Where will the new Pope come from?

[captainusa1]

deuce said:

Yes. The election of John Paul broke the mold, not just in terms of his nationality, but his age as well. He was elected as Pope when he was 58. The average age at which a pope is elected is 65 and over. You can read a bit more about how age influences matters here .

Thanks for the link. Speaking of nationality, it must have been ages since there were two non-Italian popes in a row. I think that the next pope could be from a non-European country. My guess is that the present pope was chosen based on his beliefs and his experience, and those reasons precluded choosing a pontiff from a Third World country.

[Circe]

QVP said:

Catholicism is the greatest religion and yes it is correlated with the Alpish race-types. The more narrow-headed of the north/south have simplified religions like Protestantism and Islam, quite simple uncomplicated ones really and adapted to their own level of cerebral development.

Are you suggesting that the Catholics are cerebrally more developed and thus more intelligent than the adherents of other religions or Christian denominations?
What are your views on Orthodox Chrisitianity for example? Or Buddhism?

[buddyrydell]

Ratzinger seems very much like John Paul II, perhaps even more conservative from what I've been hearing. Well, if he's like John Paul II, that's a very good thing, though Ratzinger has some tough shoes to fill.

[nockwasright]

Circe said:

Are you suggesting that the Catholics are cerebrally more developed and thus more intelligent than the adherents of other religions or Christian denominations?
What are your views on Orthodox Chrisitianity for example? Or Buddhism?

I am starting to feel a strange admiration for this QVP fellow who actually suceeded in dragging otherwise reasonable persons into a discussion about Catholics' subrace. My two cents on this "subject": actually he seems to forget that the most catholic countries in Europe (aside of Poland) are Spain Portugal and Italy, more Med than Alpine. Plus, he forgets South America, Med, Black and Amerindian ... I wouldn't say the majority of Catholics are Alpine.

On the other hand, he is right about Bavaria: one of the highest GNP areas in the world now, one of the most civilsed and learned areas of the world for centuries and now. In "ancient times" the non peasants were a negligible fraction of the population everywhere. However the Catholic reigion spread from Rome, at the time the most developed and urbanised area.

@captain: last time we had two non Italian Popes in a row: A.D. 1370

[Circe]

nockwasright said:

I am starting to feel a strange admiration for this QVP fellow who actually suceeded in dragging otherwise reasonable persons into a discussion about Catholics' subrace.

hehehe
It's just that I simply love his answers ;D
Hope he won't get banned

[henerte]

QVP is partly right. But only partly.

The most conservative areas of Europe (it's a good foundation for a strong faith) are mountains.
-The most conservative part of Germany is Bavaria (very mountainous)
-Austria seems to me to be more conservative than Germany
-The most conservative part of Poland is south
-The most conservative country in Scandinavia seems to be Norway

Many of these areas are indeed Alpinid or Alpish (this subrace is known for inhabiting rather mountainious areas)

Also Ireland is quite Alpish as compared to GB. And Greece, of course.


Nockwasright mentioned enough of examples, proving these Alpish-theories to be a hoax. From my side I will only quote the Czech Rep. - one of the most alpish countries and yet the most atheist.

[Crimson Guard]

He's a vatican II hardliner and an almost carbon copy of John Paul II.

Having another non-Italians in the papacy is a sign that the church is heading down hill.

[Q. Valerius Priscus]

Circe said:

Are you suggesting that the Catholics are cerebrally more developed and thus more intelligent than the adherents of other religions or Christian denominations?

No! Members of all racial taxa are Catholic, and the Catholic Church embraces all humanity and not only the more progressive types. The Alpish types tend to Catholicism more than the Nordid types. Poland is Baltid and Catholic, but Sweden is Nordid and Lutheran. Germany is more Alpish and Catholic in the south, and more Nordid and Protestant in the North. France is Alpish and more Catholic than England f.e.

Circe said:

What are your views on Orthodox Chrisitianity for example? Or Buddhism?

Orthodox Christianity is sound and practiced by thoroughly Alpish Dinarids, Alpinids and Baltids. I pray for the unity of the Catholic and Orthodox Churches. The Armenians follow their own church, and they are brachycephalic, hairy, and progressive, while the Kurds and Arabs are more narrow-headed and Muslim. The Orientalids and the Berberids are narrow-headed and Muslim.

In Spain and Portugal the Alpish element is weaker but they are good Catholics, and mestizos in Latin America are Catholic too. Catholicism is practiced by humans from around the world, but Catholicism and other advanced religions like Orthodox Christianity and Armenian Christianity are always practiced wherever there is a strong Alpish element.

I don't like Buddhism, because according to the Catholic Church, salvation is only possible through Jesus Christ. I pray that the Buddhists will see the error of their ways.

[Circe]

Thanks for answering.
I must say I expected a more acrimonious reply, and was pleasantly surprised to see it is not

QVP said:

No! Members of all racial taxa are Catholic, and the Catholic Church embraces all humanity and not only the more progressive types. The Alpish types tend to Catholicism more than the Nordid types. Poland is Baltid and Catholic, but Sweden is Nordid and Lutheran. Germany is more Alpish and Catholic in the south, and more Nordid and Protestant in the North. France is Alpish and more Catholic than England f.e.

While your classification of the Swedish, Polish, etc. is correct, I doubt that their brachycephaly or dolichocephaly influnced their religious beliefs and denominational preferences.
They were influenced by their culture and historical circumstances to accept Catholic or some other tenet, not by the shape of their skulls.

However, you seem adamant in your views, so I have no intention of convincing you to change them, or of discussing the matter further.

[vela]

Circe said:

Thanks for answering.
I must say I expected a more acrimonious reply, and was pleasantly surprised to see it is not


While your classification of the Swedish, Polish, etc. is correct, I doubt that their brachycephaly or dolichocephaly influnced their religious beliefs and denominational preferences.
They were influenced by their culture and historical circumstances to accept Catholic or some other tenet, not by the shape of their skulls.

However, you seem adamant in your views, so I have no intention of convincing you to change them, or of discussing the matter further.

I wouldn't say adamant but rather a one-track-mind perspective.

This system that explains everything based on whether a person is of Alpish type or not is, to say the least, is so simplistic to the extreme that we can predict all QPV's answers in every matter.

[Circe]

Vela said:

I wouldn't say adamant but rather a one-track-mind perspective.

I was trying to be polite

and to sound educated and well-read ;D

[nockwasright]

Vela said:

This system that explains everything based on whether a person is of Alpish type or not is, to say the least, is so simplistic to the extreme that we can predict all QPV's answers in every matter.

No way, as this reasoning is unalpish and regressive

[murphee]

Sometimes, it seems the world is small...Last night, my Jewish father attended a Seder at a friend's place in New York. He told me today that a Catholic man also attended, and that he had used to work for the Vatican. He knew the Pope very well, describing Cardinal Ratzinger as "very intelligent, conservative and a good man."