EXtreme islamist see other people like chickens

[LibLabDog]

Islam is pretty clearly seen as a colonial force by the United States. I'm not sure Europe get's this. Europe can IGNORE this fact. You/They are more then welcome to.

Islam will not attack you, as long as you let them gain greater control of your country, in terms of numbers or influence. However, later they may attack you anyways, if they perceive you have policies that they don't agree with as in Spain. ...They will not be so silly as to express disatisfaction, or lobby the government for change. They will use violence.

Assasinate the Pope? ...This is just the new attempt. They foiled an attempt a few years back. This is not new. Neither was 9-11. Radical Muslims attacked the World Trade Center 7 years before.

Europe can cry like a baby all it wants to. They can call the United States evil, they can declare that the Jews in Israel are the REAL racists. ...But the fact remains, that Islam is coming.

It's a little funny to watch the EU consider membership of Turkey and other Muslim nations that will flood Europe. It's a little like watching a cat approach a mouse trap, gently pawing the tastey morsel fixed on top. Getting closer to sniff it.

Even when small numbers are let in, they will have many children, and abuse laws to bring more Muslims in through arranged marriages. They will have little to no desire to integrate. (...And Europe is just as guilty for having little or no desire to integrate them either.)

Muslims have much too strong a sense of cultural identity to be admitted in the large numbers that Europe is admitting them in. Maybe in 2-3 generations they may integrate, but not anytime soon. ...And certainly not if they are the ONLY significant immigrant group.

I feel Europe is a little naive in how it handles it's immigration policies. They would be much better off letting in Chinese, Thai, and other ethnic groups that don't have this violent history, and tribalism. One has to be wondering, what the Europeans are thinking.

[visigodo]

As first a European citizen, and as a U.S. citizen second, I can see that perhaps what works for one nation such as the U.S. may not work for all nations, in particular the European Union. The U.S. is a country for the most part made of people from across the globe. This in general seems works for the U.S. Then again this melting pot is an ongoing experiment which only has been running for less than 400 years. (Who knows when individual pockets of large numbers of a certain groups of peoples within the U.S. start forming and feel a separate community and identity within a nation. This sort of fragmentation can lead to separatism or at worst rebellion or independence, due to this lack of homogenous population or harmony within its borders) So one day the melting pot, could boil over.

This system cannot work, in the E.U. In Europe there is growing discontent with its immigrant population. Not just from radical right wing groups, but the left wing groups are also getting fed up with immigrants. Many people perhaps think the left group is the one that will bring harmony to both and unite all peoples together. In Europe trade unions are vital to the left, who depend on unions to get them into public offices. But it’s this growing discontent with immigrants (warranted or not) that the unions are starting express to the left, their dissatisfaction and for which the left must act out on. Eventually I see a convergence of the right and left, a meeting of the minds if you will, and you will see a curbing of past immigration policy.

The growing discontent in Europe is not for just the radical Islamic groups, in Italy and France there is growing discontent with Asian groups. Germany has started to look into cutting back Indian, and Pakistan residency which are taking jobs away from the local residents there. Spain has in the recent years had an increase in Latin American groups arriving.

So the problem in Europe I would say is with people, non-Europeans/ non-white arriving or wanting to arrive in droves into the continent. It’s difficult to really blame Europeans. Why should the rest of the world views us as a continent that must or has the duty to invite foreigners into our nations? To bring down the cost of labor down? To help the firm become richer? Utter non-sense, yet these people in there own nations such as India, or China drastically limit if not forbid altogether any foreigners to emigrate. Although Europe is made up of various nations all of those individual nations within that encompassing union are for the most part made up of homogenous populations who is anyone to tell us to accept outside people. What works for the U.S., I cannot see it working for us. We must stop outside foreign emigration and encourage or birth rates in to increase.

[Quintos]

Visigodo said:

As first a European citizen, and as a U.S. citizen second, I can see that perhaps what works for one nation such as the U.S. may not work for all nations, in particular the European Union. The U.S. is a country for the most part made of people from across the globe. This in general seems works for the U.S. Then again this melting pot is an ongoing experiment which only has been running for less than 400 years. (Who knows when individual pockets of large numbers of a certain groups of peoples within the U.S. start forming and feel a separate community and identity within a nation. This sort of fragmentation can lead to separatism or at worst rebellion or independence, due to this lack of homogenous population or harmony within its borders) So one day the melting pot, could boil over.

This system cannot work, in the E.U. In Europe there is growing discontent with its immigrant population. Not just from radical right wing groups, but the left wing groups are also getting fed up with immigrants. Many people perhaps think the left group is the one that will bring harmony to both and unite all peoples together. In Europe trade unions are vital to the left, who depend on unions to get them into public offices. But it’s this growing discontent with immigrants (warranted or not) that the unions are starting express to the left, their dissatisfaction and for which the left must act out on. Eventually I see a convergence of the right and left, a meeting of the minds if you will, and you will see a curbing of past immigration policy.

The growing discontent in Europe is not for just the radical Islamic groups, in Italy and France there is growing discontent with Asian groups. Germany has started to look into cutting back Indian, and Pakistan residency which are taking jobs away from the local residents there. Spain has in the recent years had an increase in Latin American groups arriving.

So the problem in Europe I would say is with people, non-Europeans/ non-white arriving or wanting to arrive in droves into the continent. It’s difficult to really blame Europeans. Why should the rest of the world views us as a continent that must or has the duty to invite foreigners into our nations? To bring down the cost of labor down? To help the firm become richer? Utter non-sense, yet these people in there own nations such as India, or China drastically limit if not forbid altogether any foreigners to emigrate. Although Europe is made up of various nations all of those individual nations within that encompassing union are for the most part made up of homogenous populations who is anyone to tell us to accept outside people. What works for the U.S., I cannot see it working for us. We must stop outside foreign emigration and encourage or birth rates in to increase.

Absolutely I agree with you some people think that the purpose of bringing in immigrants into European countries is to culturally enrich these nations but it is not its for money purposes. If we start measuring things by more then just money by the quality of our living ,security,culure and our national edentity then our standard is already declining more and more native bussines are being driven into bankruptcy by uncontrolled imports from Asia and other non-white areas. But not only is immigration and security a problem buttheir is also a cultural problem in Spain recently more people spent money for the video game known as San Andreas an popular X box game that glamorizes "gangstas" and their lifestyle what type of message is getting into our younger generation with MTV,Mc Donalds and other garbage circulating through the air waves?? NOT a good one when will the Europeans start standing up and say that is enough is enough but most of seem to blind to understand what is happening which is their extinction to deny this is to deny reality.