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Post by syriano on Dec 13, 2005 11:31:39 GMT -5
you call rape, "sexual harassment? Wrong? in my country it's a called a "crime" and it's punished by 20 years of jail. We already know muslims respect women, and treat them with high esteem I'm afraid the newspapers, the media, Internet, are more reliable as source of information than a lies-machine. It gotta be a funny movie, that's for sure. laudabilis why do you have to take evey post I write in a smart ass manner? if it rape is the concern, then yes it's wrong and shouldn't be taken lightly at all. I was saying many Leb thugs might land alot of women because of their bad boy ways, not by force.. if the issue is indeed gang rapes and such then I appologies btw, even in that movie, the Leb thugs are Christians it's divx, not vcd, just watch on on pc, it's funny for a change
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Post by wadad on Dec 13, 2005 11:48:29 GMT -5
Because in Christianism Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, and even in the backward beliefs of african tribes, there are no verses or religious texts that order the believer to kill the "infidels". You just have to read the Quran, or even better, the hadiths, to realize it's the most violent religion in the mankind's history. I wont even bother with those backward african faiths. Instead of pin-poi nting whats preverse in your opinion about Islam, why not take a gander at your own Bible eh laudabilis? Lets take a look at Genesis 34: 34:24 And unto Hamor and unto Shechem his son hearkened all that went out of the gate of his city; and every male was circumcised, all that went out of the gate of his city. (34:24-29) "Every male was circumcised. And ... when they were sore ... the sons of Jacob ... slew all the males." The sons of Jacob trick Shechem into getting circumcised. Then they murder him, his sons, and all the males of the city, while taking their wives captive. 34:25 And it came to pass on the third day, when they were sore, that two of the sons of Jacob, Simeon and Levi, Dinah's brethren, took each man his sword, and came upon the city boldly, and slew all the males. 34:26 And they slew Hamor and Shechem his son with the edge of the sword, and took Dinah out of Shechem's house, and went out. Simeon and Levi slew Hamos and Shcekem Gerard Hoet, 1648-1733 34:27 The sons of Jacob came upon the slain, and spoiled the city, because they had defiled their sister. 34:28 They took their sheep, and their oxen, and their asses, and that which was in the city, and that which was in the field, 34:29 And all their wealth, and all their little ones, and their wives took they captive, and spoiled even all that was in the house. How about that? Now I am choosing to judge your religion based on these verses...It seems like Judeo-christianity espouses treachery, deceit, murder, vengeance, and cruelty
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Post by MC anunnaki on Dec 13, 2005 11:52:21 GMT -5
It's a good thing the Aussies kick those Lebanese cavemen's butts. If you can't behave in the country that gave you a home, then get the f*ck out. Again with the ME apes who give the rest of us a bad name. I assume you have a full forecast from Sweden? I have the internet and access to Australian newspapers so where in the world I am matters little. I know that the Leb gangs in Aussie are indeed big, but they mostly deal with drugs and cars. However, they are nothing compared to Russian, Viet or Chinese gangs Apparently, Russians, Viets and Chinese aren't interested in cruising for white chicks to gangrape. the Aussie guys are probably bitter because they are screwing Aussie women big time (and no not raping them) They're more likely to be fed up with Lebanese men behaving like chimps and packraping their women. I know Swedish men are. and if it makes any difference, most of the Leb gangsters are Christian Did I mention religion? It's a Middle Eastern mentality more than it's a religious problem. From France to Sweden to Australia, wherever you find lots of Middle Eastern men, you're bound to find an increase in gangrapes. In Sweden, the phenomenon was virtually unheard of before hordes of ME men started arriving.
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Post by wadad on Dec 13, 2005 11:59:38 GMT -5
anunnaki, any personal experiences with "Middle Eastern chauvinism?"
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Post by DeLacroix on Dec 13, 2005 12:30:03 GMT -5
Listen to me mate, you know very well I'm quite a tolerant person, so don't think I said that about Islam, just because I'm biased or for the sake of criticizing other peoples' faith. To be honest, I don't give a damn about what bible says, because though culturally christian, I'm not religious, and I have things far more important to worry about than religion. We all know that the Bible also contains its part of atrocities, we all know that during the dark ages, europeans killed a lot of people on behalf of Christianism, and the first who criticized the values and the teachings of the popes, were the christians themseleves, so that how we saw the birth of the epoch of lights (I'm not sure if it's correctly called so in english). The question is, do christians now, kill each other, and blow up themselves in crowded buses? Do christians in the 21th century, threaten those who criticize their beliefs and their values, and call for the holy war against the infidels? Do christians stone women, cut thiefs' hands, hang homosexuals, execute the apostates, treat women like animals, and mutilate their genitals, etc....................? Christianism and all other major religions, are reformed now, and compatible with a modern society, and no one is obliged to live under their rules. Christian countries, have seperated the religion from politics, and thanks to secularism, you're free to practice your beliefs in Canada, but it's not the case in most islamic countries, where religious minorities are harrassed, put to death (Pakistan for example), their churches burn, obliged to convert to Islam, etc..... Instead of being objective and honest, you paste some "intolerant" verses from the bible, just to prove us, that your book, is not the only religious book that contains intolerant verses. Man, you know very well, that we don't live anymore by the verses of the bible, unlike muslims. What it is written in the bible is something that belongs to the past, and as we say, living in the past, is dying in the present. I really thought you were smarter than that, but honestly, you've disappointed me. Instead of struggling everyday, to defend your (you muslims) faith, try to review the teachings of your religion, and to reform it, because, what it's said about Islam, has nothing to do with bias.All these people who complain about Islam's intolerance, cannot be all, wrong and biased. Look around you, and see what image your religion reflects to the world, then you'll realize, that something is wrong with you and your way of living your religion.
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Post by syriano on Dec 13, 2005 12:38:43 GMT -5
the problem is not what religion you are it's more of a pushing to relate events to religion are these also caused by the evil muslims? (now I admit that these #s might be greatly exaturated) In the United States, a rape is reported about once every five minutes. FBI Uniform Crime Report, 1997 * Rape is called "the most underreported violent crime in America." In a large national survey of American women, only 16% of the rapes (approximately one out of every six) had ever been reported to the police. Rape in America: A Report to the Nation, National Victim Center, 1992 * In a study conducted by the Department of Justice and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, researchers interviewed 8,000 women and 8,000 men. Using a definition of rape that includes forced vaginal, oral, and anal intercourse, the survey found that 1 in 6 women had experienced an attempted rape or a completed rape. At the time they were raped: 22% were under the age of twelve 54% were under the age of eighteen 83% were under the age of twenty-five Prevalence, Incidence, and Consequences of Violence Against Women, Department of Justice, 1998 * In the Rape in America study, 60% of the women who reported being raped were under 18 years old: 29.3% were less than 11 years old 32.3% were between 11 and 17 22.2% were between 18 and 24 7.1% were between 25 and 29 6.1% were older than 29 3.0% age was not available Rape in America: A Report to the Nation, National Victim Center, 1992 * Acquaintance rape is much more prevalent than stranger rape. In a study published by the Department of Justice, 82% of the victims were raped by someone they knew (acquaintance/friend, intimate, relative) and 18% were raped by a stranger. From a report on Violence Against Women based on data from the National Crime Victimization Survey, Bureau of Justice Statistics, 1995
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Post by wadad on Dec 13, 2005 12:41:00 GMT -5
the problem is not what religion you are it's more of a pushing to relate events to religion are these also caused by the evil muslims? (now I admit that these #s might be greatly exaturated) In the United States, a rape is reported about once every five minutes. FBI Uniform Crime Report, 1997 * Rape is called "the most underreported violent crime in America." In a large national survey of American women, only 16% of the rapes (approximately one out of every six) had ever been reported to the police. Rape in America: A Report to the Nation, National Victim Center, 1992 * In a study conducted by the Department of Justice and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, researchers interviewed 8,000 women and 8,000 men. Using a definition of rape that includes forced vaginal, oral, and anal intercourse, the survey found that 1 in 6 women had experienced an attempted rape or a completed rape. At the time they were raped: 22% were under the age of twelve 54% were under the age of eighteen 83% were under the age of twenty-five Prevalence, Incidence, and Consequences of Violence Against Women, Department of Justice, 1998 * In the Rape in America study, 60% of the women who reported being raped were under 18 years old: 29.3% were less than 11 years old 32.3% were between 11 and 17 22.2% were between 18 and 24 7.1% were between 25 and 29 6.1% were older than 29 3.0% age was not available Rape in America: A Report to the Nation, National Victim Center, 1992 * Acquaintance rape is much more prevalent than stranger rape. In a study published by the Department of Justice, 82% of the victims were raped by someone they knew (acquaintance/friend, intimate, relative) and 18% were raped by a stranger. From a report on Violence Against Women based on data from the National Crime Victimization Survey, Bureau of Justice Statistics, 1995 good stuff man
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Post by nordicyouth on Dec 13, 2005 12:56:31 GMT -5
Begging your pardons, but most of you are fools. Even in the 1970s, with Paris beginning to become home to a large Arab and North African population, attempted gang-rapes were commonplace. A friend of mine was swarmed by about 12 of them when she was living in the city, and her boyfriend and her screaming drove them off. And this was in the middle of the street.
Now I'm sure that the mass media does not report every White-on-White sexual asssault, and that these far outnumber Non-white-on-White attacks. However, I believe that Non-White males sexually assaulting White females has a higher RATIO than White-on-White and also White males assaulting non-White females. Thus, non-White men are MORE LIKELY to committ acts of sexual aggression/crime than White men.
Who seems to be more prone to this?
-Africans. -Middle Easterners. -East Indians/Pakistanis/Bangladeshis.
F.Y.I. New Zealand has just reported a case where 2 taxi drivers with Arab-sounding names raped a drunk New Zealand woman - probably White - instead of taking her to her destination.
I don't condone the violence in Australia, but I understand it's root. It is not evil or anti-social. It is natural frustration.
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Post by syriano on Dec 13, 2005 12:57:38 GMT -5
look am not trying to point fingers at anyone. there are indeed many crazy muslims and middle easterns, but the way we are being presented in the Media these days is not fair either.
if there are criminals simply arrest them I mean I really don't get it how rape gangs are allowed to wonder around the streets?
I live in the middle east and even thinknig about doing anything close to this to foreigners living here, would get you in endless trouble (not that people actuallly think of such thing)
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Post by DeLacroix on Dec 13, 2005 12:59:46 GMT -5
For thefirst time, I agree with you. In Australia, there are russians and Vietnamese bad boys, so Bad boys, that lebs, can't even go in their neighborhoods, but even though, these "Real" bad boys, don't go after White girls to rape them. It's just the lebanese gangsta-wannabes, who do that. I highly doubt it, as Christian Lebanese are known around the world, from United States to Subsaharian Africa, to be affluent and highly educated people. We also have a small christian lebanese community in France, and from what I've seen, they don't even consider themselves arabs, and live generally in french neighbohoods. And without going too far, even in Lebanon, muslims are poor, and christians, just the opposite. They're from the same race though. A friend of mine, who visited Beyrouth, told me that's it's the most segregated city he has ever seen in his whole life. You have the christian beyruth, rich, modern, clean, beautiful, full of Cafes, pubs, night clubs, hotels, tourists,...like if you were in a european city, and on the other hand, you have the muslim beyrouth, poor, dirty, dangerous, ugly, where no tourist dares to venture on visit it. So I don't say that because I want to defend christians or something of the sort, I just say the truth. The gangs in Australia are muslims, not christians, as the latters, assimilate well in the host societies.
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Post by wadad on Dec 13, 2005 13:06:56 GMT -5
Begging your pardons, but most of you are fools. Even in the 1970s, with Paris beginning to become home to a large Arab and North African population, attempted gang-rapes were commonplace. A friend of mine was swarmed by about 12 of them when she was living in the city, and her boyfriend and her screaming drove them off. And this was in the middle of the street. Now I'm sure that the mass media does not report every White-on-White sexual asssault, and that these far outnumber Non-white-on-White attacks. However, I believe that Non-White males sexually assaulting White females has a higher RATIO than White-on-White and also White males assaulting non-White females. Thus, non-White men are MORE LIKELY to committ acts of sexual aggression/crime than White men. Who seems to be more prone to this? -Africans. -Middle Easterners. -East Indians/Pakistanis/Bangladeshis. F.Y.I. New Zealand has just reported a case where 2 taxi drivers with Arab-sounding names raped a drunk New Zealand woman - probably White - instead of taking her to her destination. I don't condone the violence in Australia, but I understand it's root. It is not evil or anti-social. It is natural frustration. You go out of your way to "understand" Aussie mob violence, after all they're just sick and tired of their drunk women getting raped by Arab cab drivers.: Inversely us muslims have to go out of our way to explain to yall that gang rapes have nothing to do with our religion. What a f*cking shitty deal...Soon enough they're going to execute that Crip guy in LA. When the inevitable rioting from some Blacks occur, please Begbie, understand their frustration too.
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Post by syriano on Dec 13, 2005 13:07:24 GMT -5
For thefirst time, I agree with you. In Australia, there are russians and Vietnamese bad boys, so Bad boys, that lebs, can't even go in their neighborhoods, but even though, these "Real" bad boys, don't go after White girls to rape them. It's just the lebanese gangsta-wannabes, who do that. I highly doubt it, as Christian Lebanese are known around the world, from United States to Subsaharian Africa, to be affluent and highly educated people. We also have a small christian lebanese community in France, and from what I've seen, they don't even consider themselves arabs, and live generally in french neighbohoods. And without going too far, even in Lebanon, muslims are poor, and christians, just the opposite. They're from the same race though. A friend of mine, who visited Beyrouth, told me that's it's the most segregated city he has ever seen in his whole life. You have the christian beyruth, rich, modern, clean, beautiful, full of Cafes, pubs, night clubs, hotels, tourists,...like if you were in a european city, and on the other hand, you have the muslim beyrouth, poor, dirty, dangerous, ugly, where no tourist dares to venture on visit it. So I don't say that because I want to defend christians or something of the sort, I just say the truth. The gangs in Australia are muslims, not christians, as the latters, assimilate well in the host societies. Lebanese in general (muslim or christian) aren't trouble causers, or at least in regard to such things. Actually that's one of the reaons I find it weird. again why are gangsters allowed to wonder around without being arrested?
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Post by Melani2333 on Dec 13, 2005 13:30:19 GMT -5
WHY? Because those smary liberals don't allow guns/banned them. You won't have thugs/gangs of any ethnicity raping people in the USA emasse because once it was reported, everybody in that area would be packing guns for protection........BANG! BANG! In America, there are more rapes per capita because rape is also = drunken sex between 2 people who know each other aka "date rape". That's about 70% of all rape statistics right there......And I'm not talking forced coerhersion rape or stranger rapes, okay. Whenever those MEs attempt to do some of that stuff over here, they would be lynched 'good ole boy' style or turn up missing.... at least in the South. Americans are not weak willyed Euros any more, too many Hispanics and Blacks here for that! The Rednecks here would not put up with that mess at all!
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Post by Melani2333 on Dec 13, 2005 14:43:55 GMT -5
Hey, be nice. Don't hate on Burger because he is the 40 year old virgin........
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Post by nordicyouth on Dec 13, 2005 16:22:40 GMT -5
And here's the New Zealand article:
Taxi driver raped drunk passenger, court told 13.12.05
The second of two Wellington taxi drivers accused of raping a drunk woman passenger in separate incidents on the same night has been committed to stand trial.
Hisham Awad Riyad, 21, was ordered to stand trial for the rape of the-then 24-year-old woman in the early hours of May 1 following a depositions hearing at the Wellington District Court yesterday.
The first taxi driver - a 25-year-old whose name is suppressed - has pleaded not guilty to raping the woman and is scheduled to stand trial on April 3.
Police prosecutor Sergeant Colin McGillivray said the woman was already drunk on the night of April 30 when she came into Wellington City with her flatmates to attend several parties.
She continued drinking and, after being refused entry to a 21st function, got into Riyad's taxi at the central Dixon St taxi rank.
The woman asked to go to the Valve Bar in Vivian St to meet her friends but the Crown alleged that Riyad instead drove her to an area nearby where he raped her.
"The victim was saying no but because of the level of her intoxication, couldn't fend him off."
When spoken to by police, Riyad said he did not know the woman and denied picking her up in his taxi, Mr McGillivray said.
Environmental Science and Research forensic scientist Susan Vintiner said she had analysed samples and swabs taken from the woman and two motor vehicles.
A swab taken from the woman's left breast produced a DNA sample which could have related to Riyad, she told the court.
But under cross-examination by defence lawyer Simon Hewson, Dr Vintiner said the sample contained DNA from three people.
The majority of the DNA came from the woman and about one-quarter from two different men; the first taxi driver and a second man, of which the sample produced only a "partial DNA profile", she said.
Judge Tom Broadmore said he was satisfied there was enough evidence to commit Riyad to trial and remanded him on bail to the High Court for a callover on January 30.
- NZPA
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