Nist
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Post by Nist on Jul 22, 2005 0:12:37 GMT -5
I don't know about the first link. It claims that Catholics score 15 points lower than Protestants in Northern Ireland. It also claims that they're members of the same ethnic group. That's not *totally* true as Catholics have more Irish (Celtic) ancestry while Protesants have more Lowland Scottish (part Germanic) ancestry. Any differnces (genetically) between these two?
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Post by captainusa1 on Jul 23, 2005 1:26:09 GMT -5
^^ There are genetic differences. Of course, they're not as stark when there are mixed marriages.
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Post by Melnorme on Jul 23, 2005 6:27:59 GMT -5
The most bottom will be Mexicans and Central Americans, without proper work permits. They seem to have the additional disadvantage of having commercially non-'marketable', non-charismatic personalities, which could certainly help in certain venues. It seems that most all American "Latino" superstars are Cuban or Caribbean descended ( anybody care to correct me? ).
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Post by eufrenio on Jul 23, 2005 7:37:59 GMT -5
Let's talk policy : if racial differences in IQ are conclusively proven and become a publically acknowledged fact, what would/should the effect be on domestic policies of Western nations? Let´s keep the state away from further social engineering, shall we? Wherever affirmative action and similar programs are in place, "not doing anything" would amount to mantaining the status quo. That would hardly be neutral. Why not scrap affirmative action altogether, including preferences for women? Discrimination is discrimination, and two wrongs don´t make one right. Once they reach 25 % of the population, you can be sure they´ll find a market in the show business. Unfortunately, that venue would only provide jobs for, say, .01 % of said population.
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Post by Melnorme on Jul 23, 2005 7:46:51 GMT -5
Why not scrap affirmative action altogether, including preferences for women? Discrimination is discrimination, and two wrongs don´t make one right. Well, obviously. But remember, "the art of the possible", etc, etc.
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Post by eufrenio on Jul 23, 2005 7:56:55 GMT -5
Why not scrap affirmative action altogether, including preferences for women? Discrimination is discrimination, and two wrongs don´t make one right. Well, obviously. But remember, "the art of the possible", etc, etc. Well, of course, it all depends on the country we´re talking about. Countries "stuck" with large native or naturalized (supposedly) low IQ populations are hopeless, no matter what they do. Others would be well advised to limit the incoming flow of said populations, not excluding repatriation of non-citizens. That is, if Murray, Rushton and others are correct! (Mel, do you believe that Razib and Godless from GNXP.com visit this forum?)
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Post by Melnorme on Jul 23, 2005 8:02:53 GMT -5
(Mel, do you believe that Razib and Godless from GNXP.com visit this forum?) I doubt it ( and that might be a good thing too ). Razib always complains about not having enough time to read other blogs. 'Following' a forum would be even more time-consuming. And GC doesn't even follow his own blog.
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Post by eufrenio on Jul 23, 2005 8:06:45 GMT -5
(Mel, do you believe that Razib and Godless from GNXP.com visit this forum?) I doubt it ( and that might be a good thing too ). Razib always complains about not having enough time to read other blogs. 'Following' a forum would be even more time-consuming. And GC doesn't even follow his own blog. GC has given up blogging, I understand....
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Post by Springa on Jul 23, 2005 10:11:28 GMT -5
In my area, black people seem to be usually better off than mullatoes/tri-racials because most blacks seem to be from an older stock here while mullatoes are mostly migrants from miserable drought devastaded areas in the northeast. But it's just my impression, I don't have any sources on that one. I'd say (out of my butt of course) that black families from Sao Paulo are, on average, better off than more euro looking northeastern migrants. Why dont they make this study in a mixed society brazil? There the wealthy people are almost always white, I know Droop, but there is also plenty of poor white people who live in the same conditions of the black people. I think it would be a better comparison.
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Post by Tautamus on Jul 23, 2005 10:27:20 GMT -5
The most bottom will be Mexicans and Central Americans, without proper work permits. They seem to have the additional disadvantage of having commercially non-'marketable', non-charismatic personalities, which could certainly help in certain venues. It seems that most all American "Latino" superstars are Cuban or Caribbean descended ( anybody care to correct me? ). los lonely boys seems to be pretty popular.another American "superstar" and definitely an American legend was is Richie Valens. mexican americans i'd say dominate comedy/sitcoms. while afro hispanics dominate sports (baseball)
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Post by asdf on Jul 23, 2005 18:38:30 GMT -5
They're practially already at 25% if you count the 7% of the untmentioned population (illegals)
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Post by Dodona Underground on Jul 29, 2005 14:26:11 GMT -5
Good thread. I've always been beaten in arguments in which I've (always) argued against the low black IQ position. I was beaten because, as Faelcind might say, all the best psychometric data was against me. But the whole argument is deceptive. We talk of the great genetic diversity of sub-Saharan Africa. Then we turn around and ask what the story is with BLACKS. Which blacks? Maybe most negroids are close to the Ashkenazis but a large minority (Hausas, for example ) are semi-retarded. Well, including them is going to skew the average. Isn't it?
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Post by phrost on Aug 6, 2005 19:55:53 GMT -5
There has been alot of debate on how IQ tests are constructed and the types of questions asked (or were ommited).
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Post by phrost on Aug 6, 2005 20:07:01 GMT -5
There is archeological evidence of advance civilizations in both the Northern and Southern areas of Africa. I would hardly believe they are incapible of being intelligent. Civilizations has both prosper and decline in history. Look at the past achievement of the Kyhmer empire in Cambodia and compare that to the present conditions of Cambodia.
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