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Post by Educate Me on Sept 9, 2005 17:32:42 GMT -5
yep, but according to this right wing american blog writers, mexicans have a blonde fetish the size of the giza piramid, and all their soap opera stars look like norwegians. this is typical mexican star or think of salma hayek
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Post by Mike the Jedi on Sept 9, 2005 17:36:29 GMT -5
I don't think they look northern European at all, but I disagree with you on the count that they're all just Euro-Mestizos. I think the majority of the people on Spanish TV (at least here in the States) are in fact white Spanish-descended people. Or at least mestizos who could pass as white.
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Post by Educate Me on Sept 9, 2005 17:38:39 GMT -5
by spanish you mean mexican right?
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Post by Mike the Jedi on Sept 9, 2005 17:39:35 GMT -5
Yeah, Spanish-speaking TV from the Western Hemisphere, not Spain itself! lol
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Post by Melnorme on Sept 9, 2005 17:53:18 GMT -5
yep, but according to this right wing american blog writers, You're talking about Steve Sailer. I don't think there is anybody else. Yeah, he exaggerates. I guess it's usual for 'the people on TV' to look different than 'the people on the street', but what makes Mexico unique is that the differences between the two are due to racial differences, which stem from ethnic differences... Maybe it's inevitable for this to happen in a racially mixed country.
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Post by Educate Me on Sept 9, 2005 17:57:09 GMT -5
Could you link me to him? It may be him, but there are at least 2 more guys I read who were anti immigration americans.
Is he the one who wrote an article on how the mexican elite ended up so white looking? and compared mexico to chinese imperial meritocracy?
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Post by Melnorme on Sept 9, 2005 18:01:54 GMT -5
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Post by eufrenio on Sept 9, 2005 18:43:42 GMT -5
About the "Caucasoidness" of anime characters and "progressive Asian"... An interesting question that I think most Whites never think about is just what is "Caucasian features"? If you take a bunch of people that are considered "White" or "Caucasoid", you'll find that a wide range of variation is allowed for. He/she is allowed to be human. He/she can have button noses, hooked noses, big ones, thin ones, long ones and stout ones. The problem is "Caucasoid" copyrights so much of the human variation/set of features, variation that other populations also have, that he starts seeing himself in everyone. He just reduced everyone into caricatures when he himself can be reduced into caricatures. The problem is that that is his own perspective and not everyone see things they way he sees it. They looking nothing like "Caucasoids" if "Caucasoids" is allowed to be narrowly defined. It's one of those "What the f*ck???" moments when dealing with Whitey. What are the "What the f*ck?" moments? This pic below was the first picture of Chinese I get when I type "Chinese" on Yahoo! images. Agrippa made the comments that some of them have proto-Europid in them. www.ezwebclub.com/cagw/photos/CAGW%202003-01%20Chinese%20New%20Year%203rd%20Board.jpgAll of sudden, features that are very common (narrow, long noses), some even defining for Asians (broad faces, strong gonials) owes a "Europid" rental fees for "using his phenotype". That's a "What the f*ck?" momment. "Muthaf*cka came outta nowhere clownin" as the brothas say. Are you saying only whites have stereotypes concerning other races? That´s a pretty universal feature!
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Post by Mike the Jedi on Sept 9, 2005 18:58:33 GMT -5
He's saying that it's hypocritical for people to allow unlimited variation in Caucasoids while defining other races on the basis of their most extreme features.
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Post by eufrenio on Sept 9, 2005 19:33:48 GMT -5
He's saying that it's hypocritical for people to allow unlimited variation in Caucasoids while defining other races on the basis of their most extreme features. On the other hand, human2 doesn´t like it either when we look at the finer details of sub-races. Remember those threads about Mongoloids? He wasn´t too fond of sub-races and the actual study of variation in the Mongoloid race. Human2 seems to favour the idea of continua: the Eurasian continuum, the African continuum, etc. Unbroken regional units.
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Post by Crimson Guard on Sept 9, 2005 20:23:50 GMT -5
he suffers from the same mentality as Charlie Bass,neither likes the idea of Caucasoids outside of Europe,but its OK the other way around...though bass was clear case of delusional extremism!
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Post by Mike the Jedi on Sept 9, 2005 20:43:59 GMT -5
Yeah, Eufrenio, I started that whole Mongoloid thread in question, actually. Human2 just doesn't like it when people invent a bazillion subraces to categorize variation. Even though, in the end, I think it's the names that bother him the most. In parentheses are names I think he would take to better. Mongoloid (East Eurasian and American) Eskimoid (Eskimo) Siberid (Siberian) East Siberid (Chukotka-Kamchatkan) West Siberid (Uralic) Tungid (Altaic) Amur-Sakhalinid (Gilyak-like) Taigid (Tungusian) Kumid (Central Asian) Sinid (Far Eastern) Pacifid (Australo-Melanesian-influenced Pacific Amerind) Silvid (hawk-nosed woodland American Indian) Margid (Southwestern American Indian) Centralid (Central American Indian) Brasilid (Amazonian Indian) Andid (Andean Indian) Pampid (Patagonian Indian) Lagid (Fuegian-like) I think it's the -ids and -oids that drive him crazy more than the actual descriptions. he suffers from the same mentality as Charlie Bass,neither likes the idea of Caucasoids outside of Europe,but its OK the other way around...though bass was clear case of delusional extremism! lol... Crimson, you have a real penchant for exaggeration. Not everybody who disagrees with you is a delusional extremist, man. They just happen to have opinions you find undesirable in your Romano-centric world.
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Post by Crimson Guard on Sept 9, 2005 20:57:36 GMT -5
Mike I wasnt saying anything to slur the guy...but he clearly does have problematic issues ,which even other posters like Dienekes, Agrippa and Eufrenio ect have also noticed...again I not saying this to gang up on him or anything as such,but its not just me noticing it.
hey,I know I'am no angel in the outfield..but the difference isI speak straight and truthful...I 'am not hindered by preconceived ideas and ulterior motives .
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Post by eufrenio on Sept 10, 2005 7:56:20 GMT -5
Yeah, Eufrenio, I started that whole Mongoloid thread in question, actually. Yes, I remember now! That´s pure nominalism! What´s wrong with naming entities that are statistically or heuristically significant? I´m sure you´re on my side on this one, Mike! He can´t complain we don´t go into details when it comes to Asians! ( we can still break down the Asian mongoloids easily into more types, just as you do with Sinids) They remind him of Agrippa, that´s why! ;D
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Post by eufrenio on Sept 10, 2005 10:53:26 GMT -5
On the other hand, human2 doesn't like it either when we look at the finer details of sub-races. Because it's retarded. This forum is a cult of people who worship outdated anthropology books. Well you´re part of this cult, since you´re a distinguished member of Dodona! ;D You´ve got a good eye, slanty or otherwise, for detail! If you´re just complaining about the lack of accuracy of descritions of Mongoloids, I agree with you. But why not contribute to this effort instead of discarding altogether the very idea of Mongoloid sub-races? You could come up with better definitions and descriptions of asian variation. Don´t just discredit the taxononomies in use. I argue that there´s room for both discrete sub-racial categories and the study of continua.
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