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Post by mike2 on Jun 9, 2005 22:59:47 GMT -5
I've talked about this in another thread. In my opinion, all Caucasoids are white unless they look like they are obviously mixed with another race, such as is the case with most East Indians having Veddoid features and most Central Asians having Tungid features. Same with Lapps and Uralics. It all depends. Like in this case of the Arabids. Sheikh Jaber: white. As good a Caucasoid an Arabian as any. Osama bin Laden: not white. There is definitely something Veddoid or Aethiopid in him. And with East Indians: Aishwarya Rai: white. Sunny Leone: white. Abdul Kalam: not white. Veddoid traits are obvious.
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Post by Curious6 on Jun 10, 2005 3:18:16 GMT -5
Interesting, the rejection of the label 'white' in the US has lead to the origination of a sociological concept that has now extended to a substantial portion of today's youth, especially in W. Europe and S.E. Asia. This concept is the ultimate form of claiming another's identity. This concept is none other than 'the wigger' (or the ' wigga' for all you wiggers out there). I suggest the site www.wiggaz.com so you can check out their features and conclude whether they are Caucasoid or Negroid. (By the way, it studies the cultural phenomena of wiggaz in quite some detail.)
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Post by MC anunnaki on Jun 10, 2005 4:31:01 GMT -5
I seem to be among the few who has yet to figure out what's so damn good about being white anyway. What's the point of striving to be classified as "white"? To be accepted by insignificant people on insignificant WN boards?
I don't know what I would be classified as, white or non-white, but I don't call myself "white" (hey, I guess it depends on who's standing next to me! ;D). If someone wants to label me in some way, label me as an Irano-Afghan of the Caucasian race. But white? White to me are NW Euros. Not as much a racial term as a cultural one that grew out of the colonization era when NW Euros used colours to separate themselves from those they colonized.
I have no need to be white. I've managed quite well in my life without that label and I doubt receiving it would make a difference.
Swarthoid Pride World Wide!
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Post by mike2 on Jun 10, 2005 4:35:51 GMT -5
I would have agree with you maybe a century ago. But the identification of white has nothing to do with wanting to be accepted by northern Euros. I could care less what those ugly, angular, strawheaded nationalists want. But white has grown to such standing as to be synonymous with that of Caucasian. So to say that someone isn't white is like saying they aren't Caucasoid. That's the real problem with the term. In actual fact, no real race is white. The so-called northern Europeans are ruddy or pinkish most of the time, but hardly ever a white color. So white really just means light to me, and that's exactly what Caucasoids are.
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Post by Wadaad on Jun 10, 2005 4:49:32 GMT -5
I seem to be among the few who has yet to figure out what's so damn good about being white anyway. What's the point of striving to be classified as "white"? To be accepted by insignificant people on insignificant WN boards? I don't know what I would be classified as, white or non-white, but I don't call myself "white" (hey, I guess it depends on who's standing next to me! ;D). If someone wants to label me in some way, label me as an Irano-Afghan of the Caucasian race. But white? White to me are NW Euros. Not as much a racial term as a cultural one that grew out of the colonization era when NW Euros used colours to separate themselves from those they colonized. I have no need to be white. I've managed quite well in my life without that label and I doubt receiving it would make a difference. Swarthoid Pride World Wide! well annunaki you need to get introduced into something i call the racial hierarchy ladder. Just like the corporate ladder, thers alot of squabbling that goes on epecially by the middle wrung. It is similar to job-titles, Lets say Caucasian = health care sector, and transposing the racial hierarchy ladder into this, "north european white" = Senior Neurosurgeon...all the bottom-wrung health care workers, would still like to have the same "MD" on their job title as the Surgeon. Thats even if they never performed surgery in their lives...so those bottom of the ladder health care workers are trying to proove their responsibilities sometimes includes pseudo-surgeries...eg a nurse will say "administrating rectal medications is similar to surgery, so I am a surgeon too"... Basically its all about self-esteem and titles
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Post by MC anunnaki on Jun 10, 2005 5:01:07 GMT -5
Speaking about ladders, it's always those in the middle of the ladder who are most prone to "kick downward and kiss (ass) upward" as we say in Sweden.
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Post by mike2 on Jun 10, 2005 5:04:41 GMT -5
I've identified as white all my life. I'll be damned if some honkey loser is going to tell me I'm not a member of the white race simply because I'm not as ugly and pink-skinned as he is.
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Post by MC anunnaki on Jun 10, 2005 5:08:19 GMT -5
The "whitest" people (colourwise at least), the Nords, are those who care the least about race! Funny itz. I think how you define yourself is also influenced by what people you have around you. I (and others) would probably identify myself as "white" if I were to move to Nigeria. Maybe also in the States where only three races exist. But most times, I simply don't identify with any colour or race or anything. I'm the kind of person who identifies with the people she knows and everyone else can go straight to hell.
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Post by nockwasright on Jun 10, 2005 5:17:54 GMT -5
I seem to be among the few who has yet to figure out what's so damn good about being white anyway. What's the point of striving to be classified as "white"? To be accepted by insignificant people on insignificant WN boards? I don't know what I would be classified as, white or non-white, but I don't call myself "white" (hey, I guess it depends on who's standing next to me! ;D). If someone wants to label me in some way, label me as an Irano-Afghan of the Caucasian race. But white? White to me are NW Euros. Not as much a racial term as a cultural one that grew out of the colonization era when NW Euros used colours to separate themselves from those they colonized. I have no need to be white. I've managed quite well in my life without that label and I doubt receiving it would make a difference. Swarthoid Pride World Wide! well annunaki you need to get introduced into something i call the racial hierarchy ladder. Just like the corporate ladder, thers alot of squabbling that goes on epecially by the middle wrung. It is similar to job-titles, Lets say Caucasian = health care sector, and transposing the racial hierarchy ladder into this, "north european white" = Senior Neurosurgeon...all the bottom-wrung health care workers, would still like to have the same "MD" on their job title as the Surgeon. Thats even if they never performed surgery in their lives...so those bottom of the ladder health care workers are trying to proove their responsibilities sometimes includes pseudo-surgeries...eg a nurse will say "administrating rectal medications is similar to surgery, so I am a surgeon too"... Basically its all about self-esteem and titles Ehehe. Smart comparison. However must be said that in Europe this "white" issue is much less important than in America. @annunaki: I think that, sadly, being perceived as white all in all is an advantage. Unless you are a drummer .
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Post by Wadaad on Jun 10, 2005 5:21:21 GMT -5
The "whitest" people (colourwise at least), the Nords, are those who care the least about race! Funny itz. I think how you define yourself is also influenced by what people you have around you. I (and others) would probably identify myself as "white" if I were to move to Nigeria. Maybe also in the States where only three races exist. But most times, I simply don't identify with any colour or race or anything. I'm the kind of person who identifies with the people she knows and everyone else can go straight to hell. lol anunnaki, you know we think alike? This is some shit I said on RAS: ." Thats why I now shun and look down on fellow Somalis who make fun of west and central africans...all they are doing is playing along this sick game, when this should be eradicated once and for all and people start valuing themselves for the indiviudals and not the race. Those who are hung-up on their racial superiority are such band-wagon fans its ridicilous, its as if they are on a winning team (when they did not contribute anything themselves)
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Post by MC anunnaki on Jun 10, 2005 5:23:33 GMT -5
Word!
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Post by Salvador on Jun 10, 2005 9:59:07 GMT -5
I have a question for the south Europeans. Do you consider Arabs as white or non white?
My guess is that you consider them caucasian, but defenately not white.
That's exactly the same with anglo-germans in the U.S. who consider 'some' southern-europeans as non white.
As for coloured people. They usually consider the Anglo-Germanic type as white. I think they look at it from an economical point of view.
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Post by murphee on Jun 10, 2005 12:00:55 GMT -5
Aw...you guys don't want to look like me.
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Post by hanan on Jun 10, 2005 14:56:06 GMT -5
Aw...you guys don't want to look like me. Hey Murphee, you are a cute hottie. No need to worry
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Post by murphee on Jun 10, 2005 15:27:41 GMT -5
Thanks :-) Hee Hee! I'm turning 50 in a few months but all pics I posted are recent.
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