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Post by anodyne on Nov 30, 2005 21:55:53 GMT -5
Nowadays, it's more of the contemporary black culture (read: ethnocentrism, gangsta rap, etc.) than Negroid appearance which turns people (white and non-white alike) off to "Afro-Americans." It seems to me in places like Britain people don't have these kinds of problems because the blacks there are better assimilated. They even speak in British accents. Now that doesn't mean I have a problem with recognizably black lifestyles. I only have a problem when said subculture is hostile, immoral, or disruptive to the rest of us. it doesn't matter how educated or polished blacks still get treated like dirt. We had a black family move in and 4 Sale signs popped up b/c the neighbors didn't want "their kind" moving in. The husband was an art dealer who had lived in Paris and Nice and the wife was from Montreal and was a professor. It didn't matter that they were clean and handsome and had nice kids in private school. They spoke better English and were probably the most educated people on the block-more than the racist old couple who scoffed at them daily before they moved across town. That occasionally happens. It depends on the community, I suppose.
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Post by aroundtheworld on Nov 30, 2005 21:57:25 GMT -5
I am in the south USA now and I find this to be false. White don't like ANY blacks-even Nuclear Physicists from MIT or Cambridge. They can be working on a cure for prostate cancer-the neighbors still dont' want them around or in their churches. The few educated blacks are stuck having to blend with whatever whites will tolerate them b/c they cannot go to the ghettos or urban areas with their social status and the danger it would present to them and their families. It's very strange here...not like Boston.
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Post by yigal on Nov 30, 2005 21:59:06 GMT -5
will I'd say most Arabs don't hate 'blacks' (for being black at least). if you look at it, the truest Arabs have mixed with 'blacks' alot. not to mention, there are Arabs who are black (in Arabia and in Africa) and in palestine too, and syria and jordan, mostly among bedouins but in palestine its common among ordinary city arabs
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Post by tonynatuzzi on Nov 30, 2005 22:03:39 GMT -5
Yigal is it common for NonBlack Colombians to bad mouth and use racial slurs against their Black Colombian countrymen.
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Post by anodyne on Nov 30, 2005 22:06:13 GMT -5
aroundtheworld, what ethnicity are you? you're one of the few regular Dodona posters whose ethnicity i'm not aware of. You can tell me to piss off if you don't want to answer the question
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Post by yigal on Nov 30, 2005 22:13:41 GMT -5
Yigal is it common for NonBlack Colombians to bad mouth and use racial slurs against their Black Colombian countrymen. yes, but i dont think its malicous racism as much as its ignorance, btw whats with all the colombian questions im only part, and am not very into the culture, but il relay a joke my uncle says que llamaís-vos a un blanco vestido de blanco? cardiologo que llamaís-vos a un prieto vestido de blanco? carnicero translated its What do u call a white man dressed in white? a cardiologist What do u call a negro dressed in white? a butcher
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Post by tonynatuzzi on Nov 30, 2005 22:55:10 GMT -5
I noticed that ethnic Whites in America are less likely to mix with Blacks than WASPS are,I remember in another race forum this Greek American chick said that if she ever brought home a Black man it would be her big fat Greek funeral,she said her parents just wouldn't have it.
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Post by syriano on Dec 1, 2005 0:30:03 GMT -5
will I'd say most Arabs don't hate 'blacks' (for being black at least). if you look at it, the truest Arabs have mixed with 'blacks' alot. not to mention, there are Arabs who are black (in Arabia and in Africa) and in palestine too, and syria and jordan, mostly among bedouins but in palestine its common among ordinary city arabs I have never seen a black Syrian before, can you post pictures of them? bedouins are never black (at least in Syria), they can be heavily tanned, but the features still look caucasion.
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Post by yigal on Dec 1, 2005 0:41:12 GMT -5
and in palestine too, and syria and jordan, mostly among bedouins but in palestine its common among ordinary city arabs I have never seen a black Syrian before, can you post pictures of them? bedouins are never black (at least in Syria), they can be heavily tanned, but the features still look caucasion. your bedouins and our bedouins are the same, of course most bedouins arent black, but they are a nomadic people and they pick up stuff on the way, so while they maybe the purest arabs culturally i think genetically they are a grab bag, ive seen black non bedouin syrians, not fully black of course but black by my standards nonetheless, off course most syrians look distincly Levantine/offwhite but u can spot a few that resemble egyptians which have a slight SSA vibe going on
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Post by syriano on Dec 1, 2005 1:05:59 GMT -5
that guy you posted doesn't look like Levantine bedouin at all. he's either from Southern Arabia or south Egypt.
btw, in Jordan and Lebanon there are alot of foreign Arabic workers like from south egypt (sayeedah) and others. not to be confused with the local people..
ps, I have nothing against those am talking about
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Post by huzar on Dec 1, 2005 10:41:56 GMT -5
Imo, it's unusefull continuing this thread.
We can discuss the thing under the most various and subtle perspectives, but ALL know the essential truth on "black exclusion" : subsaheran africans and their pure descendants all around the world, are simply seen instinctively as the most alien and repulsive component, phenotypically speaking, of the nation in which they live (either in anglosaxon america, either in Colombia, Mexico or Latin america) ; besides the strength of negroid genes makes very difficult to absorb them genetically, without modify the natural structure of the general population, and then the fundamental ethnic identity of the entire nation.
These are the two MAIN points. We can add that black africans and their descendants, differently from other non-white ethnic groups, to the eyes of white euros, are in a condition of total lack of "ethnic honour" ; African culture and civilisation suffer of an historical condition of inferiority. Inferior to the ancient civilisations like Egypt and Roman empire. Inferior to the Arabs , who invaded Africa in 600 a.d. and introduced a system of mass-slavery against the negroid populations. Inferior to european empires of imperialist (1500 - 1950 ) era, who conquested black Africa and deported millions of blacks in the new world in a condition of slavery.................. I've said enough. What kind of real ethnic honour could generate from a similar "history", seriously ??
Many could be proud to be partly spanish, and so being descendant of brave and noble conquistadores. Many could be proud to be partly Russian and then being descendant of people who built the greater empire of the world. Many would be proud to be partly french and so being a descendant of the great French-Romance continental civilisation, and Napoleonic enterprises.
ALMOST NOBODY would be proud to be the descendant of a negroid slave (neither partly). This the REAL and objective truth. Sorry, but usually i'm direct and violent, when i want to be completely honest.
PLUS, we can add that black pop. occupies the lowest rank in the hierarchy of every society, nation, of the world.
Isn't it enough ? TWO things are really important in our reality : Identity and Economy (Ethnicity/race and money/social class, in other words) ; Blacks are the supreme losers in both. It's not strange at all, nobody wants mix with them
WHO would desire unite himself and his life to their destiny ?
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Post by anodyne on Dec 1, 2005 10:59:55 GMT -5
Almost all ethnic groups have had people within their group sold into slavery at one time. The word slave comes from the ethnic term Slav. Before sub Saharan Africans it was Slavs who were sold in great numbers and continued to be until the Slavic people were able to form a better political/militant society.
Also, African's did have their own civilizations. They're not as impressive as that of others but considering the importance of geography for the necessary creation of a civilization and that sub Sahara Africa lacks the geographical advantages of other parts of the world (such as natural ports and navigable rivers) it's understandable.
Identity (ethnicity) always plays second fiddle or is non existent when money is involved. In the US it's almost always the financially unsuccessful who play up identity. Everyone else is too busy making money and associating with people, of whatever ethnicity, who can help them make more money.
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Post by Gamed on Dec 1, 2005 11:35:01 GMT -5
LOL, I can´t imagine such event in Arab country + the child doesn´t look black at all, certainly not by Middle Eastern standards, if he is black so I must be black like a shaytan ;D Hmmm ... maybe it has something to do with American mentality I presume BTW, there is a pick of black Palestinian from Gaza: www.falasteen.com/article.php3?id_article=1697
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Post by Gamed on Dec 1, 2005 11:46:39 GMT -5
that guy you posted doesn't look like Levantine bedouin at all. he's either from Southern Arabia or south Egypt. btw, in Jordan and Lebanon there are alot of foreign Arabic workers like from south egypt (sayeedah) and others. not to be confused with the local people.. ps, I have nothing against those am talking about Judging from the URL he is from Palestine.
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Post by syriano on Dec 1, 2005 12:09:30 GMT -5
gammed what I meant, he does not look like a native palestinian Bedoiun (not that it matters), but more of an old immigrantion result. notice how most are in Gaza where Egyptian influnce is stong btw, please don't take my explenation the wrong way. di massr um el donia after all . ahla nass el masarwa edit: here is a cool pic I came across while search for nagev
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