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Post by DeLacroix on Dec 14, 2005 7:40:46 GMT -5
Where I live, the few Lebanese that I've met seem to be the nicest people. In Italy, for what I see, lebanese seem to have one of most integrated and wealthy Near-eastern communities. People use to complain about northern africans and albanians, not about lebanese. Racism and racist acts are directed towards northern-africans (moraccans tunisians etc.), albanians, gypsies. I'd say that lebanese are helped by their physical appearence (many of them are undestinguishable from average italians)- but, on the other hand, albanians and "slavs" are even taller and fairer than italians, yet many of them face racism. While people has nothing agaisnt Senegalese, while tend to be racistic toward Nigerians... I'd say the real matter is how a community behave in the society in which she lives. With, sadly, innocents paying for the faults of the guilty ones... I don't think race plays a major part in all this so-called racism. Except gypsies, look at what do North-Africans, Albanians, and Nigerians share in common.
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Post by huzar on Dec 14, 2005 8:53:10 GMT -5
I'd say the majority of French people have closer historical connections to Celts, Iberians, and Latins. Give me proofs. Besides, ethnic french are clearly distinguished from southern Europeans. If you wanna see ethnic French don't go to major cities like Paris and Lyon, go to villages and small towns. Sorry, but to be really honest, i can't distinguish the major part of Northern-Italy from the major part of the France. North-italians are very similar to the central-southern French population. At this point there are only two possible explainations : 1) Frenchmen (major part) are southern european like northitalians 2) The opposite : (native)north-italians are central europeans like frenchmen I really don't think an average north-italian would be called "wog" in Australia or U.S.A. or everywhere.
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Post by syriano on Dec 14, 2005 9:12:14 GMT -5
I live in Sydney and am half Greek, and there is no hatred of Greeks or Italians here (at least not anymore) - the stigma is more strongly directed against Lebanese and other Middle Eastern people - the accounts you guys have given about Lebanese gangs intimidating and often raping Australian girls are unfortunately quite correct. No one said they were targeting mediterraneans, but unfortunatly, a lot of christian lebanese, armenians and southern europeans would be mistaken for muslim lebanese, if the aussies are too drunk and can't make the difference. lol why so much hate laudabilis? were you raped by a Lebanese muslim gay gang ?
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Post by DeLacroix on Dec 14, 2005 9:28:36 GMT -5
Give me proofs. Besides, ethnic french are clearly distinguished from southern Europeans. If you wanna see ethnic French don't go to major cities like Paris and Lyon, go to villages and small towns. Sorry, but to be really honest, i can't distinguish the major part of Northern-Italy from the major part of the France. North-italians are very similar to the central-southern French population. At this point there are only two possible explainations : 1) Frenchmen (major part) are southern european like northitalians 2) The opposite : (native)north-italians are central europeans like frenchmen I really don't think an average north-italian would be called "wog" in Australia or U.S.A. or everywhere. coming from you, it can't be described as, a very objective point of view. Just a question, why do you want to identify yourself with French and , you look down terribely on southern italy? Why all this obssesion with france, and all the contempt for southern italy? here is the core of your posts-------------> *Depends from what kind of italians you speak about ; from what i've seen, most northern part of Italy isn't different from France, (in the mean at least). * Italians aren't meds like many think, rather a mix of alpines and nordids ( at least where i live) *I'll post o a pic of a group my schoolmates ; they weren't so brunet like the pic you post. It depends very much from the part of Italy you live. * Italy isn't Med (or better, the part of Italy where i live) *Where i live, (Piemonte) unmixed native inhabitants are almost undistinguishable from French people*Is this your impression ? For me many north italians are not distinguishable from austrians or French*I searched alot on the web. It's true. Though, i have to add that italians from northern italy, were considered in a separate list from southern ones ; Northern were considered in the same "group" of French, substantially*When you say italians you mean (for the most part at least) southern italians and sicilians, true ? * I'm from Italy (northern part) and i would be considered white on whatever white/european nationalist site (northwestern supremacists included). *Your reasonment is right, but there is a little detail you forget. NorthItaly, isn't part of italian peninsula*Depends from what kind of italians you speak about ; from what i've seen, most northern part of Italy isn't different from France, (in the mean at least). LOL ;D
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Post by DeLacroix on Dec 14, 2005 9:32:43 GMT -5
No one said they were targeting mediterraneans, but unfortunatly, a lot of christian lebanese, armenians and southern europeans would be mistaken for muslim lebanese, if the aussies are too drunk and can't make the difference. lol why so much hate laudabilis? were you raped by a Lebanese muslim gay gang ? hate? hell no, just contempt. You've just given a new piece of information about your precious "way of being", so you also have gay-gangs who rape white men? LOL
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Post by Polako on Dec 14, 2005 10:22:05 GMT -5
Here in Australia anyone with a swarthy appearance is basically "non-white".
Those with UK pigmentation, or fairer, are white.
Italians, Greeks, Spaniards, Maltese, and other south Europeans are known as wogs, and often viewed as mixed. But they're fairly well integrated into society.
Second generation Central and Eastern Europeans are just seen the same as Anglo Aussies.
There's a bit of confusion here in regards to new arrivals from Poland, Russia, and so on. They're not really wogs, but they're obviously not Aussies either. Nevertheless, if they speak good English and don't dress too weird, then they're considered part of the landscape as well.
The groups that are generally looked down upon by the the white Aussies are the South East Asians, Middle Easterners and the Aboriginals. If you belong to these groups then you'll have a hard time breaking into the mainstream socially.
East Asians are also less likely to integrate into mainstream socially, but they're known as hard intelligent workers, and law abiding. So there's often a neutral view of them.
Indians are also viewed in that way, because they're also law abiding and fairly succesful. But yeah, they will also have trouble breaking into the white mainstream socially.
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Post by Oldbrit on Dec 14, 2005 11:45:49 GMT -5
Someone told me that in England they (thugs) spend one day out of the year attacking southern Europeans called "Latin day." Has anyone ever heard of this? It's never happened to me, and the Dutch took me for Iberian/Italian/Moroccan/Turkish when I was there. I've even been asked if I spoke English in England but not beaten up since 1969 by football skinheads who took against my 'fro.
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Post by penetratorx on Dec 14, 2005 12:07:01 GMT -5
That reminded me of something the British/Jewish comedian David Baddiel once said. He said he'd only ever been beaten up twice in Britain - once for being Jewish and once for being pakistani
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Post by huzar on Dec 14, 2005 14:23:02 GMT -5
Sorry, but to be really honest, i can't distinguish the major part of Northern-Italy from the major part of the France. North-italians are very similar to the central-southern French population. At this point there are only two possible explainations : 1) Frenchmen (major part) are southern european like northitalians 2) The opposite : (native)north-italians are central europeans like frenchmen I really don't think an average north-italian would be called "wog" in Australia or U.S.A. or everywhere. coming from you, it can't be described as, a very objective point of view. Just a question, why do you want to identify yourself with French and , you look down terribely on southern italy? Why all this obssesion with france, and all the contempt for southern italy? here is the core of your posts-------------> Laudabilis, your quotations of my various posts are good, but you basically DON'T answer to my observations 1) WHY, i'm not objective in your opinion ?? All my observations are honest. If you disagree, elaborate please. Point per pont. 2) From your humouristic reaction, i understand you consider frenchmen and italians very different in all sense and an hypotetical equiparation, hurts you VERY MUCH (am i wrong ? ) Well, mon ami, some news to you : FRANCE ISN'T GERMANIC. Sure, genetically germanic genes are predominant in the north, but genes are less important than the culture. And Franch civilization is a Gallic -Romance one. All know this. The language is the first sign : if you would write your answer in French language, i could understand almost all your post, although i've never studied your language...........why ?? ;D very simple. Because french language and italian language are very similar. Laudabilis..........are you objective yourself ? (just curiousity
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Post by atlantis on Dec 14, 2005 18:30:04 GMT -5
Greeks, Lebanese, Berbers, Iberians, Italians, ... it's all the same brown shit for a drunk "Aussie" . This is what the BBC meant to say in a more PC wording "Meditterranean"
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Post by tonynatuzzi on Dec 14, 2005 18:39:12 GMT -5
Atlantis since when were Italians brownskinned.Nobody in my family has brown skin and we're all Wops, unless you equate oliveskin with brown skin and to you its all the same shit.
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Post by atlantis on Dec 14, 2005 18:47:18 GMT -5
Atlantis since when were Italians brownskinned.Nobody in my family has brown skin and we're all Wops, unless you equate oliveskin with brown skin and to you its all the same shit. 1) I didn't ask wether you have brown family. 2) Learn to read: Greeks, Lebanese, Berbers, Iberians, Italians, ... it's all the same brown shit for a drunk "Aussie" . This is what the BBC meant to say in a more PC wording "Meditterranean"
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Post by byz on Dec 14, 2005 18:56:06 GMT -5
Greeks, Lebanese, Berbers, Iberians, Italians, ... it's all the same brown shit for a drunk "Aussie" . No, not really.
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Post by atlantis on Dec 14, 2005 19:03:39 GMT -5
Greeks, Lebanese, Berbers, Iberians, Italians, ... it's all the same brown shit for a drunk "Aussie" . No, not really. Ah, the BBC is lying and you are telling the truth Why oh why don't I just trust some god knows who poster on Dodona?
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Post by MR on Dec 14, 2005 19:07:42 GMT -5
Ah, the BBC is lying and you are telling the truth Why oh why don't I just trust some god knows who poster on Dodona? Byz is half-Greek so he's obviously biased. Wants to be considered 'white'.
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