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Post by iberomaurusian on Jun 13, 2005 17:47:18 GMT -5
Make a choice and tell your reasons!.
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Post by Crimson Guard on Jun 13, 2005 18:07:42 GMT -5
See you like that quote berter,but its "CrimsonGuard"...
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Post by joton on Jun 13, 2005 18:09:25 GMT -5
i dunno. i cannot place a generalization on people. there is many factor to poeples perception of others.
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Post by iberomaurusian on Jun 13, 2005 18:13:26 GMT -5
See you like that quote berter,but its "CrimsonGuard"... ooops, I omited the letter r...sorry!
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Post by Circe on Jun 13, 2005 18:14:39 GMT -5
You should have given more options I think that race consciousness doesn't depend on the race one belongs to, but on the mental frame of the person in question.
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Post by iberomaurusian on Jun 13, 2005 18:20:27 GMT -5
You should have given more options What other races should I include in the list, Circe!? Sure it does, circe!. But you cant deny that there are races that are more vulnerable to race mixing than others.
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Post by Circe on Jun 13, 2005 19:40:23 GMT -5
What other races should I inlude in the list, Circe!? I said more options not more races "There is no difference between the races when it comes to this", or "It's individual, not race related" could be some of the options... What exactly do you mean by more vulnerable? More prone to mixing, or what?
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Post by trustme on Jun 13, 2005 21:05:24 GMT -5
Definetly caucasoid!!
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Post by ranmin on Jun 13, 2005 21:15:38 GMT -5
This is a social rather than a biological issue. In America, racial conciousness is viewed rather in a negative connotation due to the "melting pot" phenomenon. Thus, nobody in America really posesses an ethnic conciousness, but rather a constructed political one.
In cases where a racial ethnicity naturally have a sort of conciousness, but it's rather one of being "white", rather than being "Nordish", "Slavic", "Mediterranean", etc, or "Asian", as oppose to "Sinid", "Qiangic", "Arctic", etc.
As per my observations as a foriegner, the Negroes in America tend to be very elitist and exclusive.
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Post by mmmkay on Jun 13, 2005 21:36:53 GMT -5
LOL you still use that word? God I hope your not around alot of black people.
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Post by human2 on Jun 13, 2005 21:59:53 GMT -5
This is a social rather than a biological issue. In America, racial conciousness is viewed rather in a negative connotation due to the "melting pot" phenomenon. Thus, nobody in America really posesses an ethnic conciousness, but rather a constructed political one. In cases where a racial ethnicity naturally have a sort of conciousness, but it's rather one of being "white", rather than being "Nordish", "Slavic", "Mediterranean", etc, or "Asian", as oppose to "Sinid", "Qiangic", "Arctic", etc. As per my observations as a foriegner, the Negroes in America tend to be very elitist and exclusive. Oh man... from CNA. And just when I was tricking them into believing that we didn't have StormFront-like people.
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Post by ranmin on Jun 13, 2005 22:02:56 GMT -5
This is a social rather than a biological issue. In America, racial conciousness is viewed rather in a negative connotation due to the "melting pot" phenomenon. Thus, nobody in America really posesses an ethnic conciousness, but rather a constructed political one. In cases where a racial ethnicity naturally have a sort of conciousness, but it's rather one of being "white", rather than being "Nordish", "Slavic", "Mediterranean", etc, or "Asian", as oppose to "Sinid", "Qiangic", "Arctic", etc. As per my observations as a foriegner, the Negroes in America tend to be very elitist and exclusive. Oh man... from CNA. And just when I was tricking them into believing that we didn't have StormFront-like people. ??
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Post by nockwasright on Jun 14, 2005 4:18:19 GMT -5
It depends on how you do the counting. Most of the people belonging to the SSA and Mongoloid so called races are presently in a condition of such general ignorance (if compared to Western world), that it's hard to imagine they are conscious of or interested in things so far from their everyday lifes than other races. What would a Malawi peasant care or know about Caucasoids and Negroids if his world is his village? So if it's head counting its Negroids - Mongoloids - Caucasoids.
If you instead consider only the persons who are in such a position to be aware and interested to the "problem" (as elites in the non Western World, or immigrants living in Western World, or Japanese), then the Caucasoids (better: Europeans, as Caucasoid would involve quite a lot of unwestern and underdeveloped nations)) are the less conscious for the simple reason they live in their own cultural environment, which they are used to consider of universal value. When European novelists write a book they speak about man, not Caucasoid man. When Martian land in hollywood films they land in New York, never in Tokyo. Hegel, who is still one of the most studied philosopher in the whole world, took care to explain how the Absolute (the Spirit or whatever you call it) become matter by incarnating itself in human history. Russel mocked such view noticing that Hegel Spirit never substantiated into China, because Hegel didn't know squat of China history. And it was the "Absolute"! And the fellow is still studied! For the Western man, Western man is Man. He is on the pedestal, so can not see the others. The others can see him and have all sort of complexes of love/hate of which Japan is the most egregious example. Being the most developed and smart non western country arguably Japan is the most race conscious.
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Post by amksa on Jun 14, 2005 4:48:08 GMT -5
the indestructible Klingons.
I think that you shouldn't make broad racial group category for your question, when i learnt to elaborate questionnaire, i understood to never ask a question that i can't control or contain in relevant answers. nationality or sub-race would be comic though, but more appropriate : here the choice is limited and not very useful. i voted mongoloid, but how many countries, people fall into this category, Igu ? when i voted mongoloid i meant Tibetan or something like Polynesians. But it's stupid because mongoloid includes "japanese" as well, and we all know how "conscious race" are japanese.
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Post by iberomaurusian on Jun 15, 2005 14:28:48 GMT -5
@amksa, Ne m'apprends pas comment poser une question; La règle des n-Q ne s'applique qu'en France, ...oublie la! ;D
@circe, your remark was obvious ... Think to these relations: Race <---> Culture <---> Behavior of individuals (social like misgenation, or else) <---> Collective behavior. And yes, we can speak of macro-cultures (caucasoid culture, mongol culture, ...). I know those are rather un-precise concepts, but just think about them ...
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