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Post by osservatore on Nov 27, 2005 5:50:08 GMT -5
Er... everything? If you are speaking about Judah Benjamin, he looks absolutely average to me! Thats just because of his clothes. Also, when I say "middle eastern" I mean the shas type of people, not the arabs. If Judah Benjamin was dressed in orthodox clothes you don't think he would fit in shas easily? He is of judeo-iberian origin just like a lot of north african jews is he not? He looks just as a lot of people I see every day, really. It's not just his clothes. I see italian jews, ashkenazi, sefardi and Bene Roma (the oldest european community, they' ve been here continuously since before the birth of Christ). If they don't tell you they are jews, you aren't going to guess. Of course I'd say many of them would look "natural" in jewish orthodox or midlle-eastern clothes, but that would work also applied to tons of gentiles italians as well! So, really, he looks european to me. European doesn't only mean Danish of Norwegian after all! Ciao!
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Post by zathuras on Nov 27, 2005 10:57:14 GMT -5
oh my bad. yeah i thought you meant european=northern european
yeah he wouldn't look out of place in southern europe whatsoever
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Post by ndrthl on Nov 27, 2005 13:52:00 GMT -5
lol according to 'mad' genius Bobby Fischer there are from 20 to 30 million Jews in the US. he said he knows it based on his 'studies'.
according to wiki the number of Jews in the US stands at almost 6 million.
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Post by tonynatuzzi on Nov 27, 2005 16:04:24 GMT -5
Maybe that 20 to 30 million figure includes the "Jews For Jesus" who abandoned Judism and people who are less than 1/4 Jewish like Yigal because I heard if your less than 1/4 Jewish your not eligible for Israeli citizenship so therefore if your not Jewish enough for Israel than your not counted as Jewish who knows.Even some White Nationalists do agree that the Jewish figure is that high in the U.S but usually these types are the ones who believe that even if your less than 1/4 Jewish your still Jewish in their eyes even if your only like 1/32 Jewish they still don't see you as a Gentile.
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Post by Springa on Nov 28, 2005 19:01:42 GMT -5
I wonder how many people are technically jewish without knowing it. I mean, technically, a jew is a person whose mother is jewish, right? So if 10 generations ago your mother's mother's mother's mother's... mother was jewish, then you're a jew.
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Post by CooCooCachoo on Nov 29, 2005 0:18:30 GMT -5
Jews did not proportionally do anything more than eat matza.
As people often involved in finance, you can bet that banks were involved in any and all activities of the day. ...Including slavery.
But there is a difference between funding capital, and the person who borrows it to do the deed. ...Admittedly there is some collaboration, as a financeer wants to know if his investment will be safe. ...But Jews were largely not the ones carrying slaves over on ships or working them on cotton plantations.
Ironically, I read how only something like 5% of Scotch-Irish owned slaves. Surprising when you consider the dixie flag is fashioned after the cross of St. Andrews. But alas, Scotch-Irish while plentiful in the South, were not the predominant slave owning class.
...So who was?
Pretty much the Southernors who fled to Texas after the civil war. ...The same people advocating use of illegal immigrant labor without requiring any cultural integration.
Louis Farrakhan bashes Jews because he's in bed with Islam. And if you can't realize that Islam has a problem with Israel, I don't know what to tell you.
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Post by Anja on Nov 29, 2005 17:22:40 GMT -5
There were old, established Jewish communities in Charleston, South Carolina and Savannah, Georgia from way back in colonial times. It wouldn't be a stretch to imagine the wealthier ones owned slaves. There were also relatively large Jewish settlements in Texas by the time of the Civil War. Absolutely. There were some in Tennessee also...I read Black Boy last year and there was mention of Jews in Memphis. Of course that's nothing strange, seems they populated to some extent many Southern cities. As to the number that actually owned slaves...good question.
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Post by tonynatuzzi on Nov 29, 2005 21:46:18 GMT -5
What would be funny as hell is seeing a Rabbi in Memphis for example speaking with a southern accent could you imagine that would get a few laughs.
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Post by Yankel on Dec 1, 2005 2:52:34 GMT -5
Dude, that's not unheard of here in the Midwest.
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