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Post by pacificrim on Nov 13, 2005 15:38:44 GMT -5
So, the first ancestors of east asians are really whites (look like caucasoids)? Did caucasoids come before mongoloids or it is the other way around? No, there were no "Whites" or "Mongoloids" 50,000 years ago. Then the people who lived around 50,000, did they look more like modern day whites or modern asians?
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Post by gelaye on Nov 25, 2005 8:20:05 GMT -5
I came to the conclusion that the only reason the europid may have wide spread attractiveness is that humans always look to mate with the 'best genes' right? so, if every race is taught from birth that europids have achieved this, invented this, used to keep this other race as slaves, are more 'intelligent', live in MEDCs, then maybe that is what makes them subconciously more sexually preferable? What do you think about that idea?
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Post by ndrthl on Nov 25, 2005 8:32:42 GMT -5
I came to the conclusion that the only reason the europid may have wide spread attractiveness is that humans always look to mate with the 'best genes' right? so, if every race is taught from birth that europids have achieved this, invented this, used to keep this other race as slaves, are more 'intelligent', live in MEDCs, then maybe that is what makes them subconciously more sexually preferable? What do you think about that idea? i think it is reasonable. beauty standards are not exclusively related to 'pure' aesthetic criteria, imo. power, social adequacy, supposed 'intellectuality', are important too, among many other things.
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Post by tonynatuzzi on Nov 26, 2005 1:15:25 GMT -5
What about many of those Aboriginal men in Australia who can grow a beard as big as any White man is it because they have Caucasian genes in their family tree.
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Post by asdf on Nov 26, 2005 1:22:40 GMT -5
Australids are hirsute in their own right.
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Post by osirica on Nov 26, 2005 19:59:25 GMT -5
IT seems to me that the opposite is true. White women are sexually attracted to Black men at a much higher rate than black women are attracted to white men. As for asians, 99% of them never have seen a Black man outside of the stereotypes on TV, and in addition Asians are given a marketing of the white male, which sells on TV as the "best choice". There is nothing inherent about that.
WHat happens is socially speaking, taboos are placed on our society. If you were to adjust for those, then i believe that the Black groups would be the most attractive. These artifical/social variables play a greater role in how whites, asians, and other lighter complexioned people respond to interracial dating:
1. If the family didn't disown the girl. 2. If the neighborhood and friends didn't redicule her. 3. If the white male did not humiliate her. 4. If she did not have to experience prejudice and her children racism.
These issues are carryovers from the colonization period, not from any ancient biological traits. It's artificial to believe that marrying lighter through the skin color scale will somehow inherently give your children better traits.
Racism is like peer pressure. If everyone thinks everyone is doing it, then everyone will pretend that it's how things should be done. Most white people are raised to think that Black men are a bad choice for whatever reason. This is unrelated to the social quagmire in America that hip-hop culture has it's roots in.
I do not believe for a moment that the European male is inherently more attractive to other races than the other way around. MARKETING the European male on TV has had a much more artifical impact on the impressions left on the Asian and other races, but most of those affected have never even SEEN a Black man before anyway!
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Post by fred on Nov 30, 2005 8:55:27 GMT -5
The most attractive race on earth for women from my observation is the atlantid-mediteranean type. The "tall, dark" European (and not african male, lol).
Southern europeans are a very beautiful race.
Now, this is true from my observation: If you are ugly, better be black than white if you want to attract women, for reasons I don't know, though.
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Post by quartermetis on Nov 30, 2005 10:55:50 GMT -5
Thanks Mike for the pic of Douglass without the beard.. he certainly has non- negroid features.. except for the nose, perhaps My friend said he looks russian with a beard. I wonder if he was actually quadroon. His wife was white and so are his children and descendants. He was very well-respected and eventually gave up on most of the blacks he tried to help. Actually his SECOND wife was white and they didn't have any children, his first wife was clearly Black as were his children and their descendants are very active in the "elite" African- American community. here is his great grandson and daughter, she's also the great granddaughter of Booker T Washington another "black" (mulatto) historical figure. They are definitely of African descent.
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Post by Mike the Jedi on Nov 30, 2005 20:30:44 GMT -5
The most attractive race on earth for women from my observation is the atlantid-mediteranean type. The "tall, dark" European (and not african male, lol). Southern europeans are a very beautiful race. Now, this is true from my observation: If you are ugly, better be black than white if you want to attract women, for reasons I don't know, though. This has always been my opinion, as well. After all, there's a reason the expression "tall, dark, and handsome" exists.
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Post by tonynatuzzi on Nov 30, 2005 21:50:14 GMT -5
When a WASP woman mentions tall,dark,and handsome most of the time I wonder if she's talking more about "Black Irish" type men or if she's talking more about Mediterranean men or both.
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Post by Mike the Jedi on Nov 30, 2005 22:26:03 GMT -5
I've always assumed it was both.
But I've never heard it applied to any extra-Caucasoid race.
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Post by tonynatuzzi on Nov 30, 2005 22:32:25 GMT -5
Yeah I kind of figured that when they mention tall,dark,and handsome that a man from Yemen or Kuwait for example is not what first pops into their mind atleast not for most of them.
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Post by Mike the Jedi on Nov 30, 2005 22:35:31 GMT -5
Yeah, I would even go so far as to apply it only to indigenous European races, but I have heard it applied to Oded Fehr (Ashkenazi) before so I thought better of it.
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Post by tonynatuzzi on Nov 30, 2005 23:26:20 GMT -5
Abdul and you would be categorized as short,dark and ugly. ;D
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Post by asdf on Nov 30, 2005 23:37:19 GMT -5
I don't understand why Abdul thinks he's East Med. The only gracile he has is Arabian. And he's not Pontid... nor short.
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