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Post by galvez on Jan 25, 2004 11:37:33 GMT -5
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Post by Silveira on Jan 25, 2004 12:03:10 GMT -5
Perhaps 90% of the leaders/followers of these American neo-nazi movements are nordicist (some more so, others less so). Then there are the non-nordicist ones such as Rienzi. Do you have any idea as to what happened to his "Legion Europa" site? Was it censored or did he change his political views?
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Post by galvez on Jan 25, 2004 12:29:47 GMT -5
Perhaps 90% of the leaders/followers of these American neo-nazi movements are nordicist (some more so, others less so). Then there are the non-nordicist ones such as Rienzi. Do you have any idea as to what happened to his "Legion Europa" site? Was it censored or did he change his political views? I have no idea why Legion Europa is down. It is a good resource because it has a lot of information relevant to these types of discussions, and refutes a lot of Nordicist claims. All Meds -- Southern Europeans -- are a part of my political ingroup, as far as I am concerned. This is not a racial thing but a political thing -- Nordicist lies must be countered. Fortunately, hardly anyone buys Nordicist lies. Mostly it is thuggish or uneducated Nazis who post online like cowards because they know there are no repercussions to their online behavior. I have no problem with Meds who embrace other philosophies, but they must remember that first and foremost they are Meds. When it comes down to it they will never be seen nor treated as equals by the neo-Nazis and White Nationalists. I hope Mr. Rienzi will continue contributing scientific and other articles. You don't have to agree with him to acknowledge that he has done a lot of good for Meds by refuting their opponents. |
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Post by Silveira on Jan 25, 2004 12:49:09 GMT -5
I am saddened by the fact that such a useful resource as Legion Europa is down. Rienzi, whether we agree with his political options or not, was a very articulate writer and presented serious arguements, grounded in real science, against the self-indulgent nordic fantasies of Kemp, anon, and other on-line sexual fetishists. My main point of disagreement with Rienzi was in his anti-Semitism and his uncritical reading of the role of Nazism in European history.
I am primarily concerned with Portugal and the Portuguese although I have a special sympathy for related cultures, such as those of Mediterranean Europe and Latin America. Most people of nordic countries which I have encountered appear to be very nice and do not display the character traits manifested on these internet forums. The nordic-supremacy types are viewed, for the most part, as marginal lunatics in those countries. However, nordicist theories were widely accepted about 100 years ago.
A good place to see room-temperature IQ "White Power Aryan Berzerkers" in action is at the VNN Forum.
I agree completely with the above statement in that the WN or NS philosophy will always put southern Europe on the bottom rung, with some people "accepting" us and others "not accepting" us. That is why I believe that these doctrines are not appropriate for Southern European nationalists who have any degree of self-respect or respect for the dignity of their peoples. Only we, and nobody else, will ever make sacrifices for our nations.
100% in agreement.
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Post by nobody you know on Jan 25, 2004 12:54:27 GMT -5
 ahahahahha! that is good to see. I despise nazis. I really cannot stand them, even most of the "liberal" types are the most slimiest individuals on earth. I can't say that on skadi though  |
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Post by galvez on Jan 25, 2004 12:57:40 GMT -5
ahahahahha! that is good to see. I despise nazis. I really cannot stand them, even most of the "liberal" types are the most slimiest individuals on earth. I can't say that on skadi though In this forum all viewpoints are allowed so long as they are presented in a civil manner. Welcome to Dodona. |
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Post by Silveira on Jan 25, 2004 13:38:29 GMT -5
Speaking of American neo-nazis, I believe that one of the people most responsible for the use of Portugal as an example of national decline caused by alleged "race mixing" was the late Dr. William Pierce. "The Black Man´s Gift to Portugal" was published by his organization in the early 1970s it is said that he frequently discussed the "example of Portugal" when addressing his followers. His organization, the National Alliance, also sells a book written by a failed priest named William Simpson which also derrides Portugal and which is cited in the bibliography of Kemp´s "March of the Titans".
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Post by nobody you know on Jan 25, 2004 15:01:06 GMT -5
In this forum all viewpoints are allowed so long as they are presented in a civil manner. Welcome to Dodona. thanks  |
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Post by WB on Feb 3, 2004 20:38:41 GMT -5
Ah yes, the so culturally informative March of the Titans.  It is ridiculous that I have to constantly correct people's misguided 'knowledge' of Portugal if it is brought up. I am half Portuguese (LONG line of ancestry from the Azores) and so I simply feel inclined to do so. Spain too, on the occasion. For example, when a lot of obviously Hispanic people claim they are 'Spanish' it bothers me for some reason - I don't know. Myself, as a Portuguese person, do not like being called a 'Mulato' or 'Latino' or any other one of the groups. I'm proud of my heritage, but I don't feel I need to join some political group dedicated to Portugal, and I especially don't feel I need to be dedicated to the 'Meds.' But that's just my preferance. |
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Post by Silveira on Feb 4, 2004 10:41:00 GMT -5
Most people are very ignorant about Portugal. Unfortunately, many people, especially young people who do not know any better, end up believing whatever some idiot without any authority to formulate an opinion has to say about Portugal on the internet. The Portuguese are frequently described as "latino" or whatever but the "mulatto" accusation is limited mainly to neo-nazis and the like, especially those who owe their political education to reading internet rubbish.
Nobody has said anything about joining a political organization. Some people are interested in politics, a great many others are not interested at all. It is however imperative that all Portuguese people honour their country and never allign themselves or join forces with people who despise us.
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Post by Tautalos on Feb 5, 2004 7:13:04 GMT -5
Even if some nordicists despise the Mediterraneans, it is not proper for any southern European Nationalist to be happy when any nordicist gets attacked.
If some nordicists divide the European nationalists, their action must be fought, and not helped with equivalent anti-nordicist atittudes.
Of course no Portuguese or any other southern European should join with people that despise us, but that's a different subject.
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Post by geirr on Feb 5, 2004 7:35:30 GMT -5
I kinda agree with tautalos, as much as I enjoy seeing a racist idiot get thumped, when they are not fighting others they are fighting amongst themselves. Its right to expose their lies and deceipt but we shouldn't get involved in celebrating the result of their actions. Just see it as an example of how they are wrong.
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Post by Graeme on Feb 7, 2004 9:42:44 GMT -5
I'm happy when racists get attacked. Why should they get off scot free? We are all allowed to think what we like, and have freedom of speech and are allowed to foster unpopular beliefs. However, that does not give anyone carte blanche to malign, slander or denigrate others.
I, as a Mediterranean person feel proud of my heritage, and the achievements made to the whole of Europe by the Greco-Roman civilisation. I know from my family history that I am not negroid or mongoloid and resent anyone telling me otherwise. There is nothing wrong with negroes or mongolians; both have made significant achievements eg Benin, Zimbabwe, Timbuktu, Tibetan culture, Chinese civilisations etc. The problem is being mislabelled, denigrated and subject to falsehoods passed off as historical or genetic facts.
The ancient Romans, Hellenes, Sumerians or Egyptians were not transplanted Swedes, Norwegians, Danes or Germans. Southern Europe is paradise and it is understandable that foreigners want to go there whether Moroccan berbers, Tunisian invaders of southern Italy,Ottaman Turks, Normans, Goths, Vandals.... But their genetic legacy has not been proven. The Romans exterminated the Carthagians whose colonies in Europe were small, usually islands connected by causeways at low tide eg Motya in Sicily. The Romans fought the Etruscans and exterminated many of them. That is what the ancients did; exterminate or form a small ruling class as in Britain and Gaul or set up colonies surrounded by large aboriginal populations. Whatever the case, most were defeated and sent packing leaving little behind including their genes.
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Post by galvez on Feb 12, 2004 0:09:12 GMT -5
Even if some nordicists despise the Mediterraneans, it is not proper for any southern European Nationalist to be happy when any nordicist gets attacked. You are dead wrong. These people want to ethnically cleanse Southern Europeans more than any other group -- even Blacks, Jews and mestizos. If you observe some of the more extremist elements you will see that they post for hours and hours attacking Meds and no other group. While Roper doesn't fall into this category -- for pragmatic reasons -- he has openly endorsed the work of Arthur Kemp. This is utterly irresponsible for someone claiming to be defending Europeans. The war was not declared by Southern Europeans. The war was declared by backwater types and assorted mongrels on the internet who have decided for whatever reason to show an intense animus toward Southern Europeans. Should Southern Europeans attack Nordicists? No. Violence is clearly not the solution (although self-defense is justified). Should Southern Europeans gloat when a Nordicist who runs an organization and endorses a book presenting Southern Europeans as mongrels and which steals their history gets a severe beating? Sure. For now, the ARA types can take care of the dirty work. Besides, since these are the dregs among the White race, the ARA types, by scaring them off and thus disrupting many of their planned demonstrations, are doing some social cleaning unwittingly. Why should Southern European nationalists care about what happens in other European nations? Other nationalists must prove they are allies before they receive any support from Southern Europeans. Being European doesn't entitle anyone to anything. Elin Nordegren marrying and making babies with Tiger Woods is of no consequence to Southern European countries. The Sicilians will be around long after Sweden turns into a mulatto nation. It's a cultural difference -- some wouldn't understand. |
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Post by Tautalos on Feb 12, 2004 6:23:24 GMT -5
«These people want to ethnically cleanse Southern Europeans»<br>
No, not all of them. Most of northern European racists/racialists, consider that all the Europeans are family. And if the man of the photograph did never attack the southern Europeans, there is absolutely no reason for a southern Nacionalist to be happy with such a tumping.
«Why should Southern European nationalists care about what happens in other European nations?»<br>
Because we are all of the same family. That is why southern European nationalists must care about what happens in other European nations.
Contrary to what you say, other Nationalists do not have to prove to be allies - actually, being of the same race and ethnic family - Indo-European - they are more than allies: they are family, until they prove the contrary.
Indeed, being European does entitles a person of something: the right to the other Europeans racial and ethnic solidarity.
So, if Elin Nordegren makes babies with Tiger Woods, that is indeed of our concern. Because whenever a white woman makes babies with a non white man, that is bad for the white race, no matter wether she is Swedish, Russian, Iranian or Hindu.
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