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Post by mike2 on May 1, 2005 22:28:07 GMT -5
Of course but most NA's are not Berbers. You mean most are Arabs?
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Post by topdog on May 2, 2005 1:48:14 GMT -5
I recognised you from one tactic, common to you and Darkstarr: You both ignore the photos I post. How do you explain we have such people among us!? No, I haven't ignored all your posts and quit calling me Darkstarr. The reason I ignore some of them is because I've grown tired of your tactic of posting the most light European looking Berbers as 'real Berbers' while calling any dark Berbers or any Berbers who show the slightest sliver of black ancestry 'fake Berbers'. That gets tiring after awhile which is why I ignore it. Now as I've said, I base my conclusion from what I read in published anthropological and osteological data; continually posting pictures the most light European looking Berbers in a subjective manner doesn't prove anything.
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Post by vojta on May 2, 2005 3:15:56 GMT -5
I personally think the diversity of the human races is the most fascinating reality in nature. I think to it every day and through it I changed my ancient -religious- view of the world. No one could bear the responsability of the differencies observed among men, no one!. You can always wait your savior Jesus, ...to whom people are equal. What you say isn't of any ingenuity Berty. I am N German; Your History is......?
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Post by Criollo on May 2, 2005 16:38:11 GMT -5
Are these people Berber as well? Theses? This is a honest question or of these of the Arab variety?
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Post by Berter on May 3, 2005 14:41:09 GMT -5
Of course but most NA's are not Berbers. Most NAs are berbers... their basic stock/component is berber.
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Post by Igu on May 3, 2005 14:41:36 GMT -5
Are these people Berber as well?Theses? This is a honest question or of these of the Arab variety? They could be Berbers, But I don't think so, they are more likely to be arabs from the interior.
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Post by Berter on May 3, 2005 14:42:35 GMT -5
Most NAs are arabo-berbers.
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Post by Berter on May 3, 2005 15:20:32 GMT -5
I am N German; Your History is......? There is a blatant inequality between the human races that can be seen through: (1) Their different phenotypes (pleasant vs repugnant phenotypes), (2) Their varying levels of 'material' acheivements (their 'material' history, which sums up many other differencies like those in the intellectual and physical abilities, etc.). Only a foolish would deny the fact that European peoples score high than other human groups when compared on the basis of criteria (1) & (2). Berbers score extremely lower than Europeans but higher than Negroes. What you say isn't of any ingenuity Berty. My statement must be really genious for the crowd who fail seeing the evident inequality of the human races.
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Post by Berter on May 3, 2005 15:34:45 GMT -5
Criollo: Those are regular NAS---arabo-berbers, but I see some berber faces there. Btw, you can continue posting pics of miserable NAs, it doesnt ashame me a second. This place is about race. I myself post pics of extremely poor berber countrymen.
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Post by Faelcind on May 4, 2005 1:32:04 GMT -5
Berter there is no solid evidence that indicates that material cultural achievements have anything to do with inate racial differences while they entire archeological community is convinced of the power of ecology as a determinant of material cultural acheivement. I am getting really tired of seeing that argument I have specifically brought your attention to ecological materialism, if you don't have decent argument for your position stop stating it like fact.
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Post by Berter on May 4, 2005 13:18:22 GMT -5
Berter there is no solid evidence that indicates that material cultural achievements have anything to do with inate racial differences while they entire archeological community is convinced of the power of ecology as a determinant of material cultural acheivement. I am getting really tired of seeing that argument I have specifically brought your attention to ecological materialism, if you don't have decent argument for your position stop stating it like fact. Yes, Faelcind, I already know your thoughts on that question. I just wrote above what I have promised you to post, if you still remember!?. I didnt want to post it at the time because I knew it would 'hurt' you. Its only stating the obvious to say that the meterial acheivements (MAs) of a given people (P) depend mainly on the following two variables: (1) Their biological/genetical identity, or simply their ...race (R); (2) Thier material surrounding or ...environment (E). Using mathematical formalism, MAs (P)=f(R,E) Our positions are : - I believe the function f is highly R-dependant,
- You believe it is highly E-dependant.
We are not supposed to agree on everything.
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Post by Faelcind on May 4, 2005 14:30:00 GMT -5
Thats a reasonable analysis the only problem is you have never presented any evidence to indicate that your belief has any scientific validity and yet you still insist only the foolish could dissagree with it.
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Post by Criollo on May 4, 2005 17:02:33 GMT -5
Thats a reasonable analysis the only problem is you have never presented any evidence to indicate that your belief has any scientific validity and yet you still insist only the foolish could dissagree with it. Differences between races definetly exist to deny this is to deny reality. They are only inferior or superior depending on what you believe to be inferior or superior.
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Post by Faelcind on May 5, 2005 0:08:38 GMT -5
Differences between races exist of that I have no doubt. Those differences are doubtless like those of most subspecies in higher mammals little more then morphometry with little behavioral impact. There is no credible evidence that races differ in mental make up or that material culture diffferences are in any rooted in biology.
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Post by Newman on May 5, 2005 0:16:54 GMT -5
Differences between races exist of that I have no doubt. Those differences are doubtless like those of most subspecies in higher mammals little more then morphometry with little behavioral impact. There is no credible evidence that races differ in mental make up or that material culture diffferences are in any rooted in biology. Yeah I'll agree with that. Differences between so-called "races" are merely cosmetic and nothing more.
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