephardic Jewish populations. Dr. James Guthrie's 1969 gene frequency research on 177 samples of the blood of Melungeon descendants indicated no major differences between Melungeons and most of the North Africans, Libyans, Canary Islanders, Maltese, and Cypriots. We are also especially vulnerable to diseases found mainly in Mediterranean populations, such as Machado-Joseph's Disease or Behçet's syndrome. To be honest, I am not good at this guess the race horse flop games. They're silly. I wrote that comment on a whim. Basically, she looks white. I have noticed you follow the slightly annoying Racial Myths routine of giving blood analysis and genetic markers and things of the sort. I have been posting on RM msg board for over a year and half or so. And let me tell you, some of the arguments about who was whiter would rage for weeks on end. I remember this one argument that lasted awhile between prodigal son, corded to the core and RM over who had the most non white genetic markers, meds or slavs. Personally, I thought such arguments were nonesense, white is white I say. But oh no, the slavs would go on about all the supposed negro genes in meds and the meds(RM and Dienekes and the med mafia) would go on about these particular markers that were common in slavs. The med posters would say these markers in slavs are mongoloid. Oh, you should've seen the hostility of the slav posters, they went on a toot for days. On and on, about how the markers were not from siberia or mongolia. I mean, the slav posters spammed the living sh*t out RMs board like nobodies business. I would think to myself, such brilliance on both parties and what a waste of white talent biKKKering amongst ourselves when the real trolls were the negro posters and this one mixed race poster, a woman from LA. She seem nice enough but a real flake. She was convinced a mixedrace woman and a mixedrace man could bore a white looking child. She would post endless pictures of mixed folks to some how prove her point. It was harmless enough because it wasn't convincing at all. Oh I almost forgot, the Jews were always trying to sneek in that Franz Boas crap about how race is a construct crapola. It didn't fly to well, even the dumbest white poster knew that was horse flop. I guess what I am saying is I realize there is a little admixture of non white in all of us white folks at different small amounts but so far the white race is still here. For how long, I don't know. There is such a thing as miscegenation. It has happened in the past before to some people or another. However, the grand scale to which it is promoted through pop culture on the TELEVITZ in the industrialized white majority countries is no lafffing matter. Ask yourself this. Why is that so? Is it entertaining? Is it more profitable? |
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Post by bloke on Dec 8, 2003 23:23:01 GMT -5
Not taking sides but i see Black rap, hip hop etc as a way they think they can integrate into western culture and we have seen there style of music displayed as 'cool` while Classical music which was born in europe taking a backseat being 'not-cool`........... One morning i got on the bus and the driver who was black muttered to me 'where you go today ?` so i replied i need a 10 journey ticket to st augustine church.......it took him 2 minutes to figure out how much change i needed..... While im all for equal oppotunities and that im not for putting illegal immigrants into cheap jobs where they can be expoited..... I know this is probably not relevant but it does display why we are born where we are. |
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Post by AWAR on Dec 8, 2003 23:29:51 GMT -5
One morning i got on the bus and the driver who was black muttered to me 'where you go today ?` so i replied i need a 10 journey ticket to st augustine church.......it took him 2 minutes to figure out how much change i needed..... Maybe he stopped for a moment when he remembered of st augustine church back home in Nigeria where he spent his childhood, happy, and without math classes. |
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Post by Kukul-Kan on Dec 9, 2003 10:31:34 GMT -5
You might be surprised what any of our ancestors were thinking when selecting a mate. These days, it is difficult for most people to conceive ethnic and racial pride of the past because we are bombarded with all this egalitarian multi - racial pop culture nonesense. But you failed to realize Nichol said the ethnic identity of the Melungeon is based on a racial mixed heritage. Apparently they take pride in being mixed. At least that's what I understood. |
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Post by TSUNTZU on Dec 10, 2003 0:27:28 GMT -5
But you failed to realize Nichol said the ethnic identity of the Melungeon is based on a racial mixed heritage. Apparently they take pride in being mixed. At least that's what I understood. In my mind, that is not the case. I know this view of mine may counter Nichols intended point. However, look at Nichols picture. She is, w/o a doubt, a white woman not mixed race. As I said before or maybe I implied it, there is small amounts of non white admixture in European descended people of various small amounts. I realize this. Given this, it is sometimes chic or trendy for some whites, now a days, to play up the possible small amounts of non white ancestry in their background even if the person is unmistakenly and w/o a doubt white. |
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